Using last years 4 team format, the final 4 would have very likely been Georgia, Oregon, Arizona State and Notre Dame. Champs of the SEC, Big 10, Big 12 and 1 loss independent. No way the committee would have taken a 2 loss conference 2nd or 3rd place team over the 2 loss champ of the Big 12.

So did 5 other teams.

No way? It would have been this way:

E: "We can't punish Texas for a 2nd loss in SECCG when their only other loss was the SEC champ Georgia. Notre Dame has a horrific loss to Northern Illinois on their resume, which we can't look past. Texas is in."

JPK89 said:

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astrosaggie1212 said:

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The committee left undefeated FSU out last year.

I have zero doubt Texas would have still gotten in as the 4 seed this year, along with OSU.

It would have been

Oregon
Georgia
OSU
Texas

You're kidding yourself if you think Texas would have been left out.

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No way ND would have been left out.

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Texas vs Notre Dame getting left out of the 4 spot would have been awesome to watch

astrosaggie1212 said:

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No way? It would have been this way:

E: "We can't punish Texas for a 2nd loss in SECCG when their only other loss was the SEC champ Georgia. Notre Dame has a horrific loss to Northern Illinois on their resume, which we can't look past. Texas is in."

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The only school the media loves more than the sips is ND.

Another way to spin your take is to say sips had two chances to beat Georgia and couldn't.

astrosaggie1212 said:

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The committee left undefeated FSU out last year.

I have zero doubt Texas would have still gotten in as the 4 seed this year, along with OSU.

It would have been

Oregon
Georgia
OSU
Texas

You're kidding yourself if you think Texas would have been left out.

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No way would OSU have gotten in. They were legitimately 4th place in the Big 10. And their loss to Michigan at home would have knocked them out.

Don't get me wrong, I thought OSU was the most dangerous team to get in the playoffs (and so far they have proven it). Just like I think Ole Miss would have been the most dangerous SEC team if they were let in.

They published their rankings alongside the seed in the bracket. You don't have to guess who the 4 teams would have been, and no ASU would not have been close (ranked 12th)

ORE
UGA
TEX
PSU

Under the old system I suspect one loss ND would have supplanted PSU. There wouldn't be much consternation about leaving a CCG loser out because it picked up a second loss there.

LincolnBorglum79 said:

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Using last years 4 team format, the final 4 would have very likely been Georgia, Oregon, Arizona State and Notre Dame. Champs of the SEC, Big 10, Big 12 and 1 loss independent. No way the committee would have taken a 2 loss conference 2nd or 3rd place team over the 2 loss champ of the Big 12.

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Look out, you're making a great argument for the expanded playoff

LincolnBorglum79 said:

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Using last years 4 team format, the final 4 would have very likely been Georgia, Oregon, Arizona State and Notre Dame. Champs of the SEC, Big 10, Big 12 and 1 loss independent. No way the committee would have taken a 2 loss conference 2nd or 3rd place team over the 2 loss champ of the Big 12.

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ASU would have never made it in any other format.

ASU as well. And as far as I'm concerned they are the team that actually made the final four.

The extended playoffs is great. Just too bad corruption for all to see controlled the ending of one game.

FYI, if the powers that be helped Texas beat ASU fur everyone to see. Do you really thing they would not just place Texas in a 4 team playoff over ASU?


If it ware a 4 team playoff and everything unfolded in the regular season the same. These 2 would have been a lock.

Oregon and Georgia.

Who knows after that but I doubt ACC or Big 12 get a team. Boise State, Nope.

Notre Dame Maybe

Then SEC/Big 10 fight for the last spot.

My guess though is if it were 4 team playoff, it would not have unfolded the same. The Big 10 would have made sure Ohio State beats Michigan.

So they most likely win Big 10 and one loss Oregon and one loss Notre Dame get in the playoff.

1 Ohio State Vs 4 Notre Dame
2 Georgia Vs 3 Oregon

ahpetty33 said:

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They published their rankings alongside the seed in the bracket. You don't have to guess who the 4 teams would have been, and no ASU would not have been close (ranked 12th)

ORE
UGA
TEX
PSU

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Guaranteed the rankings are different if it was a 4 team playoff. Zero chance the committee makes it 2 SEC vs. 2 BIG. And zero chance they make UGA and sips play for a third time in the first round. The rankings were made knowing that ND, OSU, PSU and sips were getting in. Shows you the committee is corrupt and manipulates the rankings to fit their agenda.

Oregon, UGA and ND are locks. Final spot is tu, OSU or PSU.

tu - media obsession but already lost 2x to UGA
OSU - media obsession and beat PSU but bad loss to MI who tu beat
PSU - OSU beat them but no bad losses

When the Fightin' Texas Aggies win all of their football games, our team will be in, regardless of the format.

Okay….well the best team is Ohio State. So the new format will end up crowing the best team as champion.

rollingwoodaggie said:

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Okay….well the best team is Ohio State. So the new format will end up crowing the best team as champion.

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Is that edible crow?

Sure.

LincolnBorglum79 said:

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Using last years 4 team format, the final 4 would have very likely been Georgia, Oregon, Arizona State and Notre Dame. Champs of the SEC, Big 10, Big 12 and 1 loss independent. No way the committee would have taken a 2 loss conference 2nd or 3rd place team over the 2 loss champ of the Big 12.

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Autobids are terrible but the other four P5 (at the time)conferences demanded them…

LincolnBorglum79 said:

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Using last years 4 team format, the final 4 would have very likely been Georgia, Oregon, Arizona State and Notre Dame. Champs of the SEC, Big 10, Big 12 and 1 loss independent. No way the committee would have taken a 2 loss conference 2nd or 3rd place team over the 2 loss champ of the Big 12.

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Sour grapes.

What could have happened did.

In the years past, many on this forum said UT was in the Big Twelve; and, if UT was in the SEC, they would have a terrible record. However,

• UT joined the SEC;
• they have a very good 2024 record;
• they are in the post season playoffs with 2024 format;
• they are in the semi-finals; and,
• A&M is 8:4, lost to UT the first year UT is in the SEC

Regarding TAMU's move to the SEC

• We never should have left the Big Twelve
• We should not have left the Big Twelve the way we did
• A&M lost to UT the last time we played UT in the Big Twelve (and, incidentally the Southwest Conference)
• We made money by leaving the Big Twelve
• It wasn't worth the money we made

JPK89 said:

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astrosaggie1212 said:

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The committee left undefeated FSU out last year.

I have zero doubt Texas would have still gotten in as the 4 seed this year, along with OSU.

It would have been

Oregon
Georgia
OSU
Texas

You're kidding yourself if you think Texas would have been left out.

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No way ND would have been left out.

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ND doesn't have the clout they used to have. Been fading for a while.

I'll keep beating this dead horse. Sips get preferred treatment.

Georgia, only team ever to drop from #1 to #5 in conference championship loss.

FSU, only undefeated conference champion team never to make CFP.

TCU made the CFP in 2022 after losing the BIG 12 title game to Kansas Stae.

Georgia beat the breaks off of both of them scoring 65-7 and 63-3.

Georgia was robbed of a 3 peat, to make room for you know who.

WC94 said:

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I'll keep beating this dead horse. Sips get preferred treatment.

Georgia, only team ever to drop from #1 to #5 in conference championship loss.

FSU, only undefeated conference champion team never to make CFP.

TCU made the CFP in 2022 after losing the BIG 12 title game to Kansas Stae.

Georgia beat the breaks off of both of them scoring 65-7 and 63-3.

Georgia was robbed of a 3 peat, to make room for you know who.

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And also keep them out to help Michigan win it all. The Big 10 has just as much power as the SEC and they did not want Georgia in the playoff.

Just blame Kirby for choking against his mentor again in the SEC champ game. Georgie wins that one, you have 4 undefeated and Texas did not beat the SEC champs. They just beat a 2 loss Bama team that almost lost at a bad Auburn team.

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Using last years 4 team format, the final 4 would have very likely been Georgia, Oregon, Arizona State and Notre Dame.

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Wouid love to hear what kind of shrooms you were on when you reached this conclusion.

ahpetty33 said:

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They published their rankings alongside the seed in the bracket. You don't have to guess who the 4 teams would have been, and no ASU would not have been close (ranked 12th)

ORE
UGA
TEX
PSU

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This. There's no need to guess who the 4 would have been under the old format.
The committee did their final rankings. Then they did the playoff seeding according to the parameters set forth.

That assumes they wouid not have tweeked the rankings if it was only 4 teams.

I don't think they wouid have done rematches of the conference championship games.

Gotta love threads like this. People arguing over absolute certainties of events that never exist.

It doesn't matter how you slice & dice the "playoffs", it's just not very exciting to watch second chance losers with multiple conference losses play for a NC, no matter how good a team they have become, unless you are a die-hard fan of that team.

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It doesn't matter how you slice & dice the "playoffs", it's just not very exciting to watch second chance losers with multiple conference losses play for a NC, no matter how good a team they have become, unless you are a die-hard fan of that team.

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In every other major sport they have playoffs where 'second chance losers' as you say win all the time. The best team in the regular season often loses in the playoff format. Seems to work for all the other major sports and doesn't seem to hurt excitement.

Isn't this why we don't have the old format?

The only school to play in two straight CFP semifinals:

The University of Texas. pic.twitter.com/yKxpOpUQKr

— We Are The Joneses (@UT4x_champs) January 4, 2025

So Georgia won back to back championships and yet tu is the only one to be in semis in back to back years????

Did they mean only team to lose in semis in back to back years???