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Stupid expanded playoff!!!!

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merch
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Without this nonsense, we would have Michigan v. Washington and there would be no discussion.

As many have said, expand to 4 and all it does is grow number of teams thinking they got screwed. Grow to 8, 12, 16, same result.
MaroonStain
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In 2012 and 2020, we are in the playoff.
JJxvi
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Yeah Florida State would totally understand that…lol
DenverAggie
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100% disagree with that negative point of view. I'll take more football, and so will the busine$$ of football.
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zephyr88
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Until D1 does what D2 and D3 do, it's just a beauty competition.
JJxvi
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Oregon, Ohio State, Georgia all are certainly capable of winning a title via playoffs and will be for sure left out, much less one of Texas, Alabama, or Florida State. The idea that two is all you need this year is dumb and based on the idiotic decades of "rankings-think" that pervades only this particular slice of the sport.
ABATTBQ87
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Yeah, nobody enjoys March Madness or the College Baseball playoffs because of the 48 teams playing
merch
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No, but people only watch March Madness….only a handful of people actually watch the regular season.
ABATTBQ87
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merch said:

No, but people only watch March Madness….only a handful of people actually watch the regular season.



So millions watch regular season football, and those millions would easily watch more postseason football games
TexasAggiesWin
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merch said:

No, but people only watch March Madness….only a handful of people actually watch the regular season.


This thought assumes that if March Madness only had 4 teams, more people would watch regular season college basketball games. It also assumes that a larger football playoff in terms of teams would reduce the number of people watching games during the regular season. I believe both of those to be false
Iowaggie
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The problem has been Commissioners and ADs trying to keep the major bowl games relevant.

8, 12 or 16 should have long been an option over 2 or 4 when 120+ colleges are participating in the sport. And higher seeds should be hosting playoff games, not bowls (until championship games)
Mort Rainey
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MaroonStain said:

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In 2012 and 2020, we are in the playoff.


There was a playoff in 2020. We weren't in it. Try again.
merch
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It will reduce numbers that watch regular season.

Also takes away the beauty of the regular season.
For example, the build up to Ohio State/Michigan was like a playoff game. Next year, ho hum, both teams in.

Iowaggie
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merch said:

No, but people only watch March Madness….only a handful of people actually watch the regular season.




Football is king at every level regardless of post season format.
bmks270
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4 teams was dumb, should have always been a playoff of the 6 highest ranked conference champs. Then the conference championship game becomes a round of the playoff effectively making it 12 teams. Gives the season and conference a lot of weight. I think it's the best playoff architecture.
Gaius Julius Bevo
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In a 12 team playoff, it's hard to care overly much about the left out 13th place team. I don't see why they just couldn't have moved heaven and earth to have the 12 team tournament a year early. The ratings would have been very high.
merch
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Can always continue to water down.

Nobody, except FSU fans, would be arguing under old format. We would have Michigan and Wash.

All the one loss teams have reasons they should be in, reasons why all should be out, etc.

None of it is necessary.
Gaius Julius Bevo
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merch said:

Can always continue to water down.

Nobody, except FSU fans, would be arguing under old format. We would have Michigan and Wash.

All the one loss teams have reasons they should be in, reasons why all should be out, etc.

None of it is necessary.


The old way was horrendous in my opinion. I see progress in the developments over the years. The BCS was an improvement as is the 4 team playoff. The 12 team playoff will be the best iteration yet when it arrives next year.
AGDAD14
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Bring back New Year Day! We had expanded playoffs, the more things change, the more they stay the same! Someone is always going to get to VOTE!

Cotton Bowl: Missouri vs. OU
Peach Bowl: Ohio St vs. UGA
Rose Bowl: Michigan vs Washington
Sugar Bowl: tu vs. Bama
Orange Bowl: Oregon vs. FSU
Fiesta Bowl: Ole Miss vs. Penn St

Let the votes fall where they fall!
AGDAD14
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Once again, the more things change, the more they stay the same! As the OP said, all we needed was the Rose Bowl.
91AggieLawyer
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Iowaggie said:

The problem has been Commissioners and ADs trying to keep the major bowl games relevant.

8, 12 or 16 should have long been an option over 2 or 4 when 120+ colleges are participating in the sport. And higher seeds should be hosting playoff games, not bowls (until championship games)

I think it was partly this and partly keeping schools like Baylor, TCU and others locked out for whatever reason. Hell, we may have been one of the ones they wanted to keep out. But it was clear 6-8 years ago that they wanted the Bamas, Ohio States, Notre Dames, etc. IN and schools like Cincy, FAU/South Florida (whoever it was) out until they didn't have any other options like the last 2-3 years. Maybe it was ratings, maybe snobbery. Who knows for sure.

Everyone thought after the SEC-CG that Bama was the best team in the country. I was probably one of those people, too. Well, guess what? They're not. Who knows, maybe Georgia still is the best. We don't know who the best team is, and we'll never know for sure in most years regardless of what system you use. You can have 30 regular season games and declare the team with the best record, but then people will argue strength of schedule. You can play 10 regular season games and have a 32 team playoff and then the perceived best team loses early and everyone cries about seedings, the officiating, didn't get enough home field advantage, whatever.

The bottom line is you come up with a system that makes sense for EVERYONE and you go with that one. You don't worry if Bama, or whoever, because you're not catering for one team or a set of teams. If Baylor, FAU, TCU, or Buffalo for all I care, wins, they win. Right now, there are so many fingers on the scale things are immeasurable.
Cromagnum
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DenverAggie said:

100% disagree with that negative point of view. I'll take more football, and so will the busine$$ of football.


I'll take more football in a playoff format to decide on the field. Playing a bunch of meaningless bowl games with half the team sitting is pointless.
AggieMD95
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merch said:

Without this nonsense, we would have Michigan v. Washington and there would be no discussion.

As many have said, expand to 4 and all it does is grow number of teams thinking they got screwed. Grow to 8, 12, 16, same result.
I agree with you and would still like to see a shorter reg season and 16team bowl game playoff
dixichkn
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If the tradeoff is having even a few more games with full participation instead of half the team saying f*** it, I'm out…….

Then I'm all for it
Get Off My Lawn
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A variable playoff size would be interesting. The number of teams who have business competing for the title rarely aligns with the number of rows on a preplanned bracket. Just 2 legit teams? 1 game. 5 teams with a case? 6 teams / 5 games.
Ag in ATL
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Mort Rainey said:

MaroonStain said:

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In 2012 and 2020, we are in the playoff.


There was a playoff in 2020. We weren't in it. Try again.

Reread the post. Had the 12 team CFP been in place in 2020 we would have been in.
mustang1234
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ABATTBQ87 said:

merch said:

No, but people only watch March Madness….only a handful of people actually watch the regular season.



So millions watch regular season football, and those millions would easily watch more postseason football games
going to be the same amount of games. Some of these Bowl games will actually mean somethng now.
Texas Bowl will probably be a playoff bowl game next year.
NyAggie
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count me as one who loves that we are going to get a bunch of more meaningful football games in the postseason and less "opt-out" bowls.

BMX Bandit
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Texas Bowl will probably be a playoff bowl game next year.
thats not how it works


if playoffs had already expanded, weekend before Christmas you would have had:

Liberty @ FSU to play Alabama
Ole Miss @ UGA to play to play
pedoState @ tOSU to play Washington
Mizzou @ Oregon to play Michigan

next round in orange, cotton, fiesta and peach

semis in Rose and Sugar

(next year, semi finals are orange and cotton, then fiesta and peach)
mrfun83
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TexasAggiesWin said:

merch said:

No, but people only watch March Madness….only a handful of people actually watch the regular season.


This thought assumes that if March Madness only had 4 teams, more people would watch regular season college basketball games. It also assumes that a larger football playoff in terms of teams would reduce the number of people watching games during the regular season. I believe both of those to be false

The more of a thing you have, economically speaking, the less the value of the thing. Not against expanded playoffs, but it will eventually devalue the regular season. We just don't know to what extent.
Plus there are two to three times as many BB games as football in the regular season so each game means less mathematically-speaking for ranking purposes.
rootube
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merch said:

It will reduce numbers that watch regular season.

Also takes away the beauty of the regular season.
For example, the build up to Ohio State/Michigan was like a playoff game. Next year, ho hum, both teams in.




No it won't. It anyone was worried about the numbers they would not let teams like A&M schedule teams like Abilene Christian.
rootube
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mrfun83 said:

TexasAggiesWin said:

merch said:

No, but people only watch March Madness….only a handful of people actually watch the regular season.


This thought assumes that if March Madness only had 4 teams, more people would watch regular season college basketball games. It also assumes that a larger football playoff in terms of teams would reduce the number of people watching games during the regular season. I believe both of those to be false

The more of a thing you have, economically speaking, the less the value of the thing. Not against expanded playoffs, but it will eventually devalue the regular season. We just don't know to what extent.
Plus there are two to three times as many BB games as football in the regular season so each game means less mathematically-speaking for ranking purposes.


So we have only four playoff spots this year and we left out FSU who was undefeated in their regular season. Can you explain to me how we could possibly have valued FSU's regular season any less!


Also, by the way, UM just set the blueprint for your precious regular season schedule. Don't play any non-conference games where there is a remote chance to lose. The committee values smashing UNLV more highly than a close loss to a good team. The current system makes the regular season far worse.
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