Why?

We were always in the market for 2 CB's, Kiffin ruined the original one

We weren't in the market for a S after until after USC

Agvet12 said:

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Why?

We were always in the market for 2 CB's, Kiffin ruined the original one

We weren't in the market for a S after until after USC

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Because of who we have and our issues with safeties. Also safeties weren't all the sudden an issue after USC

vander54 said:

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Agvet12 said:

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Why?

We were always in the market for 2 CB's, Kiffin ruined the original one

We weren't in the market for a S after until after USC

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Because of who we have and our issues with safeties. Also safeties weren't all the sudden an issue after USC

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Right, people point at the corners as the issue in the Southern Cal game, but the reality is the lack of that third safety (star safety) is what caused all our structural weaknesses on defense all year.

They either believe they already have that guy on the roster (would be a good if they believed that) or they don't think they need that guy (that worries the hell out of me). If they don't go get a safety I hope the former is what they think and not the latter.

Shaw has bounced a little:

May 11, 2023: Enrollment - Jordan Shaw enrolls at Indiana Hoosiers
December 11, 2023: Transfer - Jordan Shaw commits to Arizona Wildcats
January 21, 2024: Transfer - Jordan Shaw commits to Washington Huskies

Can't believe that they would think they have that guy currently on the roster. Who? Myles Davis, the guy that didn't play a snap against USC or play a meaningful snap all year??

Vander - any update on Christian Harrison, the Star lb/nb from Tennessee?

vander54 said:

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Agvet12 said:

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Why?

We were always in the market for 2 CB's, Kiffin ruined the original one

We weren't in the market for a S after until after USC

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Because of who we have and our issues with safeties. Also safeties weren't all the sudden an issue after USC

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We weren't in the market for a S until after USC game

With BJ Mayes and J Hill both gone and Chappell coming off of a season ending injury. We need experience at nickel. This is the necessary move

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vander54 said:

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Agvet12 said:

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Why?

We were always in the market for 2 CB's, Kiffin ruined the original one

We weren't in the market for a S after until after USC

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Because of who we have and our issues with safeties. Also safeties weren't all the sudden an issue after USC

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We weren't in the market for a S until after USC game

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Which makes no sense. Safety play was not good this season.

soleta27 said:

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With BJ Mayes and J Hill both gone and Chappell coming off of a season ending injury. We need experience at nickel. This is the necessary move

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He's a RS Fish, not the most experienced but a good nickel add

Hubert J. Farnsworth said:

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Agvet12 said:

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vander54 said:

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Agvet12 said:

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Why?

We were always in the market for 2 CB's, Kiffin ruined the original one

We weren't in the market for a S after until after USC

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Because of who we have and our issues with safeties. Also safeties weren't all the sudden an issue after USC

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We weren't in the market for a S until after USC game

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Which makes no sense. Safety play was not good this season.

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That way I've heard it was Bryce was correctable up until the USC game and even then we might not need to add one with the depth we have there (will be spring portal if we do)

I think Elko is going to take a hands on approach, and Kerr / Anderson get better or pushed out by younger guys.

btglow87 said:

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vander54 said:

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Agvet12 said:

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Why?

We were always in the market for 2 CB's, Kiffin ruined the original one

We weren't in the market for a S after until after USC

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Because of who we have and our issues with safeties. Also safeties weren't all the sudden an issue after USC

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Right, people point at the corners as the issue in the Southern Cal game, but the reality is the lack of that third safety (star safety) is what caused all our structural weaknesses on defense all year.

They either believe they already have that guy on the roster (would be a good if they believed that) or they don't think they need that guy (that worries the hell out of me). If they don't go get a safety I hope the former is what they think and not the latter.

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Or option 3, they're still looking for that guy in the portal.

Sounds like it will be a WR and a DL to close out this early portal. Maybe 2 DL

Bill Superman said:

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btglow87 said:

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vander54 said:

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Agvet12 said:

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Why?

We were always in the market for 2 CB's, Kiffin ruined the original one

We weren't in the market for a S after until after USC

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Because of who we have and our issues with safeties. Also safeties weren't all the sudden an issue after USC

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Right, people point at the corners as the issue in the Southern Cal game, but the reality is the lack of that third safety (star safety) is what caused all our structural weaknesses on defense all year.

They either believe they already have that guy on the roster (would be a good if they believed that) or they don't think they need that guy (that worries the hell out of me). If they don't go get a safety I hope the former is what they think and not the latter.

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Or option 3, they're still looking for that guy in the portal.

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I hope they are, because even if they think they have "a" guy on the roster they need reliable depth at that position so not to end up in a situation like this year…which was being stuck in a 4-2-5 with a true nickel w/ a weak Eagle front and everyone knows it.

Post more, please.

We appreciate your insights.

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Sounds like it will be a WR and a DL to close out this early portal. Maybe 2 DL

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Yeah but did we know they were looking for another DB? I wouldn't be that surprised considering it's an obvious need.

I hope he understands the nuances of zone coverage because there seems to be a deficit in understanding that type of defense in this program.

Yes but I thought we were going after a safety

It's not that simple you upgrade were it will have the biggest impact. Not just upgrade to upgrade.

btglow87 said:

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vander54 said:

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Agvet12 said:

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Why?

We were always in the market for 2 CB's, Kiffin ruined the original one

We weren't in the market for a S after until after USC

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Because of who we have and our issues with safeties. Also safeties weren't all the sudden an issue after USC

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Right, people point at the corners as the issue in the Southern Cal game, but the reality is the lack of that third safety (star safety) is what caused all our structural weaknesses on defense all year.

They either believe they already have that guy on the roster (would be a good if they believed that) or they don't think they need that guy (that worries the hell out of me). If they don't go get a safety I hope the former is what they think and not the latter.

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I didn't realize Julian Humphrey was 6'0" and 190 lbs. What is your opinion of him at Star?

Well obviously, but what I'm saying is if the players are there, we should try to upgrade at every position group because who we have now aren't elite and won't get the job done, aside from the RB room…

For example our offensive line, not one of those juniors or seniors are getting drafted, why not go after other elite players? Our LB play was awful, why aren't we going after a LB? We're gonna roll out the same guys next season, then wonder why we can't win big games.

Ohio State had Henderson, they went out and got Judkins, they replaced their 11 win QB, and look at them now. They replaced starters on defense with better players. Notre Dame replaced some defensive starters with portal additions. Penn State had a solid d-line, yet they added to it. Texas will keep taking elite players, even though they are already stacked. We need to have the mindset that what we have on our roster won't win anything, nearly every position group should be replaceable.

Zuhn and Bisontis will almost definitely be drafted next year unless Bisontis comes back.

Reed Admas has a shot if he shows improvement next year but as of right now he'd be a very late draft pick to UDFA.

Also.when you have a decimated DL and horrible secondary they take massive priority over LB.

https://www.nflmockdraftdatabase.com/players/2025/trey-zuhn-iii

If the draft was 12 rounds maybe Zuhn would be drafted!

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https://www.nflmockdraftdatabase.com/players/2025/trey-zuhn-iii

If the draft was 12 rounds maybe Zuhn would be drafted!

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Most projections have him as 4-6 but he's cominng back

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Zuhn and Bisontis will almost definitely be drafted next year unless Bisontis comes back.

Reed Admas has a shot if he shows improvement next year but as of right now he'd be a very late draft pick to UDFA.

Also.when you have a decimated DL and horrible secondary they take massive priority over LB.

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We need help at LB, but there's some pups on the roster that could surprise some folks next year.
We didn't see him much this year, needs more Moffitt time, but the kid that wore #45 has a little something to him

TxAg76 said:

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vander54 said:

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Zuhn and Bisontis will almost definitely be drafted next year unless Bisontis comes back.

Reed Admas has a shot if he shows improvement next year but as of right now he'd be a very late draft pick to UDFA.

Also.when you have a decimated DL and horrible secondary they take massive priority over LB.

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We need help at LB, but there's some pups on the roster that could surprise some folks next year.
We didn't see him much this year, needs more Moffitt time, but the kid that wore #45 has a little something to him

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I agree on LB. Play wasn't great and yes we have some young players that showed some promise. I'm concerned woth CB play outside Lee but we've added some help there. Safety still concerns me but we must land at least 1 or 2 DT

vander54 said:

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TxAg76 said:

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vander54 said:

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Zuhn and Bisontis will almost definitely be drafted next year unless Bisontis comes back.

Reed Admas has a shot if he shows improvement next year but as of right now he'd be a very late draft pick to UDFA.

Also.when you have a decimated DL and horrible secondary they take massive priority over LB.

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We need help at LB, but there's some pups on the roster that could surprise some folks next year.
We didn't see him much this year, needs more Moffitt time, but the kid that wore #45 has a little something to him

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I agree on LB. Play wasn't great and yes we have some young players that showed some promise. I'm concerned woth CB play outside Lee but we've added some help there. Safety still concerns me but we must land at least 1 or 2 DT

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100% agree.
I was just commenting that LB on the whole might not be in as bad of shape as it appears on the surface.

btglow87 said:

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vander54 said:

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Agvet12 said:

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Why?

We were always in the market for 2 CB's, Kiffin ruined the original one

We weren't in the market for a S after until after USC

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Because of who we have and our issues with safeties. Also safeties weren't all the sudden an issue after USC

---

Right, people point at the corners as the issue in the Southern Cal game, but the reality is the lack of that third safety (star safety) is what caused all our structural weaknesses on defense all year.

They either believe they already have that guy on the roster (would be a good if they believed that) or they don't think they need that guy (that worries the hell out of me). If they don't go get a safety I hope the former is what they think and not the latter.

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Not sure why you are talking about 3rd safety, we had 0 good safeties

Yep. We definitely have numbers there

vander54 said:

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btglow87 said:

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vander54 said:

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Agvet12 said:

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Why?

We were always in the market for 2 CB's, Kiffin ruined the original one

We weren't in the market for a S after until after USC

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Because of who we have and our issues with safeties. Also safeties weren't all the sudden an issue after USC

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Right, people point at the corners as the issue in the Southern Cal game, but the reality is the lack of that third safety (star safety) is what caused all our structural weaknesses on defense all year.

They either believe they already have that guy on the roster (would be a good if they believed that) or they don't think they need that guy (that worries the hell out of me). If they don't go get a safety I hope the former is what they think and not the latter.

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I didn't realize Julian Humphrey was 6'0" and 190 lbs. What is your opinion of him at Star?

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We got to find someone to be that guy or we are going to have the same problems and issues that we had this year. He is a little on the smaller side but its not like Tyreek is a big kid either. I hope they get it sorted out this spring.

PatAg said:

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btglow87 said:

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vander54 said:

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Agvet12 said:

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Why?

We were always in the market for 2 CB's, Kiffin ruined the original one

We weren't in the market for a S after until after USC

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Because of who we have and our issues with safeties. Also safeties weren't all the sudden an issue after USC

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Right, people point at the corners as the issue in the Southern Cal game, but the reality is the lack of that third safety (star safety) is what caused all our structural weaknesses on defense all year.

They either believe they already have that guy on the roster (would be a good if they believed that) or they don't think they need that guy (that worries the hell out of me). If they don't go get a safety I hope the former is what they think and not the latter.

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Not sure why you are talking about 3rd safety, we had 0 good safeties

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I am talking about a "Star" safety the extra Safety who is the hybrid LB/Safety. The reason the others didn't look good either was because we were playing a true nickel with a 4-2 box. A lot of the stresses of the defense got reassigned to the other two safety positions. But I get your point Pat.

btglow87 said:

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vander54 said:

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btglow87 said:

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vander54 said:

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Agvet12 said:

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Why?

We were always in the market for 2 CB's, Kiffin ruined the original one

We weren't in the market for a S after until after USC

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Because of who we have and our issues with safeties. Also safeties weren't all the sudden an issue after USC

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Right, people point at the corners as the issue in the Southern Cal game, but the reality is the lack of that third safety (star safety) is what caused all our structural weaknesses on defense all year.

They either believe they already have that guy on the roster (would be a good if they believed that) or they don't think they need that guy (that worries the hell out of me). If they don't go get a safety I hope the former is what they think and not the latter.

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I didn't realize Julian Humphrey was 6'0" and 190 lbs. What is your opinion of him at Star?

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We got to find someone to be that guy or we are going to have the same problems and issues that we had this year. He is a little on the smaller side but its not like Tyreek is a big kid either. I hope they get it sorted out this spring.

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I wouldn't mind seeing Myles Davis get a shot. He was listed at 6'2" 200lbs as a true Freshmen. Im sure he could be close to 210 or more next year.

vander54 said:

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btglow87 said:

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vander54 said:

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btglow87 said:

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vander54 said:

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Agvet12 said:

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Why?

We were always in the market for 2 CB's, Kiffin ruined the original one

We weren't in the market for a S after until after USC

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Because of who we have and our issues with safeties. Also safeties weren't all the sudden an issue after USC

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Right, people point at the corners as the issue in the Southern Cal game, but the reality is the lack of that third safety (star safety) is what caused all our structural weaknesses on defense all year.

They either believe they already have that guy on the roster (would be a good if they believed that) or they don't think they need that guy (that worries the hell out of me). If they don't go get a safety I hope the former is what they think and not the latter.

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I didn't realize Julian Humphrey was 6'0" and 190 lbs. What is your opinion of him at Star?

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We got to find someone to be that guy or we are going to have the same problems and issues that we had this year. He is a little on the smaller side but its not like Tyreek is a big kid either. I hope they get it sorted out this spring.

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I wouldn't mind seeing Myles Davis get a shot. He was listed at 6'2" 200lbs as a true Freshmen. Im sure he could be close to 210 or more next year.

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Watching his high school film and the little bit of play he got this year, he would be the guy I would pick out of a line up as the one who has characteristics needed for the position.