Steve Sarkisian's tenure at Texas and Jimbo Fisher's at Texas A&M aren't as different as you might think through 60 games (which includes Fisher's 5-7 season in 2022). pic.twitter.com/EbI9isEkyu

— Robert Behrens (@rcb05) October 6, 2025

The Top 10 wins shocked me. I don't seem to recall all of Jimbo's - but seems ridiculous that Sark has made the play-offs twice with only two of them.

mjhhawk said:

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The Top 10 wins shocked me. I don't seem to recall all of Jimbo's - but seems ridiculous that Sark has made the play-offs twice with only two of them.

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Jimbo had a much more difficult schedule every year than Sark has had yet at tu.

mjhhawk said:

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Steve Sarkisian's tenure at Texas and Jimbo Fisher's at Texas A&M aren't as different as you might think through 60 games (which includes Fisher's 5-7 season in 2022). pic.twitter.com/EbI9isEkyu

— Robert Behrens (@rcb05) October 6, 2025

The Top 10 wins shocked me. I don't seem to recall all of Jimbo's - but seems ridiculous that Sark has made the play-offs twice with only two of them.

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How is it ridiculous that they've only beaten two quality teams? They literally have the easiest SEC schedule in the history of the SEC. This doesn't all just happen by accident.

Sark's Record (First 4 seasons):

• 2021 (B12): 5-7
• 2022 (B12): 8-5
• 2023 (B12): 12-2
• 2024 (SEC): 13-3

Jimbo's Record (First 4 seasons):

• 2018 (SEC): 9-4
• 2019 (SEC): 8-5
• 2020 (SEC): 9-1
• 2021 (SEC): 8-4

Outside of this, Sark actually went into the playoffs twice for a cheaper salary.

I dunno what's the joke here

mjhhawk said:

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Steve Sarkisian's tenure at Texas and Jimbo Fisher's at Texas A&M aren't as different as you might think through 60 games (which includes Fisher's 5-7 season in 2022). pic.twitter.com/EbI9isEkyu

— Robert Behrens (@rcb05) October 6, 2025

The Top 10 wins shocked me. I don't seem to recall all of Jimbo's - but seems ridiculous that Sark has made the play-offs twice with only two of them.

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Had to look the top 10 up:
#7 LSU -2018
#4 Florida -2020
#1 Alabama -2021
#10 Arkansas -2022
#5 LSU -2022

I saw that post, and my first thought was "Why would I think their tenures are different?"

as we discussed in the offseason...

the last 2 years, Sark and the horns did a great job of beating bad teams (4-8/5-7), average teams (6-6/7-5), and above average teams (8-4/9-3)

but they were 1-4 against the elite teams they played like Georgia, Ohio State, Washington, and Alabama

PyriteAg said:

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Sark's Record (First 4 seasons):

• 2021 (B12): 5-7
• 2022 (B12): 8-5
• 2023 (B12): 12-2
• 2024 (SEC): 13-3

Jimbo's Record (First 4 seasons):

• 2018 (SEC): 9-4
• 2019 (SEC): 8-5
• 2020 (SEC): 9-1
• 2021 (SEC): 8-4

Outside of this, Sark actually went into the playoffs twice for a cheaper salary.

I dunno what's the joke here

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There is no "joke". It's where you compare one fired coach to another coach that isn't on the hot-seat. Sark easily has another season. These comparisons (in the op) always overlook the trajectory. Starting off crap but being elite recently is way better than the opposite and these graphics purposely ignore that.

and their "big win" last season at Michigan...

the Wolverines finished 8-5

UM was an above average team last year -- not elite

It'd also be interesting to compare NIL spend.

You have to also highlight the difference in how the 2 programs were treated by third party decision makers, including their conferences, the CFP committee, media, and, of course, the refs.

I'd never defend Sark "after dark" and I sure won't defend Jimbo "one trick pony" Fisher. Anyone who hires Steve Addazio to run their OL in the first place is not someone who will lead us to the elite. Anyone who keeps Steve Addazio [for a second season after he's known bad] here is a genuine PoS in the classical sense (i.e. one who abuses prevailing social conventions in a way that does vastly more harm to others than it benefits them).

I hate that school with a burning passion, but comparing what Sark has accomplished at Texas to what Jimbo did here is ridiculous. It's not close.

Sark is tu's James Franklin

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Sark has accomplished at Texas to what Jimbo did here is ridiculous. It's not close.

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For real. The inflated record Sark has his first few years feasting on Big XII garbage is ridiculous when looking at the SEC meatgrinder which broke Jimbo.

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PyriteAg said:

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Sark's Record (First 4 seasons):

• 2021 (B12): 5-7
• 2022 (B12): 8-5
• 2023 (B12): 12-2
• 2024 (SEC): 13-3

Jimbo's Record (First 4 seasons):

• 2018 (SEC): 9-4
• 2019 (SEC): 8-5
• 2020 (SEC): 9-1
• 2021 (SEC): 8-4

Outside of this, Sark actually went into the playoffs twice for a cheaper salary.

I dunno what's the joke here

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There is no "joke". It's where you compare one fired coach to another coach that isn't on the hot-seat. Sark easily has another season. These comparisons (in the op) always overlook the trajectory. Starting off crap but being elite recently is way better than the opposite and these graphics purposely ignore that.

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You don't seem to get it. Despite the two playoff appearances, the sips have not been elite. This shows they have really 1 good win in his 5 years there so far. He's getting criticized because they are 3-3 in their last 6 games and people are realizing that maybe a weak schedule was a smoke screen.

Kind of the same as all the people that call Sark an elite coach, but in reality if you look at his history he's been very mediocre.

Was watching barstool this morning and they were comparing sark with franklin. I think they said sark was 5-18 against top 10 teams (or something like that). That was surprising

i think we need to see how this season plays out. texas goes 6-6 and all of a sudden tbis comparison brings on a life of its own.

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mjhhawk said:

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The Top 10 wins shocked me. I don't seem to recall all of Jimbo's - but seems ridiculous that Sark has made the play-offs twice with only two of them.

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Jimbo had a much more difficult schedule every year than Sark has had yet at tu.

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Was it Jimbo's second year that we played three #1 teams (Clemson, Bama, LSU)?

That year, it was really hard to peg just how good the team was because the schedule was either Top 10 team or absolute garbage team and we beat all the garbage but lost to all the top ones.

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Ugly said:

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mjhhawk said:

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The Top 10 wins shocked me. I don't seem to recall all of Jimbo's - but seems ridiculous that Sark has made the play-offs twice with only two of them.

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Jimbo had a much more difficult schedule every year than Sark has had yet at tu.

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Was it Jimbo's second year that we played three #1 teams (Clemson, Bama, LSU)?

That year, it was really hard to peg just how good the team was because the schedule was either Top 10 team or absolute garbage team and we beat all the garbage but lost to all the top ones.

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Yes, it was Jimbo's second year in 2019, when we played Clemson, Alabama, Georgia, and LSU, and 3 of them on the road. The only disappointing loss was a 28-20 home loss to Auburn in a game that was not as close as the final score. Our best regular season win was a 49-30 home win over 6-7 (3-5 SEC) Mississippi State. Other 3 other SEC wins were over 2-10 (0-8 SEC) Arkansas, 4-8 (2-6 SEC) Ole Miss, and 4-8 (3-5 SEC) South Carolina.

"The Top 10 wins shocked me. I don't seem to recall all of Jimbo's - but seems ridiculous that Sark has made the play-offs twice with only two of them."

Well, they were gifted a win their last year in the Big12 with bogus refs against the Cougars in Houston.

Then they show up to the SEC and we're gifted the easiest SEC schedule anyone has ever seen.

Loses to kansas:

Sark 1
Jimbo 0

It wasn't until 2022 that folks were really getting frustrated with Fisher and anyone was truly discussing his seat temperature.

I think a lot of people get caught up in that buyout number and forget all of the history behind it. He peaked in 2020 during a 1-loss all SEC play Covid season and a dominating Orange bowl after being snubbed for ND in a 4 team Playoff Berth. That was when his contract was extended. It was between then and 2021 when he seemingly "lost his fastball" so to speak.

But as others have said, tu and Coach Sark have had a much easier path to the playoffs in the BigXII and their soft as socks schedule last year.

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i think we need to see how this season plays out. texas goes 6-6 and all of a sudden tbis comparison brings on a life of its own.

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Nah, pile on early and pile on often.

1939 said:

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Mr President Elect said:

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PyriteAg said:

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Sark's Record (First 4 seasons):

• 2021 (B12): 5-7
• 2022 (B12): 8-5
• 2023 (B12): 12-2
• 2024 (SEC): 13-3

Jimbo's Record (First 4 seasons):

• 2018 (SEC): 9-4
• 2019 (SEC): 8-5
• 2020 (SEC): 9-1
• 2021 (SEC): 8-4

Outside of this, Sark actually went into the playoffs twice for a cheaper salary.

I dunno what's the joke here

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There is no "joke". It's where you compare one fired coach to another coach that isn't on the hot-seat. Sark easily has another season. These comparisons (in the op) always overlook the trajectory. Starting off crap but being elite recently is way better than the opposite and these graphics purposely ignore that.

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You don't seem to get it. Despite the two playoff appearances, the sips have not been elite. This shows they have really 1 good win in his 5 years there so far. He's getting criticized because they are 3-3 in their last 6 games and people are realizing that maybe a weak schedule was a smoke screen.

Kind of the same as all the people that call Sark an elite coach, but in reality if you look at his history he's been very mediocre.

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Also, don't forget that a lot of those wins were against backup quarterbacks.

Steve Sarkisian's Record (First 4 seasons):

• 2021: 5-7 (3-6 Big 12)
• 2022: 8-5 (6-3 Big 12)
• 2023: 12-2 (8-1 Big 12)
• 2024: 13-3 (7-1 SEC),

Jimbo' Fishers Record (First 4 seasons):

• 2018: 9-4 (5-3 SEC)
• 2019: 8-5 (4-4 SEC)
• 2020: 9-1 (8-1 SEC)
• 2021: 8-4 (4-4 SEC); withdrew from Gator Bowl due to Covid-19

Sarkisian started a disappointing 5-7 (3-6 Big 12) in his first year, including an embarrassing 57-56 overtime home loss to 2-10 (1-8 Big 12) Kansas. Then, he went 8-5 (6-3 Big 12) in his second year for a 3-game improvement from his first year. Sarkisian has led his team to consecutive conference championship game appearances, 2 CFP appearances, 2 playoff wins over the last two years. He had won 11 consecutive road games between 11/5/2022 and 11/302024.

In contrast, Jimbo started strong and was 7-2 (4-2 SEC) through his first 9 games of 2021 before losing road games at Ole Miss and LSU. He ended his tenure with a 9-game road losing streak, including 8 consecutive SEC road games that stretched from 11/13/21 to 11/4/2023. Of course, interim head coach Elijah Robinson lost to LSU that sent us to our 10th consecutive road loss.

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mjhhawk said:

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Steve Sarkisian's tenure at Texas and Jimbo Fisher's at Texas A&M aren't as different as you might think through 60 games (which includes Fisher's 5-7 season in 2022). pic.twitter.com/EbI9isEkyu

— Robert Behrens (@rcb05) October 6, 2025

The Top 10 wins shocked me. I don't seem to recall all of Jimbo's - but seems ridiculous that Sark has made the play-offs twice with only two of them.

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How is it ridiculous that they've only beaten two quality teams? They literally have the easiest SEC schedule in the history of the SEC. This doesn't all just happen by accident.

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Its funny that the SEC gave them UK, vandy, and miss st assuming theyd all be cupcakes for 2 years. They will probably lose to vandy and state this year lol

Mr President Elect said:

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PyriteAg said:

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Sark's Record (First 4 seasons):

• 2021 (B12): 5-7
• 2022 (B12): 8-5
• 2023 (B12): 12-2
• 2024 (SEC): 13-3

Jimbo's Record (First 4 seasons):

• 2018 (SEC): 9-4
• 2019 (SEC): 8-5
• 2020 (SEC): 9-1
• 2021 (SEC): 8-4

Outside of this, Sark actually went into the playoffs twice for a cheaper salary.

I dunno what's the joke here

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There is no "joke". It's where you compare one fired coach to another coach that isn't on the hot-seat. Sark easily has another season. These comparisons (in the op) always overlook the trajectory. Starting off crap but being elite recently is way better than the opposite and these graphics purposely ignore that.

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Elite? Stay on subject please.

1939 said:

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Mr President Elect said:

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PyriteAg said:

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Sark's Record (First 4 seasons):

• 2021 (B12): 5-7
• 2022 (B12): 8-5
• 2023 (B12): 12-2
• 2024 (SEC): 13-3

Jimbo's Record (First 4 seasons):

• 2018 (SEC): 9-4
• 2019 (SEC): 8-5
• 2020 (SEC): 9-1
• 2021 (SEC): 8-4

Outside of this, Sark actually went into the playoffs twice for a cheaper salary.

I dunno what's the joke here

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There is no "joke". It's where you compare one fired coach to another coach that isn't on the hot-seat. Sark easily has another season. These comparisons (in the op) always overlook the trajectory. Starting off crap but being elite recently is way better than the opposite and these graphics purposely ignore that.

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You don't seem to get it. Despite the two playoff appearances, the sips have not been elite. This shows they have really 1 good win in his 5 years there so far. He's getting criticized because they are 3-3 in their last 6 games and people are realizing that maybe a weak schedule was a smoke screen.

Kind of the same as all the people that call Sark an elite coach, but in reality if you look at his history he's been very mediocre.

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I think he's still clinging onto that natty trophy and heisman they thought they were handed back in August.

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He had won 11 consecutive road games between 11/5/2022 and 11/302024.

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They had Big 12 schedule in 2023 and the toughest game on the road they played last year in SEC was @Vandy and @TAMU.

2018 End of the Year AP Rankings for A&M Opponents:

1 - Clemson (2) - H - L
2 - Alabama (1) - A - L
6 - LSU (7) - H - W
12 - Kentucky (13) - H - W

16 - Texas A&M (9-4)

RV28 - Mississippi State - A - L
RV32 - Auburn - A - L
RV39 - NC State - N - W

2019 End of the Year AP Rankings for A&M Opponents:

1 - LSU (2) - A - L
2 - Clemson (1) - A - L
4 - Georgia (4) - A - L
8 - Alabama (1) - H - L
14 - Auburn (8) - H - L

RV26 - Texas A&M (8-5)

NR - Oklahoma State (25) - N - W

1939 said:

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Mr President Elect said:

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PyriteAg said:

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Sark's Record (First 4 seasons):

• 2021 (B12): 5-7
• 2022 (B12): 8-5
• 2023 (B12): 12-2
• 2024 (SEC): 13-3

Jimbo's Record (First 4 seasons):

• 2018 (SEC): 9-4
• 2019 (SEC): 8-5
• 2020 (SEC): 9-1
• 2021 (SEC): 8-4

Outside of this, Sark actually went into the playoffs twice for a cheaper salary.

I dunno what's the joke here

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There is no "joke". It's where you compare one fired coach to another coach that isn't on the hot-seat. Sark easily has another season. These comparisons (in the op) always overlook the trajectory. Starting off crap but being elite recently is way better than the opposite and these graphics purposely ignore that.

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You don't seem to get it. Despite the two playoff appearances, the sips have not been elite. This shows they have really 1 good win in his 5 years there so far. He's getting criticized because they are 3-3 in their last 6 games and people are realizing that maybe a weak schedule was a smoke screen.

Kind of the same as all the people that call Sark an elite coach, but in reality if you look at his history he's been very mediocre.

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I get it, and I don't think Sark is elite. However, those graphics are always crap. It's okay to admit they have had a couple of pretty good seasons coming into this year (which is what i meant by elite) even though they got really lucky last year by beating a vastly overrated michigan team to start and then having about as easy of an SEC schedule as you could get. There are much better ways to portray a coach sucks or is overrated than by just comparing w/l records over a span. Now, the w/l against top 10 while also flawed, is much more telling imo.

2020 End of the Year AP Rankings for A&M Opponents:

1 - Alabama (2) - A - L

4 - Texas A&M - 9-1

13 - Florida (4) - H - W
18 - North Carolina (13) - N - W

*** There were only 4 AP ranked SEC teams on the final poll during the 2020 COVID year. ***

Sark is the answer the sips needed.

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I get it, and I don't think Sark is elite. However, those graphics are always crap. It's okay to admit they have had a couple of pretty good seasons coming into this year (which is what i meant by elite) even though they got really lucky last year by beating a vastly overrated michigan team to start and then having about as easy of an SEC schedule as you could get. There are much better ways to portray a coach sucks or is overrated than by just comparing w/l records over a span. Now, the w/l against top 10 while also flawed, is much more telling imo.

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The tweet makes no mention if Sark, Jimbo, or both suck or are good. It's pointing out that have a similar record over the same time period.

Now, IF one believes Jimbo sucked, then it's logical to believe Sark also sucked to a similar degree since they have a similar record over an identical time period AND Jimbo unequivocally had a more difficult schedule.

And that logic should be used in reverse...

IF one believes Sark did NOT suck during that time period then one should also believe Jimbo did not suck.

Are there better ways to show this relation? Maybe, but win/loss records are the easist statistics to compare.