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Abolish Using Rankings in Any Official Capacity

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class12of
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The final AP poll and related movement from results just proves that using a media poll, or any poll for that matter, in an official capacity is plain asinine.

It is a biased systems that only benefits teams that get the most clicks.

Also, all season we were told that head-to-head matters, but somehow Georgia ended up in front of Bama.

Other examples:

No. 9 Mizzou beat No. 7 Ohio State and moved up 1 spot.
No. 22 Oklahoma St beat Unranked Texas A&M and moved up 6 spots.
No. 3 Texas trailed the entire game and lost and didn't move.
No. 6 Georgia wins by 60 pts vs No. 4 and only moves up 2 spots.


End media control/influence on the sport and create a system like the pros. Win and you are rewarded. Lose and you aren't.
TXAG 05
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College football was great because it wasn't like the pros.
greg.w.h
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class12of said:

The final AP poll and related movement from results just proves that using a media poll, or any poll for that matter, in an official capacity is plain asinine.

It is a biased systems that only benefits teams that get the most clicks.

Also, all season we were told that head-to-head matters, but somehow Georgia ended up in front of Bama.

Other examples:

No. 9 Mizzou beat No. 7 Ohio State and moved up 1 spot.
No. 22 Oklahoma St beat Unranked Texas A&M and moved up 6 spots.
No. 3 Texas trailed the entire game and lost and didn't move.
No. 6 Georgia wins by 60 pts vs No. 4 and only moves up 2 spots.


End media control/influence on the sport and create a system like the pros. Win and you are rewarded. Lose and you aren't.

The only official duty based on the championship game under the BCS was the Coaches agreeing to vote the winner the national champion. The game speaks for itself (including whatever flaws you perceive are endemic.)


Polls were created to cause disagreement and the resulting discussion. Congratulations on playing the rube!?!
Trustmyvoice
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Grow up. If we were winning and in the top rankings you wouldn't be crying.
ElephantRider
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TXAG 05 said:

College football was great because it wasn't like the pros.

Was.
William K. Klingaman
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TXAG 05 said:

College football was great because it wasn't like the pros.



Pros are better because there are zero humans voting.
William K. Klingaman
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Trustmyvoice said:

Grow up. If we were winning and in the top rankings you wouldn't be crying.


Anyone you disagee with is crying and needs to grow up, huh?
Aggie Apotheosis
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greg.w.h said:





Polls were created to cause disagreement and the resulting discussion. Congratulations on playing the rube!?!


EXACTLY! Without the polls we would have less to argue over for the next 8 months.
htxag09
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William K. Klingaman said:

TXAG 05 said:

College football was great because it wasn't like the pros.



Pros are better because there are zero humans voting.
And yet people still cry about the pros playoff system.

XYZ team in ABC division is terrible! They're barely .500 in a **** division, it's not fair they are hosting a playoff game!!!!
Trustmyvoice
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For the most part yes.


The amount of whining on here is getting out of control. Hell I miss the days when all we talked about was BAS and the Fish Pond Manager
Showstopper
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What official capacity are you under the impression the AP poll is used, OP? Printed in newspapers (or newspaper websites)? I've got great news for you: the AP poll is not used in any official capacity. Congratulations! You've already won!
greg.w.h
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Trustmyvoice said:

For the most part yes.


The amount of whining on here is getting out of control. Hell I miss the days when all we talked about was BAS and the Fish Pond Manager
All whine and no money to fix.
Guy12
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The pros are more-or-less a level playing field. College is definitely not a level playing field. I don't see how you can take subjectivity out of it and still factor in strength of schedule, different conference strengths, and the like.
GrapevineAg
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Guy12 said:

The pros are more-or-less a level playing field. College is definitely not a level playing field. I don't see how you can take subjectivity out of it and still factor in strength of schedule, different conference strengths, and the like.
Multiple tiers with relegation/promotion. Take the subjectivity out. Until then, it's just a beauty/popularity contest.
njohn87
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What's the official capacity the media polls are being used for, OP?
ATM9000
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class12of said:

The final AP poll and related movement from results just proves that using a media poll, or any poll for that matter, in an official capacity is plain asinine.

It is a biased systems that only benefits teams that get the most clicks.

Also, all season we were told that head-to-head matters, but somehow Georgia ended up in front of Bama.

Other examples:

No. 9 Mizzou beat No. 7 Ohio State and moved up 1 spot.
No. 22 Oklahoma St beat Unranked Texas A&M and moved up 6 spots.
No. 3 Texas trailed the entire game and lost and didn't move.
No. 6 Georgia wins by 60 pts vs No. 4 and only moves up 2 spots.


End media control/influence on the sport and create a system like the pros. Win and you are rewarded. Lose and you aren't.


Technically… your 4 examples actually follow your last 2 sentence statement of how you think it should all work.
Shoefly!
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Trustmyvoice said:

For the most part yes.


The amount of whining on here is getting out of control. Hell I miss the days when all we talked about was BAS and the Fish Pond Manager

Getting?
Ags2013
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Does anyone at all care about any ranking but #1 at the end of the season?
rootube
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Your first two are totally valid but horn had the ball in the red zone to win the game and beat the other final four team head to head. Where are you going to put them? And despite curb stomping FSU UGA lost to Bama just a few weeks ago, where are you going to put them?
Reed McDonald 92
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My problem is with pre-season polls. They do create unfair advantages with media exposure and with early season losses (verses teams that start outside the top 20).
Buzzkill
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Eliminate all preseason polls and this thing will sort itself out.
Sip du jour
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This whole website has been dedicated to the illegitimacy of college football lately. It's so stupid and makes those who think it's somehow a new thing either stupid or pathetically stressed out about Texas.
Georgia was either 1 or 2 in reality. They lost within a system that couldn't overcome it. That's only happened 88,000 times in college football history.
Faustus
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No more votes by press or coaches. Each school gets a ranking set by their rival's fans who have a better handle on the situation.
_mpaul
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Abolish Using Rankings in Any Official Capacity
I did. Years ago.
TXAG 05
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rootube said:

Your first two are totally valid but horn had the ball in the red zone to win the game and beat the other final four team head to head. Where are you going to put them? And despite curb stomping FSU UGA lost to Bama just a few weeks ago, where are you going to put them?



This. Plus the FSU team that Georgia beat in the Orange Bowl was in no way the #4 team in the country. FSU had a golden opportunity to show everyone that they belonged but they decided to throw a temper tantrum and take their toys and go home. I have no sympathy for them.
Fatboy Thaddeus
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greg.w.h said:


Polls were created to cause disagreement and the resulting discussion. Congratulations on playing the rube!?!
This guy gets it. It's the FIFA-WWE-NBA model, oozing its way into your CFB viewing enjoyment.
Iowaggie
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The ranking I've looked at over the years is the Massey Composite rankings of 65 different computer and human polls. No one ranking is perfect, but more rankings probably removes bias.

Every rating system is going to have things that don't look right to they eyeballs because of lunacy like:
Ohio beating Iowa State beating K-State beating Texas beating Bama beating GA.


Massey this year had
1. Michigan
2. GA
3. Washington

34. A&M

133. Kent
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