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knoxtom
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I am pretty sure we do not have a single player on the roster who will be a first round pick. Not only seniors, but no JRs, Soph, or Fish who will go in the first round.

Best bet is probably DJ Hicks but his career so far is a 3rd round guy.

Am I missing anyone? Will Lee is a 2nd or 3rd round guy, Concepcion is a 3rd or 4th rounder, none of the RBs show pro potential, none of the OL are individually good enough.

Weird that this team plays so well together, but individually none are very special. Maybe that means Elko is a pretty dang good coach.

Andrew99
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Howell
Slicer97
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knoxtom said:

I am pretty sure we do not have a single player on the roster who will be a first round pick. Not only seniors, but no JRs, Soph, or Fish who will go in the first round.

Best bet is probably DJ Hicks but his career so far is a 3rd round guy.

Am I missing anyone? Will Lee is a 2nd or 3rd round guy, Concepcion is a 3rd or 4th rounder, none of the RBs show pro potential, none of the OL are individually good enough.

Weird that this team plays so well together, but individually none are very special. Maybe that means Elko is a pretty dang good coach.



Moss will play on Sundays. Maybe not very many Sundays if his history of injuries continues, but he will absolutely get a shot to play on Sundays.
Who?mikejones!
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Howell will be 1st round, but overall, your greater point is correct.

Unlike osu, Indiana or even tech, were doing this without the same talent grades as the other highly ranked teams. Pretty impressive if you ask me.
BboroAg
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Howell probably will be and Will Lee probably should be
AgsGiveUsRoom
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Bisontis has first round potential and Zuhn will definitely play on Sundays.
Logos Stick
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I guess you've never seen the pass rusher named Howell.
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Andrew99 said:

Howell

knoxtom
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I don't think Howell will be a first rounder just because he is a little bit small.

Will Lee is really good but is not pulling first round grades.

There are a ton of NFL guys on the team, (Moss, entire OL, entire DL) but none of them are first rounders.
knoxtom
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Logos Stick said:

I guess you've never seen the pass rusher named Howell.


Before the season started I said Howell was the best player on the entire team. You all laughed at me. I now say he is not going to be a first rounder. He is a little small.
Logos Stick
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knoxtom said:

Logos Stick said:

I guess you've never seen the pass rusher named Howell.


Before the season started I said Howell was the best player on the entire team. You all laughed at me. I now say he is not going to be a first rounder. He is a little small.


Many draft analysts have him late first round.
ATL Aggie
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knoxtom said:

Not only seniors, but no JRs, Soph, or Fish who will go in the first round.




Do you have a crystal ball? How on earth can you say that we dont have any first rounders on the roster? Last year Howell wasnt a 1st rounder, this year he is. To say that our underclassman arent 1st rounders is a stretch. They arent 1st rounders today, but not many underclassman in the country are. We have recruited very well lately and the roster is loaded with talent and depth.

Hambone31
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Could see Bisontis getting into the first round, even though interior line isn't always high
Logos Stick
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knoxtom said:

I don't think Howell will be a first rounder just because he is a little bit small.

Will Lee is really good but is not pulling first round grades.

There are a ton of NFL guys on the team, (Moss, entire OL, entire DL) but none of them are first rounders.


One of the greatest pass rushing ends in NFL history was Charles Haley. He's in the Hall of Fame. Howell weighs as much and is just about as tall.
DE4D
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They slight him over arm length
knoxtom
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Logos Stick said:

knoxtom said:

I don't think Howell will be a first rounder just because he is a little bit small.

Will Lee is really good but is not pulling first round grades.

There are a ton of NFL guys on the team, (Moss, entire OL, entire DL) but none of them are first rounders.


One of the greatest pass rushing ends in NFL history was Charles Haley. He's in the Hall of Fame. Howell weighs as much and is just about as tall.


Charles Haley was 6'5 and weighed 255 with absurdly long arms.

Cassius is 6'2, and weighs 245 (with a 5 pound weight in each pocket) with absurdly short arms


Look man, I love Howell's game, but he isn't a first rounder unless he goes 4.35 at the combine with 35 reps.
JDCAG (NOT Colin)
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That may end up being right. May end up being wrong.

I think it is fair to say we have no "sure fire" 1st rounders. We have some that could play into it or have impressive combines and get there, but none are locks.

Howell is possible, but from what I've heard, his length is a concern in the NFL. He'll still be drafted high and play, but maybe not first round.

Where it's hard to say is with some of the younger guys. If a guy like Craver, or Dez Ricks keeps improving (or becomes a valuable return man in addition to improving on the field) and plays in college another year or two, they could sneak in.
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Slicer97 said:

knoxtom said:

I am pretty sure we do not have a single player on the roster who will be a first round pick. Not only seniors, but no JRs, Soph, or Fish who will go in the first round.

Best bet is probably DJ Hicks but his career so far is a 3rd round guy.

Am I missing anyone? Will Lee is a 2nd or 3rd round guy, Concepcion is a 3rd or 4th rounder, none of the RBs show pro potential, none of the OL are individually good enough.

Weird that this team plays so well together, but individually none are very special. Maybe that means Elko is a pretty dang good coach.



Moss will play on Sundays. Maybe not very many Sundays if his history of injuries continues, but he will absolutely get a shot to play on Sundays.

I hope so but I don't know. I'm not sure he'll have the measurables that the NFL wants. RBs in the NFL are so disposable. Unless he's a generational talent, drafting a RB is a crapshoot. We've had so many good to really good RBs in the last 30 years who've done nothing in the NFL.

Trayveon was one of our best ever and he's hardly had a chance in the NFL.
Logos Stick
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knoxtom said:

Logos Stick said:

knoxtom said:

I don't think Howell will be a first rounder just because he is a little bit small.

Will Lee is really good but is not pulling first round grades.

There are a ton of NFL guys on the team, (Moss, entire OL, entire DL) but none of them are first rounders.


One of the greatest pass rushing ends in NFL history was Charles Haley. He's in the Hall of Fame. Howell weighs as much and is just about as tall.


Charles Haley was 6'5 and weighed 255 with absurdly long arms.

Cassius is 6'2, and weighs 245 (with a 5 pound weight in each pocket) with absurdly short arms


Look man, I love Howell's game, but he isn't a first rounder unless he goes 4.35 at the combine with 35 reps.


Fortunately, you're not an NFL scout. These guys get their info from the NFL:

ESPN (Jordan Reid) projects Howell going in the first round, specifically to the Detroit Lions with pick 29.

CBSSports.com has Howell going with pick 25 in a 2026 mock draft.

SI.com (Joe Cox) says that Howell is "increasingly projected into the late first round."
a.froman
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Honest question does our record translate without high round draft picks because our schedule in SEC terms is relatively weak? I mean if you look at it we didn't have to play the 5 highest ranked teams in the conference not counting us.
Agmaniacmike12
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Howell is very likely a 1st rounder, I'd put it at 25% that KC goes 1st round, but feel confident he goes Day 2 if not.

I would imagine similar to Texas' breakout, that quite a few players that were not really on scout's radars will be drafted on Day 3 on this team, or even sneak into Day 2, especially the OL/DL.
Bill Superman
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Howell
Bisontis
Zuhn
Concepcion

Moss if he didn't get injured.
Slicer97
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NoahAg said:

Trayveon was one of our best ever and he's hardly had a chance in the NFL.

How long have you been watching Aggie football?
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Who?mikejones! said:

Howell will be 1st round, but overall, your greater point is correct.

Unlike osu, Indiana or even tech, were doing this without the same talent grades as the other highly ranked teams. Pretty impressive if you ask me.


Current roster talent composite rankings via 247:

tOSU - 3
A&M - 8
Tech - 29
Indiana - 72
Onionman
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More surprising to me is that we had 3 defensive players drafted this past year in the first 2 rounds.

Yet our defense IMO is better this year than last year. (I think points given up per game roughly the same but yards per game given up much better this year.)
Biting Fixation
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Andrew99 said:

Howell

Howell could probably start for a few NFL teams right now
Who?mikejones!
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Draft ratings.
Onionman
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NoahAg said:

Slicer97 said:

knoxtom said:

I am pretty sure we do not have a single player on the roster who will be a first round pick. Not only seniors, but no JRs, Soph, or Fish who will go in the first round.

Best bet is probably DJ Hicks but his career so far is a 3rd round guy.

Am I missing anyone? Will Lee is a 2nd or 3rd round guy, Concepcion is a 3rd or 4th rounder, none of the RBs show pro potential, none of the OL are individually good enough.

Weird that this team plays so well together, but individually none are very special. Maybe that means Elko is a pretty dang good coach.



Moss will play on Sundays. Maybe not very many Sundays if his history of injuries continues, but he will absolutely get a shot to play on Sundays.

I hope so but I don't know. I'm not sure he'll have the measurables that the NFL wants. RBs in the NFL are so disposable. Unless he's a generational talent, drafting a RB is a crapshoot. We've had so many good to really good RBs in the last 30 years who've done nothing in the NFL.

Trayveon was one of our best ever and he's hardly had a chance in the NFL.

Ever hear of Achane? He sure is having a great NFL career so far. No offense to Trayveon as he was great in college but he is no Achane.
Onionman
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Slicer97 said:

NoahAg said:

Trayveon was one of our best ever and he's hardly had a chance in the NFL.

How long have you been watching Aggie football?

I'm beginning to wonder about NoahAg.

  • He was devasted about losing Noah Thomas. Some say he even changed his screen name due to it.
  • He was not that happy when Elko was hired.
  • And acts like Ags can't put a RB in the NFL. (Meanwhile I see Achane scoring TDs every Sunday.)
Aston04
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knoxtom said:

I don't think Howell will be a first rounder just because he is a little bit small.

Will Lee is really good but is not pulling first round grades.

There are a ton of NFL guys on the team, (Moss, entire OL, entire DL) but none of them are first rounders.

How many sacks does a "small" DL in the SEC have to get to earn a first round grade?

He is a mega blue chip prospect at this point. Teams would be crazy to let 32 picks go by and not say his name.
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Who?mikejones! said:

Howell will be 1st round, but overall, your greater point is correct.

Unlike osu, Indiana or even tech, were doing this without the same talent grades as the other highly ranked teams. Pretty impressive if you ask me.



Wait. What? You think the talent grades are higher at IU than A&M?
Who?mikejones!
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According to PFF, Indiana has more players ranked in the top 100 NFL draft prospects than we do. They have 5. We have 3.

tOsu- 7
Oregon- 6
Bama-6
Iu- 5
Uga-3
Ou- 3
Sips- 3
Tamu- 3
Tech-2
Ole miss- 0


So, yes.
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perhaps more important...

how many draft-eligible players will return for the 2026 season?
agdaddy04
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a.froman said:

Honest question does our record translate without high round draft picks because our schedule in SEC terms is relatively weak? I mean if you look at it we didn't have to play the 5 highest ranked teams in the conference not counting us.

I've seen that stat posted elsewhere, but one of the main differences between the top 5 and the teams we beat, is that we beat them. Meaning that if Mizz or LSU had beaten us, they'd have an equal conference record to Vandy or OU. It's not like there's a 3 or 4 game difference when you're talking the middle of the pack in the SEC.
a.froman
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agdaddy04 said:

a.froman said:

Honest question does our record translate without high round draft picks because our schedule in SEC terms is relatively weak? I mean if you look at it we didn't have to play the 5 highest ranked teams in the conference not counting us.

I've seen that stat posted elsewhere, but one of the main differences between the top 5 and the teams we beat, is that we beat them. Meaning that if Mizz or LSU had beaten us, they'd have an equal conference record to Vandy or OU. It's not like there's a 3 or 4 game difference when you're talking the middle of the pack in the SEC.

The issue with that is that not any of the top 5 SEC besides us lost to any teams we beat. Georgia lost to Bama, Bama lost to Oklahoma, Oklahoma lost to Texas and Ole Miss, Ole Miss lost to Georgia, Vandy lost to Texas and Bama. Even Tennessee hasn't lost to anyone we beat. Texas is the only ranked team that has lost to someone we beat in Florida.

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