Interesting. Both Zach Calzada and Haynes King are having pretty good years at their respective schools. UIW and Georgia Tech having pretty good years by their standards.

Haynes is still completing a lot of passes to players in the opposing uniforms and I'm sure Calzada is still throwing 100mph fast balls to receivers in the flats - but both seem to actually having good years in less "complicated" offenses.

Jimbo's offense wasn't complicated. It was just bad.

It was bad in part because it was too complicated.

Great offenses have a rhythm and for whatever reason Jimbo's offenses never had a rhythm of any kind.

Great playbooks are like watching a movie each drive. Jimbos was like a clutter of tiktok videos.

3rd down play at the beginning of the 2nd half against App St. will tell you everything you need to know about it

It was complicated and bad.

Nobody "got it" besides jimbo

Didn't look too bad with a good offensive line that one year. Too bad Jimbo never seemed to prioritize the offensive line

I never understood why Jimbo's offense was so complicated. For all the plays in his Cheesecake Factory Menu, the receivers only ever ran three different patterns. We never put in motion, or misdirection. Clearly, though, picking the play was very difficult, because even Jimbo had a terrible time making a choice, as evidenced by all the timeouts we had to take because we couldn't pick a play

Jimbo hid behind Winston.

Every time I saw jimbos playbook, I thought I was at IHOP

It was too predictable with no pace.

You can be predictable in todays CFB, but not when the D is on the balls of their feet versus on their heels.

It's actually quite simple. No one was gonna actually make a bad statement against Jimbo but you also can't play QB afraid to make mistakes. That was proved in Jimbo's last game.

Henderson knew he was playing in front of a true freshman behind him. Guy hadn't played in over two years and didn't have anything to lose. That is the most telling sign beside the subpar Oline play.

But at least he yelled at every QB any time the drive didn't result in a TD. Because that S*** never got old.

Maybe the problem with King and Calzada was not the Offense as much as the talent on the defenses they face.

Almost every HS QB that plays Varsity is hopefully going to do better against JV teams.

If Jimbo's offense was so complicated, then how did all the defenses have such an easy time figuring it out?

It was difficult for college kids to perfect. That's why it made
Jimbo feel smart and hence why he refused to deter from the scheme, because it was all his.

DallasAg 94 said:

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Maybe the problem with King and Calzada was not the Offense as much as the talent on the defenses they face.

Almost every HS QB that plays Varsity is hopefully going to do better against JV teams.

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We scored 14 on App State.

Football and most sports aren't complicated. Just having some common sense, putting your best players in the right places and be creative with your game plan goes a long way.

AggieKeith15 said:

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Great playbooks are like watching a movie each drive. Jimbos was like a clutter of tiktok videos.

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Agree 100% with this assessment (even though I have no idea what this analogy means)

Bill Superman said:

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It was difficult for college kids to perfect. That's why it made
Jimbo feel smart and hence why he refused to deter from the scheme, because it was all his.

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DeBoer's O was very vanilla and generic. If not for 2 INTs, Oregon St wins that game.

Orangutan said:

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DallasAg 94 said:

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Maybe the problem with King and Calzada was not the Offense as much as the talent on the defenses they face.

Almost every HS QB that plays Varsity is hopefully going to do better against JV teams.

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We scored 14 on App State.

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App State drained the clock. Their TOP was 41 mins. The team underestimated AppSt... might have looked past them. We had 2 fumbles which had nothing to do with a complicated playbook and we still almost won.

The human head weighs 11 lbs.

What's your point. Sure, blame the coaching, but what does that have to do with a complicated playbook?!

Pretty much the difference of the below videos.

That didn't help at all...

nm

AggieKeith15 said:

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Great offenses have a rhythm and for whatever reason Jimbo's offenses never had a rhythm of any kind.

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Might be the post of the year. I never really thought of it this way. His offense just isn't fluid or dynamic. Zero big plays.

I thought at times Jimbo really had a real Denny's menu in his hand.

Just gotta coach'm better

Gotta execute

Bobaloo said:

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AggieKeith15 said:

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Great offenses have a rhythm and for whatever reason Jimbo's offenses never had a rhythm of any kind.

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Might be the post of the year. I never really thought of it this way. His offense just isn't fluid or dynamic. Zero big plays.

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The rhythm comment is spot on. Even without a big play every play was a time consuming and seemingly disjointed one-off. Confusion on seemingly every play at the line. Then once the play is off Max standing in the pocket for 4, 5, 6 seconds still holding the ball.

I the afternoon after our Ole Miss game I was at lunch and an NFL game was on the TV. The team, don't recall who it was, was just steadily marching down the field. They were moving the chains every few downs with no sense of concern. Everything was smooth and fluid. The ball was snapped and within 2-3 seconds, and sometimes faster on a run, it was out of the QB's hands and headed down field.

Slow is smooth. Smooth is fast. We were slow, but we weren't smooth. Plays were herky-jerky at best.

DallasAg 94 said:

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Orangutan said:

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DallasAg 94 said:

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Maybe the problem with King and Calzada was not the Offense as much as the talent on the defenses they face.

Almost every HS QB that plays Varsity is hopefully going to do better against JV teams.

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We scored 14 on App State.

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App State drained the clock. Their TOP was 41 mins. The team underestimated AppSt... might have looked past them. We had 2 fumbles which had nothing to do with a complicated playbook and we still almost won.

The human head weighs 11 lbs.

What's your point. Sure, blame the coaching, but what does that have to do with a complicated playbook?!

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How about the Colorado game?

DallasAg 94 said:

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Orangutan said:

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DallasAg 94 said:

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Maybe the problem with King and Calzada was not the Offense as much as the talent on the defenses they face.

Almost every HS QB that plays Varsity is hopefully going to do better against JV teams.

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We scored 14 on App State.

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App State drained the clock. Their TOP was 41 mins. The team underestimated AppSt... might have looked past them. We had 2 fumbles which had nothing to do with a complicated playbook and we still almost won.

The human head weighs 11 lbs.

What's your point. Sure, blame the coaching, but what does that have to do with a complicated playbook?!

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We only scored 20 against a 1-11 Massachusetts team. How about that game? We scored 17 against an 0-9 Vandy team.

it was our guys having the hard time with the offense, the defense just had to sit back and watch the cluster f***

What appears to make Dumbos offense "look" complicated is the predictable formations which opponents do a good job of coaching their defenses on how to make it difficult or defend. So that means the QB's have to understand what the defense is doing and improvise. But Dumbo tells them just run the play or next man up.

Bobaloo said:

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AggieKeith15 said:

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Great offenses have a rhythm and for whatever reason Jimbo's offenses never had a rhythm of any kind.

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Might be the post of the year. I never really thought of it this way. His offense just isn't fluid or dynamic. Zero big plays.

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A big part of that was Jimbo's failure to manage the clock or the tempo.

It was as if Jimbo thought football waited on him.

CuervoAg said:

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Interesting. Both Zach Calzada and Haynes King are having pretty good years at their respective schools. UIW and Georgia Tech having pretty good years by their standards.

Haynes is still completing a lot of passes to players in the opposing uniforms and I'm sure Calzada is still throwing 100mph fast balls to receivers in the flats - but both seem to actually having good years in less "complicated" offenses.

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Was the Georgia Tech-Clemson game that long ago?

Isn't it wild that the QB who everyone said just couldn't get it, was the only QB he had that got it?