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Divining Rod
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Sorry to re-post my work from another thread where some neutral visitors were coming to Aggieland, but I wanted to make sure all of us Ags understand some of the long history of this rivalry. This is NOT just something that started twelve years ago in the SEC.


It is a true border rivalry!

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OBE4ISU said:
..... we're coming for the game this weekend against LSU (yes, I know it's probably a tertiary rivalry at best, but we didn't have many dates....

Okay, let me set you straight. THIS IS NOT A "TERTIARY RIVALRY".

LSU/A&M is a great rivalry, and one that to many Ags is now superior to and preferred to the rivalry with that other school.

This rivalry started in 1889 and Saturday will be the 63rd meeting.

LSU leads the rivalry 35-24-3... BUT:

A great majority of the games were played in Baton Rouge before the 80s:

1889 -1956 Record 11-10-2:

3-0-1 @ Kyle Field
5-7-0 @ Baton Rouge
3-3-1 Neutral



From 1960 to 1975, the teams played every year for 16 years, and only in Baton Rouge

4-11-1 @ Baton Rouge:

THEN, after A&M's program kicked into gear following scholarship limits and the admission of black athletes,
A&M won the last two meeetings in '74 and '75. After a 39-8 pasting in Baton Rouge in '75, LSU cancelled the home series even though they had a contract to continue it. BAD BLOOD!!


6-4 @Baton Rouge/Kyle Field 1986-1995:

When LSU became a hot program in the mid '80's, they asked A&M to resume the series, which we did on a home-and-home basis. LSU won 4 of the first 5. Then A&M under RC Slocum won 5 straight from 1991-1995. Once again, LSU cancelled the contract and refused to pay the agreed upon penalty for doing so. MORE BAD BLOOD!!!


2011 COTTON BOWL LSU 41-24

2012 SEC ERA Begins

3-9 @ Baton Rouge/Kyle Field [0-6 thru 2017, 3-3 since then]

The 2012 game with Manziel probably kept A&M from a national championship. Despite FIVE (5) turnovers by A&M, two missed FGs, and a missed XP, A&M lost 24-19.

A&M proceeded to lose 5 more in a row, although the first 4 of those wins were vacated by LSU.

In 2018, A&M finally overcame LSU, winning the highest scoring game in NCAA history 74-72 seven OTs.

Since then, the teams have alternated victories on their home fields, although truth be told, A&M was hosed by the SEC refs in Baton Rouge in 2021 when it stripped LSU of the ball in the last two minutes (no timeouts for LSU) and the refs completely missed it, then claimed unbelievably that his forward motion was stopped and the play wasnt even reviewed. He was clearly running forward and the whistle didnt blow til 3 seconds after A&M was HOLDING THE BALL. MORE AND MORE BAD BLOOD!

So much for the "tertiary rivalry"!
Randy Rhodes
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Bring the hat
AGinHI
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I once heard, but have been unable to confirm, that the LSU/A&M matchup was one of the longest running OOC rivalries at ~50 or so.
Divining Rod
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Florida/ FL State started in the 50s, but they have played 67. I know Notre Dame/USC began in 1926 and is around 90 games. I'm sure Notre Dame has some other long running.

But as far as AGE (1889), A&M may well be the longest running non-continuous (on again/off again) rivalry in the country. We played alot at the turn of the last century through the 1920s. Most all of the 40s and some of the 50s. Then the 16 yr stretch and 10 yr stretch mentioned above in the 60s through mid-90s.
BarnacleBill
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Outside of the old SWC schools we have played them far more than anyone else.

Excellent recap. I knew about them wussing out of series in the 90s, but didn't know they did the same thing in the 70s. Figures...
Divining Rod
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Yes, that's why it was so damn aggravating. It was like Charlie Brown trying to kick the football.

What? AGAIN???!!!!!
Emilio Fantastico
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Yep. Every time we started beating them, they would cancel the series.
AGinHI
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Divining Rod said:

Florida/ FL State started in the 50s, but they have played 67. I know Notre Dame/USC began in 1926 and is around 90 games. I'm sure Notre Dame has some other long running.

But as far as AGE (1889), A&M may well be the longest running non-continuous (on again/off again) rivalry in the country. We played alot at the turn of the last century through the 1920s. Most all of the 40s and some of the 50s. Then the 16 yr stretch and 10 yr stretch mentioned above in the 60s through mid-90s.
Interesting.

Maybe someone here will delve into this and find out.
Divining Rod
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It sucked that Jackie Sherrill always had a slow start to the season and finished 0-3 against them in '86-'88. Here's the rankings at gametime:

A&M (7) vs. LSU (14) 7-35
A&M (15) vs. LSU (6) 3-17
A&M (11) vs. LSU (17) 0-27

Then RC took over, and in his first year unranked A&M took down #7 LSU 28-16. The first play of his head coaching career at A&M was a kickoff return for a TD!
Aggie Dad 26
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I hope we beat them so bad all their trailer house tires go flat
carl spacklers hat
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Was as the '87 game. F--k LSU
People think I'm an idiot or something, because all I do is cut lawns for a living.
Iraq2xVeteran
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The home team has won each of the last 7 games in the series. Let's make it 8 in a row, including 4 straight wins at Kyle Field.
czar_iv
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I like our chances since all of the talking heads on Youtube are picking LSU
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NE PA Ag
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Excellent post! Thanks for the effort to educate people on this game.

First, one minor point on renewing the series in the 80s, I recall Jackie had as big of an influence on getting it started again as the idea that LSU asked for it.

Finally, there are at least a couple of original SEC teams that have played LSU around the same number of times or less than we have. Florida I know without looking it up is close, like maybe 2 or 3 more games than us.
Divining Rod
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Thanks. Yes, I think people were talking about NON-CONFERENCE rivalries. There are i'm sure dozens of in-conference rivalries that would have been played more than this one.



This is cross-border, non-con history. Of course, ALL of Notre Dame's oppents are non-conference. It played Navry from 1927-2019, making it the longest uninterrupted intersectional rivalry of all time.
EVA3
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Good post. Also, LSU fans are trashy. The only thing that makes it better is that it's not really personal. They're trashy to everybody. It's just who they are.
Davidtheag
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Divining Rod said:


Sorry to re-post my work from another thread where some neutral visitors were coming to Aggieland, but I wanted to make sure all of us Ags understand some of the long history of this rivalry. This is NOT just something that started twelve years ago in the SEC.


It is a true border rivalry!

Quote:

OBE4ISU said:
..... we're coming for the game this weekend against LSU (yes, I know it's probably a tertiary rivalry at best, but we didn't have many dates....

Okay, let me set you straight. THIS IS NOT A "TERTIARY RIVALRY".

LSU/A&M is a great rivalry, and one that to many Ags is now superior to and preferred to the rivalry with that other school.

This rivalry started in 1889 and Saturday will be the 63rd meeting.

LSU leads the rivalry 35-24-3... BUT:

A great majority of the games were played in Baton Rouge before the 80s:

1889 -1956 Record 11-10-2:

3-0-1 @ Kyle Field
5-7-0 @ Baton Rouge
3-3-1 Neutral



From 1960 to 1975, the teams played every year for 16 years, and only in Baton Rouge

4-11-1 @ Baton Rouge:

THEN, after A&M's program kicked into gear following scholarship limits and the admission of black athletes,
A&M won the last two meeetings in '74 and '75. After a 39-8 pasting in Baton Rouge in '75, LSU cancelled the home series even though they had a contract to continue it. BAD BLOOD!!


6-4 @Baton Rouge/Kyle Field 1986-1995:

When LSU became a hot program in the mid '80's, they asked A&M to resume the series, which we did on a home-and-home basis. LSU won 4 of the first 5. Then A&M under RC Slocum won 5 straight from 1991-1995. Once again, LSU cancelled the contract and refused to pay the agreed upon penalty for doing so. MORE BAD BLOOD!!!


2011 COTTON BOWL LSU 41-24

2012 SEC ERA Begins

3-9 @ Baton Rouge/Kyle Field [0-6 thru 2017, 3-3 since then]

The 2012 game with Manziel probably kept A&M from a national championship. Despite FIVE (5) turnovers by A&M, two missed FGs, and a missed XP, A&M lost 24-19.

A&M proceeded to lose 5 more in a row, although the first 4 of those wins were vacated by LSU.

In 2018, A&M finally overcame LSU, winning the highest scoring game in NCAA history 74-72 seven OTs.

Since then, the teams have alternated victories on their home fields, although truth be told, A&M was hosed by the SEC refs in Baton Rouge in 2021 when it stripped LSU of the ball in the last two minutes (no timeouts for LSU) and the refs completely missed it, then claimed unbelievably that his forward motion was stopped and the play wasnt even reviewed. He was clearly running forward and the whistle didnt blow til 3 seconds after A&M was HOLDING THE BALL. MORE AND MORE BAD BLOOD!

So much for the "tertiary rivalry"!
Wait a minute, wasn't A&M first football season in 1894 against Galveston Ball High School?
Not trolling or anything, just stating a fact. Do you mean 1899 as the first meeting with LSU?
Fanatic15...Drs2B!
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BarnacleBill said:

Outside of the old SWC schools we have played them far more than anyone else.

Excellent recap. I knew about them wussing out of series in the 90s, but didn't know they did the same thing in the 70s. Figures...


Let's BTHO LSU so severely that we cause them to try to "wuss out" a third time - with LSU, following the beat down from the Aggies, petitioning the SEC to allow them to get out of having to play Texas A&M in the future.
5thGenAg
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Does anyone know why we played so many years in a row in BR? Were we so down at that time that we just accepted it?
BarnacleBill
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That was a low point for our program and I think that frankly we just needed the money.
WorkTogetherAgs
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TexasAGGIEinAR
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His hat looks like the one Curious George's handler wears.
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it is wild that A&M is 13-5-1 vs. LSU at Kyle Field

the decade of the 60's is basically LSU's lead in the series. The Tigers went 9-0-1 vs. the Ags
aggiejim70
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Any Old Ags or Old Tigers on here remember that wonderful game in 1970. Rocky Self to Hugh McElroy to take the lead followed by Dave Elmendorf's interception to seal the deal.
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lol! He doesn't know the difference between thoughts and feelings…. Cute!
achooooo
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We did get hosed by the refs in 2021 but in 2018 Mond's knee was down before he threw the late TD to tie the game; the rest is history.
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Divining Rod said:

It sucked that Jackie Sherrill always had a slow start to the season and finished 0-3 against them in '86-'88. Here's the rankings at gametime:

A&M (7) vs. LSU (14) 7-35
A&M (15) vs. LSU (6) 3-17
A&M (11) vs. LSU (17) 0-27

Then RC took over, and in his first year unranked A&M took down #7 LSU 28-16. The first play of his head coaching career at A&M was a kickoff return for a TD!


Lectric Leeland
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WorkTogetherAgs said:


lagoag
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No it wasn't, he's knee was down before he throw the interception that would have ended the game in regulation.

Take your troll comments back to your sip board.
Tex117
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Why are you trying to convince us of this?

LSU is a worthless excuse of a school for anything other than sports. Bunch of mouth-breathing re-tards who are doomed to a life of mediocrity (at best), addiction, and quiet desperation.

And they smell like corndogs, for effsakes.

Only saving grace is the food is pretty outstanding.
achooooo
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In reply to Lagoag; you are correct. I had it totally backwards. Hey, at least I remembered that it was a pass play. No troll here, my friend, just a poor memory.
SunrayAg
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1987. First game as a student at A&M. I was there when their drunk trashy fans started a riot and tried to tear up the field.

I saw a pile of them jump on an Aggie and tried to pull one off. He took a swing at me and I decked him.

Next thing I knew I was flying through the air… because a huge cop grabbed me and tossed me away. I tried to go back in and he pointed a finger in my face and said "go home". So I did. Over 300 drunk corn dog munchers spent the night as guests of Brazos county that night.

I hate lsu worse than anyone. I wish I could go back and land more than 1 punch.

Beat the hell outta those corn dog munching swamp trash bass turds.
Jomama75
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I do! First Aggie game I ever listened to while in high school. The Aggie War Hymn was heard loud and clear. I was hooked and didn't look back. Got a chance to talk with Dave Elmendorf about the game in the early 90s. What a great gentleman and Ag!
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A&M improves to 14-5-1 vs. LSU at Kyle Field
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