Against sip would we make it to the championship over them?

t.u. will have 3 conference losses by the time A&M plays them.

Hypothetically if they win out.

It depends on if others finish with one loss and who they lost to and potentially other factors as well

In the event of a tie between teams competing for a place in the Conference championship game, the following procedures will be used in descending order until the tie is broken:

Head-to-head competition among the tied teams
Record versus all common Conference opponents among the tied teams
Record against highest (best) placed common Conference opponent in the Conference standings, and proceeding through the Conference standings among the tied teams
Cumulative Conference winning percentage of all Conference opponents among the tied teams
Capped relative total scoring margin versus all Conference opponents among the tied teams
Random draw of the tied team

https://www.secsports.com/news/2024/08/sec-announces-football-tie-breaking-process

It depends on who we tie with.

Would take one phone call from Archie to get tu in.

https://bball.notnothing.net/sec.php?sport=fb

If we don't win out, our biggest concern seems to be falling behind Bama, Georgia, and Ole Miss. Still several situations where we could get left out of the conference championship game (not the end of the world anymore with the expanded playoff).

There is probably the Texas A&M clause in the SEC by laws that says "in the event of a tie, Texas A&M never gets the tie breaker".

SBISA Victim said:

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Hypothetically if they win out.

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Do you think a team that struggles with Kentucky and Miss State wins at a Georgia?

Gramercy Riffs said:

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SBISA Victim said:

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Hypothetically if they win out.

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Do you think a team that struggles with Kentucky and Miss State wins at a Georgia?

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Or Vandy.

phatbeast said:

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Gramercy Riffs said:

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SBISA Victim said:

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Hypothetically if they win out.

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Do you think a team that struggles with Kentucky and Miss State wins at a Georgia?

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Or Vandy.

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Can they beat arkansas in OT?

If our only loss is to tu we are in.


#1 Bama 8-0
#2 A&M 7-1
#3 Ole Miss 7-1
#4 tu 7-1

We are in because we have the better record vs common opponents in conference

Just at first glance and thinking of possible scenarios, I don't think the tie break rules would favor us.

Gramercy Riffs said:

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SBISA Victim said:

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Hypothetically if they win out.

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Do you think a team that struggles with Kentucky and Miss State wins at a Georgia?

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Honestly I wouldn't doubt it. Feel like God himself is a sip fan considering all the freaking luck that football team has had over the last few years. And what's worse is that they are not a good football team but their record doesn't reflect it. Cannot stand it. I knew Texas was gonna win that game even when they were ducking ass with their lame duck QB and OL.

8-0 with consistent improvement on offense, even down our best running back, and op is still reaching for reasons to *****, moan, and whine. Get this trash off this board.

Running the calculator, we really need to be pulling for another Bama loss at some point.

• Their in-conference SOS places them above us.
• For that matter, we need Ole Miss to lose again for insurance.
• Losing any game in-conference at this point would be bad for us in terms of the SECCG.

All that being said, though, we are likely in the playoffs as a 5-8 seed with only one loss. The scenario where we are 12-0 and locked out of the SECCG lost viability a while back; that could have worked to our advantage in the rare cases where we ended up seeded fourth overall at 12-0 --nice rest period for everyone to heal up.

The one I DON'T like is where we lose, still go to Atlanta and lose again, then have to play a road game. Tough sledding. And that raises a very unsettling possibility: an executive decision gets made to tank the last game so to avoid going to Atlanta in order to get rest prior to a first-round game at Kyle Field. Is the priority to beat Texas and go to Atlanta, or to guarantee a home playoff game after resting everyone?

If tu gets past Vandy & Georgia we can have this discussion

Georgia vs. tu is the game that matters. If Georgia wins out including this game, we basically lose all tiebreaker scenarios.

This whole thing is F'ing STUPID! Go back to divisions with Bama and Auburn in the East and Mizzou in the west, 7-2, protects all rivalries, and cleans up this mess.

Can you imagine if we go 11-1 and don't make the title game because of some random Kentucky, State, FL or SC score / game?!

F'ing ridiculous to have a system where multiple teams can finish with the same record and the champ. game calculations are so overly complicated as too many of those teams don't play each other.

As well, using the link, if it did all play out like that, Bama 1, UGA 2, aTm 3. BUT Bama will have beaten UGA in the reg. season, but we would not have played either team, but the title game is a rematch and we are out as we didn't play either team but have the same record?!?!

It's a total CF of a system.

vander54 said:

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If our only loss is to tu we are in.


#1 Bama 8-0
#2 A&M 7-1
#3 Ole Miss 7-1
#4 tu 7-1

We are in because we have the better record vs common opponents in conference

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Incorrect.

In that scenerio, t.u. must also beat Vanderbilt and Georgia.

If either Georgia or Vanderbilt win out then A&M can not lose a game in order to make it to Atlanta because both team's conference opponent's win percentage is better.

Record vs common opponents won't apply. Even if it did, a loss to Texas would give both Georgia and Vanderbilt the tie-breaker and a loss to Missouri would give Vanderbilt the tie-breaker. The only team both Georgia and Vanderbilt will have lost to would be Alabama which A&M did not play.

To keep it simple, in order for A&M to go to Atlanta IF Alabama, Georgia, and Vanderbilt win out is for A&M to...

1) Win out ---> Georgia will get the 2 spot if they win out and A&M loses 1 game.
2) Lose to t.u. ONLY IF they beat both Georgia AND Vanderbilt.

Remaining SEC schedules:

Alabama - LSU, Oklahoma, @ Auburn <--- 3 wins barring the rivalry aspect with Auburn

Georgia - Florida, @ Mississippi State, Texas <--- 3 wins

Vanderbilt - @ Texas, Auburn, Kentucky, @ Tennessee <--- Will be hard to get 4 wins but it's doable


A&M will hold the tie-breaker vs Ole Miss even if they win out and A&M only loses 1 game.

I believe this to be accurate to the best of my knowledge.

These are the rules

https://www.secsports.com/news/2024/08/sec-announces-football-tie-breaking-process

In the event of a tie between teams competing for a place in the Conference championship game, the following procedures will be used in descending order until the tie is broken:

• Head-to-head competition among the tied teams
• Record versus all common Conference opponents among the tied teams
• Record against highest (best) placed common Conference opponent in the Conference standings, and proceeding through the Conference standings among the tied teams
• Cumulative Conference winning percentage of all Conference opponents among the tied teams
• Capped relative total scoring margin versus all Conference opponents among the tied teams
• Random draw of the tied teams

So it depends on whether we are in a 3 way tie with Georgia, Ole Miss or 4 way tied with Alabama, Georgia, Ole Miss, 5 way tie with Bama, Georgia, Ole Miss, Vandy.

SBISA Victim said:

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Against sip would we make it to the championship over them?

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Why is everyone thinking are going to lose one or two games and what would be the outcome of the season then, Damned defeatists, get a life. If or when that comes about, then think about the outcome of the season. It wears me out seeing, "What if we go 8-4 what happens then, If we go 10-2......... , if 9-3.........." Stop with the what ifs!!!!!

So I ask: Why would we want to go to the SEC Championship game if we loose to t.u.? We will still be in the playoffs and will not get a NC bye.

SBISA Victim said:

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Hypothetically if they win out.

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This isn't going to happen so why even entertain the thought.

If Texas goes 7-1 then Vandy and UGA would lose

We would miss out. Ags, Vandy, Georgia, Bama, and Ole Miss could all 5 be one loss teams. And we won't win the tiebreaker.

We would be 11-1 and either get a bye or a 5 seed and play a G5 school.

They're not beating Vandy and Georgia

It could still happen under divisional play if it is a 7-1 format
a beats b
b beats c
c beats a
And they win every other game
Same thing happens in the other division creating 6 teams at 7-1

The solution is more conference games playing only 8/15 teams in a conference makes stuff like this happen

How about we don't find out and just finish 12-0.

The Florida loss really hurts tu as that is a common opponent for many they would tie with.

No, it would be a 7-2 for 9 games. Moreso any tiebreaker scenarios are easier as they are in division and everyone in the division plays each other so there are H2H results and direct impacts on both conference and division winning %ages. Or it could be a pod system similar to NFL divisions.

The current system is a total and complete CF as you can have multiple teams that do not play each other finish with the same record, and without divisions or pods the tiebreaker scenarios are impacted by results of other teams that the tied teams may have not all played also. It's F'ing stupid.

AggieOO said:

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phatbeast said:

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Gramercy Riffs said:

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SBISA Victim said:

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Hypothetically if they win out.

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Do you think a team that struggles with Kentucky and Miss State wins at a Georgia?

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Or Vandy.

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Can they beat arkansas in OT?

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Game didn't go to overtime Sippy like you did with cowbell.