I am hearing more talking heads discuss A&M and Ohio State and how they should consider resting their starters, much like the NFL.

Greg Olson and Dave Portnoy were discussing it. Dave was all about beating Michigan while Greg made the point that the goal is winning Superbowl's or the Playoffs for college football.

At some point do we see players sit out these games much like the final few games of the NFL?

NFL teams fighting for seeding in the playoffs don't rest their starters.

dabo man said:

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NFL teams fighting for seeding in the playoffs don't rest their starters.

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True, one could argue that the seeding is irrelevant, or impossible to know, as it depends on what a group of adults think and not W-L like in the NFL.

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True, one could argue that the seeding is irrelevant, or impossible to know

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this would be a very terrible argument, as the final seeding is very relevant and it is something you can have a good idea on.

I assure you, the players and coaches for ohio state and our team and Elko very much want to win this weekend.

It's a poorly thought out argument imo. I bellieve Elko's DNA is to try to put the best group on the field possible to get the W every game and I think that's the right approach. You potentially lose your culture if the team doesn't believe the coach is doing everything possible to win games . Beyond that getting a bye is a positive factor towards the ultimate goal of winning the national title and if we lose to Texas we have a very poor shot at a bye.


Same with Oh St vs Michigan

Resting guys that aren't 100% healthy … different thing

LOL, playoff seeding matters. In state recruiting against your rival matters. Dumb statement. End of thread.

TXAGGIES said:

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I am hearing more talking heads discuss A&M and Ohio State and how they should consider resting their starters, much like the NFL.

Greg Olson and Dave Portnoy were discussing it. Dave was all about beating Michigan while Greg made the point that the goal is winning Superbowl's or the Playoffs for college football.

At some point do we see players sit out these games much like the final few games of the NFL?

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Rest their starters?
1. To suggest we throw away the opportunity to beat Texas on their own field is dumb enough but...Let me ask you something.

If we " rest our starters" and they dont play vs Texas.
That means we dont make the SEC Championship game, which is a milestone for our program and again to suggest we throw away that opportunity is dumb. .
The first round of the playoffs are Dec 19-20.
If we lost to Texas we would likely fall out of the top 4.
So that means our starters would go a month without playing in a game.
If we stayed in the top 4 then it would be nearly 6 weeks between games for our starters.

In what word would sitting out a month or 6 weeks prior to playing in the biggest game of the season make any sense?

Ask the 4 teams in last years playoffs how that first round bye and getting to rest starters worked out for them.

If Portnoy is arguing for this, he should just choke on a pepperoni.

First and foremost this conversation is to generate clicks and traffic to their content on various platforms and nothing more. He'll come out in a few weeks and then claim he wasn't necessarily in favor of the idea but just wanted to float the idea alongside the comparison to the NFL.

NFL does not recruit
NFL seeding is based on divisional records and is a clearly laid out path
NFL isn't dependent on alumni and booster donations

This argument would make a fine time to create a non-satirical X handle called "Message Board Dumbasses"

the new playoff's impact on end of the year rivalries...

is providing a consolation prize for the loser of the game

i.e. something else to focus on or look forward to afterwards

It depends on the circumstances.

In a game like ours vs tu, they're playing to try and push us out of a bye and (though I don't think they can get in) to keep their sliver of hope available. I think that is pretty meaningful to both sides.
In a game like Auburn vs Alabama, they (Auburn) are trying to put Bama out of the playoffs. That is way more meaning than a game like this would have had if Bama was really just trying to find out if they were going to get a NY6 game vs not.

Portnoy's entire business model is to say the least intelligent thing possible and see how much money he can make until someone really calls him on it. Works really well when your target audience is young men who don't like to think much.

I'm fine with winning. I'm less fine with losing no matter the excuse…

plant science guy said:

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Portnoy's entire business model is to say the least intelligent thing possible and see how much money he can make until someone really calls him on it. Works really well when your target audience is young men who don't like to think much.

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The whole "Sports Talk" business model is to grab as much money as you can by getting an audience/followers/clicks/etc.

If you have two people on at the same time, I'm convinced they follow a routine of either (1) one person always having the most stupid take while the other opposes him, or (2) they flip a coin to see which side they take and argue it out.

In this case, you are now hearing "more" about resting starters in a conference championship game because it has only recently become even a possibility with the 12 team CFB Championship. In the 2 team or even 4 team model, the loser of a conference championship was almost guaranteed to be out of the national race. Now it is possible to lose and still be in (at least that's what they are telling us).

I can't even imagine a case where a team takes the day off during a conference championship game. Still, with that being a possibility you will have stupid takes on talk shows and people debating it on sites like this. The more interest they drum up, the richer they become.

TXAGGIES said:

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I am hearing more talking heads discuss A&M and Ohio State and how they should consider resting their starters, much like the NFL.

Greg Olson and Dave Portnoy were discussing it. Dave was all about beating Michigan while Greg made the point that the goal is winning Superbowl's or the Playoffs for college football.

At some point do we see players sit out these games much like the final few games of the NFL?

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Talking heads want Texas to win. Hence they want us to not go full strength.

F the talking heads!

No

You play to win at the highest level at all times or it comes back to bite you in the ass.

Pretty sure the coaches get incentives to make the championship game. They aren't gonna quit.

I'm gonna be totally honest guys, I don't really care if we lose. Would be awesome to not get beat up in the SECCG and then get a home playoff game at Kyle.

TXAGGIES said:

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I am hearing more talking heads discuss A&M and Ohio State and how they should consider resting their starters, much like the NFL.

Greg Olson and Dave Portnoy were discussing it. Dave was all about beating Michigan while Greg made the point that the goal is winning Superbowl's or the Playoffs for college football.

At some point do we see players sit out these games much like the final few games of the NFL?

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After A&M went to the Big 12 it seemed as if there were less rivals. Then when A&M went to the SEC there were no rivals. Even though we are now playing tu again that rival doesn't as big an issue. I still hate them!!!! I don't think the play offs are as big a detriment to rivals as musical conferences are!

AozorAg said:

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I'm gonna be totally honest guys, I don't really care if we lose. Would be awesome to not get beat up in the SECCG and then get a home playoff game at Kyle.

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they could drop us low enough to go on the road. Say our schedule was weak and bump us down enough where we don't get the game at Kyle.

I just don't get this concept.

It's tu, BTHOtu in everything.

Living in Columbus, Ohio it's obvious the OSU/MICH game is anything BUT meaningless to Ohio State and the fan base. The look on Ryan Day's face when talking about this game, he is serious about the win.

Portnoy is hoping for some rivalry upsets to give him something to write about. Probably struggles with generating interesting content so he comes up with stupid ideas like this.

Get rid of stupid bowl games hosting the non-Championship game.

Higher seed should matter, regular season games should matter, and neutral site games damage the value of regular season games, and for that matter, conference championship games.

alot of people on here seem to think losing to texas would be good for our program.


Pretty huge indication we're letting the wrong kind of people into A&M.

Someone break into DKR and cut the f***ing horns out of the field!!

And Michigan could get in to the playoffs with a win

If they ever went to something like a 24 or 32 team playoff, then yes I think it would.

With a 12 team playoff, there just isn't much margin for error. Especially since G5 and an "unworthy" conference champion can steal 2 slots. Plus there is the carrot of a bye week if you are in the top 4. No one has a safe spot locked up even today. Right now undefeated, reigning national champion Ohio State can't lose to Michigan and then lose the conference champion without losing the bye.

I think 16 teams is the maximum you can put it to and still keep the stakes alive. Even then, 16 might be on the borderline of diluting some of these games.

Difference between college ball and pros. The college rivalry is ingrained in the fabric of the sport where in pros, it's totally about winning the big prize.

Rivalries are still good for the game. But, the coaches AND the players are more interested in making the Play-Offs.

jeffdjohnson said:

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If they ever went to something like a 24 or 32 team playoff, then yes I think it would.

With a 12 team playoff, there just isn't much margin for error. Especially since G5 and an "unworthy" conference champion can steal 2 slots. Plus there is the carrot of a bye week if you are in the top 4. No one has a safe spot locked up even today. Right now undefeated, reigning national champion Ohio State can't lose to Michigan and then lose the conference champion without losing the bye.

I think 16 teams is the maximum you can put it to and still keep the stakes alive. Even then, 16 might be on the borderline of diluting some of these games.

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The number of teams in the playoffs is irrelevant. People said the twelve team playoff would ruin the regular season and the opposite has been true.

jrgypsum said:

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I just don't get this concept.

It's tu, BTHOtu in everything.

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you don't want our fate to be in the hands of the committee and their eye test.

It hasn't killed rivalries, but imagine it's a 4 team playoff, and us and Ohio st are heading to to play our rivals with ccg and potential playoff berths on the line. The motivation for both teams would be insane. Everything riding on us winning and tu trying their damndest to ruin our season.

As it stands now a loss MIGHT knock us out of a bye, and a win gives them an outside shot at making the field. It hasn't killed rivalries, but I don't think they'll be as heated. And to be fair, with NIL it might not matter. Most of our team hasn't been on campus for 3-4 years hearing about those homos down in Austin anyways.