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What is LSU "negotiating" with Kelley?

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MarylandAG
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Per the ESPN article they are "negotiating" terms of his buyout (maybe the language is different but it does say "negotiating"), what is the negotiation, surely the terms are stipulated in the contract. Is it just how he will be paid? Or is the amount being discussed?

Asking because we obviously went through the same thing with Fisher and if LSU gets away paying less than the amount owed then we got swindled.
Tex117
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Want a lump sum now, but its smaller. Or all of it, in payments over time.

Today's winner for the General Board Burrito Lottery is:

Tex117
Jbob04
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Supposedly they have some dirt on Kelly and using that to blackmailing him into a smaller buyout. Source is tiger droppings lol
MarylandAG
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Apologies, it says "finalizing" the terms.
Harry_Willie
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Rumor is he had an affair with his relator, and it goes against their conduct clause.
Detmersdislocatedshoulder
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they are trying to figure out how to manipulate the numbers to take money from the school bond that just passed.

priorities
BQ_90
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Probable mitigating the terms on having to seek employment
KatyAggie2000
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My guess is LSU doesn't have that kind of coin in the coffers therefore an installment plan over x years which will be more than a lump sum value today is what's being negotiated.
Leggo My Elko
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He's a jerk and LSU isn't afraid to play in the mud. So who knows what's happening behind closed doors?
Maybe LSU wants to claim "fired for cause" and then is willing to drag it out in court even if it's a losing case.
Captain Awesome
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Harry_Willie said:

Rumor is he had an affair with his relator, and it goes against their conduct clause.

That dude has been a realtor for years.
TyperWoods
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Negotiating which hospital to steal the money from.
Logos Stick
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Way to go Scott Woodward!


Why is this guy still employed?!
infinity ag
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Tex117 said:

Want a lump sum now, but its smaller. Or all of it, in payments over time.


Which would you prefer if you had to decide?
Logos Stick
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A bird in the hand.
rangerdanger
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Harry_Willie said:

Rumor is he had an affair with his relator, and it goes against their conduct clause.


Tin foil hat says that these schools hire honeypots to get stuff like this to happen when things are going south.
TxAg76
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negotiating a "fam-uh-lee" discount
Showstopper
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The contract has a mitigation clause where, if he gets another job, they pay less (per media reports). So there isn't actually a number that is certain, but at the same time, question how motivated people will really be to actually find another job if they don't make any more money unless they get a bigger salary than LSU. So both sides have an incentive to agree to a final number now and just go on their merry way.
Lateralus Ag
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Captain Awesome said:

Harry_Willie said:

Rumor is he had an affair with his relator, and it goes against their conduct clause.

That dude has been a realtor for years.


Criminally underrated post.
sleepybeagle
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rangerdanger said:

Harry_Willie said:

Rumor is he had an affair with his relator, and it goes against their conduct clause.


Tin foil hat says that these schools hire honeypots to get stuff like this to happen when things are going south.

Sure would make it harder to hire a new top notch coach wouldn't it?
sleepybeagle
Lateralus Ag
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Leggo My Elko said:

He's a jerk and LSU isn't afraid to play in the mud. So who knows what's happening behind closed doors?
Maybe LSU wants to claim "fired for cause" and then is willing to drag it out in court even if it's a losing case.


It is interesting to me that "cause" in these football contracts has nothing to do with being a bad football coach.

Schrute Farms
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Per multiple "insiders":

1. Kelly's buyout is tied to future employment. The more he earns, the less he receives.

2. This is a decision happening at the governor's level with several major La stakeholders involved.

3. Kelly could receive a negotiated sum up front and be done with both the employment ties and Baton Rogue.

4. Kelly could fight for his full buyout and go through all the hoops that fight would entail.

In the end, losing a few million may be worth the peace of a full break from Louisiana.
Lateralus Ag
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Here's to hoping Kelly and LSU both get screwed.

Best outcome for a divorce lawyer is when both parties to the suit leave the room pissed off.
waco_aggie05
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Bro, its been 13 minutes....
The Collective
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Hope he got out of the state already
dabo man
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Every month they owe him salary times percentage guaranteed divided by number of months remaining in the contract at the time of firing.

Unless they have some scandal they're going to unleash on him (i.e. blackmail), the terms are already set.

I can't imagine they would choose a lump sum over monthly installments.
Muy
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Harry_Willie said:

Rumor is he had an affair with his relator, and it goes against their conduct clause.


Seems lame. Everyone envisions getting a "tour" of a home with a hot realtor. I'll let it pass.
Gnome Sayin
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Mega Lops
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rangerdanger said:

Harry_Willie said:

Rumor is he had an affair with his relator, and it goes against their conduct clause.


Tin foil hat says that these schools hire honeypots to get stuff like this to happen when things are going south.

Absolutely. He got Epsteined. Hope Kelly nails their tigah asses to the wall and fights this.
Leggo My Elko
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Quote:

It is interesting to me that "cause" in these football contracts has nothing to do with being a bad football coach.

IMO - Something needs to change w/ Universities having some backbone, someone needs to start telling Jimmy Sexton no when it comes to these guaranteed contracts and maybe let one of these big names walk.
The Collective
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Didn't they screw Orgeron out of some $ too?
aggiehawg
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The Collective said:

Didn't they screw Orgeron out of some $ too?

Well, considering Orgeron was screwing anything that moved and posting it to social media, seems to me he had already checked out.
rootube
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Schrute Farms said:

Per multiple "insiders":

1. Kelly's buyout is tied to future employment. The more he earns, the less he receives.

2. This is a decision happening at the governor's level with several major La stakeholders involved.

3. Kelly could receive a negotiated sum up front and be done with both the employment ties and Baton Rogue.

4. Kelly could fight for his full buyout and go through all the hoops that fight would entail.

In the end, losing a few million may be worth the peace of a full break from Louisiana.



I think he would have to lose more than a few million. I bet there is a pretty low ceiling on what LSU could muster in a lump sum considering they are going to have to pay a new coach and find $18-20M to build a new roster. Their only saving grace seems like it's their ability to pay the buyout in monthly chunks instead of a lump sum.
rootube
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aggiehawg said:

The Collective said:

Didn't they screw Orgeron out of some $ too?

Well, considering Orgeron was screwing anything that moved and posting it to social media, seems to me he had already checked out.


By the way Orgeron insisted on his full buyout and got it. Unless LSU can fire BK for cause I don't see why he would take a penny less than he is owed.

I just looked it up. Orgeron's buyout was 18 payments front loaded over four years. So LSU owes Ed his last payment of $426k this year in December, in addition to the BK and new coach money.

Orgeron's wife successfully sued him for $8M of his $16.9M.

LSU's contract with BK runs through 2030. That's a lot of money to fork out every year.
infinity ag
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Logos Stick said:

A bird in the hand.


We said the same with Jimbo and he stuck a d***** up our backsides.
dcg4403
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Has to do with BK wanting to continue to coach moving forward. Maybe they can get that ~$50M down to $30M and let him take any job desired moving forward.

Seems it could get ugly if he takes the contract buyout....and has no job. But then accepts a job at the end of this season.

Think this is the basis of the negotiation so they can part ways cleanly and not continue to be tied together.
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