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#32 highest pay at $7 mil a year. But second highest bonus at $3.8 mil. Only Kenny Dillingham (Arizona State) has a higher bonus potential at over $8 mil.

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#32 highest pay at $7 mil a year. But second highest bonus at $3.8 mil.

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I like it. Keep it this way until he's won a playoff game (two seasons)

If he makes the playoffs he will have much better offers than what we are paying him. Likely from a couple of blue bloods.

he has a lot of incentives built into his contract.

So if we make the playoff, it's a year added to his contract? Interesting.

He'll be paid among the best once those incentives kick in.

Bill Superman said:

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He'll be paid among the best once those incentives kick in.

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And someone else will just offer those as guarantees to pry him away.

TheDecadeSapling said:

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So if we make the playoff, it's a year added to his contract? Interesting.

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making the playoffs likely pays for that extra year of salary and then some for the school.

We haven't let that stop us yet lol

I love the incentives, but I wish we could go further with them. How about minimum wage until he hits 6 wins, then around 1.5 million per win after that, plus the CFP and other incentives? The idea of a coach making that much money off a losing season makes me gag.

When you say minimum wage, you mean $7.25/hr? Just clarifying

Right, I don't think there's any rule stipulating a base pay at the SEC or NCAA level, but I sure don't want to run afoul of labor laws ;-)

I mean, I could be convinced to bump it to 100k base, just so we don't have to track a time sheet or anything. Point is, I want him to be very disappointed with a losing season, and very happy with a big time winning season.

As someone else mentioned, i don't think we'll have a problem giving Elko and staff raises in the base IF we end up with a special season. The buyout and termination terms are what need to be managed.

AtomicActuator said:

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Right, I don't think there's any rule stipulating a base pay at the SEC or NCAA level, but I sure don't want to run afoul of labor laws ;-)

I mean, I could be convinced to bump it to 100k base, just so we don't have to track a time sheet or anything. Point is, I want him to be very disappointed with a losing season, and very happy with a big time winning season.

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Only a message board idiot would sign that contract, good luck getting an actual coach to sign it.

Love this contract structure. We should have always structured them this way (assuming leverage). Any winner would appreciate having a chance to rack up the $$ along with the W's.

Id do the job for half of what he's charging. This team is good. With me it could be the best.

Oh I hear you - it's a fantasy. Point being I hope we can at least keep the increases in the base to a minimum and focus on incentives, even if the total pay ends up higher in a good year.

The other key there is that your buyout would be reduced if he's a bust.

I still believe the last guy lost all drive to compete because he had such a big guaranteed payday, and he had a really good reason to focus on his family. And he got to ride off into the sunset on the program's dime.

The problem is that when it comes to in demand coaches there are always more buyers than sellers. Coaches aren't paid for wins, they are paid to keep from leaving.

Perhaps the only way is to lock down a good prospect with no leverage yet on a long term, low base, high incentive contract and then, if they perform, they stay for a long time, or have to buy themselves out for big money, and if they don't, then you buy them out for small money.

But that would likely get seen as predatory and be a bad look. Oh well.

Teslag said:

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Bill Superman said:

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He'll be paid among the best once those incentives kick in.

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And someone else will just offer those as guarantees to pry him away.

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Who will that be? If he does good enough to be hired away the list is very short. And he won't necessarily view that opportunity as being any better than what he has here.

lol now other teams are coming for Elko id wait to see how Nov plays out. lulz

Teslag said:

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The problem is that when it comes to in demand coaches there are always more buyers than sellers. Coaches aren't paid for wins, they are paid to keep from leaving.

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We've heard all this **** before, and from you.

Its amazing how quickly coaching salaries have increased. Towards the end of the Sumlin era I think he was making 5 million and was in the top 5 of coaches pay.

said back when this is the way to go and we dont want anyone who won't bet on himself.

Some no-nothings said no decent ciach would go for that.

in the end, it's not MY $; i just hope that cigars have FOOTBALL sense, and Elko hire looked right from day 1.

Stoops was a joke! would these jokers actually have approved that!?!

When other schools start trying to lure Elko to their school A&M decision makers need to remember that the A&M job is a great job, tons of money, great facilities, great recruiting. We don't need to go into these situations scared.

Of course we should work to keep him, but don't make stupid contracts. A&M can always get another top level coach. Yes you will miss sometimes but we have the resources to get another great leader. Don't be scared!

True, but after the last guy got a $77.5 million lottery payout from us chumps, I wouldn't be surprised if coaches will feel they can push their luck to get theirs.

Bunk Moreland said:

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Teslag said:

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Bill Superman said:

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He'll be paid among the best once those incentives kick in.

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And someone else will just offer those as guarantees to pry him away.

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Who will that be? If he does good enough to be hired away the list is very short. And he won't necessarily view that opportunity as being any better than what he has here.

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Penn State

Back to his roots, with a school and a fanbase that would back him tremendously well.
And currently with a head coach they'd love to find a way to get rid of.

historytexas said:

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When other schools start trying to lure Elko to their school A&M decision makers need to remember that the A&M job is a great job, tons of money, great facilities, great recruiting. We don't need to go into these situations scared.

Of course we should work to keep him, but don't make stupid contracts. A&M can always get another top level coach. Yes you will miss sometimes but we have the resources to get another great leader. Don't be scared!

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We've been mediocre for 100 years. Who are all these great leaders you're talking about?

AtomicActuator said:

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I love the incentives, but I wish we could go further with them. How about minimum wage until he hits 6 wins, then around 1.5 million per win after that, plus the CFP and other incentives? The idea of a coach making that much money off a losing season makes me gag.

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Are we willing to pay a coach $50 million if they win the natty? What if they win it 3 years in a row? Are you willing to pay 5X more for your game tickets? Are you willing to pay $130 for a chicken wrap?

Coaches aren't going to agree to an incentive-laden contract unless they expect to earn more overall. When you can get $8 million for 0-8 wins a year, there has to be a big incentive to risk guaranteed money in pursuit or larger returns.

We spend way too much time worrying about managing personnel.

We paid one over $77 million to NOT win a natty, so heck yeah. Let's offer a $100 million bounty for the coach who brings us our first title of the century.

Bunk Moreland said:

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Teslag said:

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Bill Superman said:

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He'll be paid among the best once those incentives kick in.

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And someone else will just offer those as guarantees to pry him away.

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Who will that be? If he does good enough to be hired away the list is very short. And he won't necessarily view that opportunity as being any better than what he has here.

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It doesn't need to even be a list. It just needs to be one team willing to break the bank on who they feel is the best option.

Jugstore Cowboy said:

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Teslag said:

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The problem is that when it comes to in demand coaches there are always more buyers than sellers. Coaches aren't paid for wins, they are paid to keep from leaving.

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We've heard all this **** before, and from you.

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And it's still true. Every business on earth pays the minimum amount to retain talent. You don't pay anyone their "worth", you pay them what the market dictates.

TxAg76 said:

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Bunk Moreland said:

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Teslag said:

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Bill Superman said:

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He'll be paid among the best once those incentives kick in.

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And someone else will just offer those as guarantees to pry him away.

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Who will that be? If he does good enough to be hired away the list is very short. And he won't necessarily view that opportunity as being any better than what he has here.

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Penn State

Back to his roots, with a school and a fanbase that would back him tremendously well.
And currently with a head coach they'd love to find a way to get rid of.

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Hia roots? He has exactly zero ties to Penn St. Nothing in the NY/NJ area where he's from compares to what A&M offers.

Also, Happy Valley has MAJOR recruiting challenges due to its remote location. All the logistics are harder to get recruits and challenges there vs college station, even though we aren't a major hub.

Teslag said:

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Bunk Moreland said:

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Teslag said:

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Bill Superman said:

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He'll be paid among the best once those incentives kick in.

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And someone else will just offer those as guarantees to pry him away.

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Who will that be? If he does good enough to be hired away the list is very short. And he won't necessarily view that opportunity as being any better than what he has here.

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It doesn't need to even be a list. It just needs to be one team willing to break the bank on who they feel is the best option.

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CFB jobs have never been more about resource availability than the current era. Again, what program is going to offer him something so ridiculously higher than he's making now for him to uproot his family once again?

And if the perfect program did make that offer, that would mean he did something beyond special here so we'd be willing to pay him to stay.