This is the landscape that may come to be. Stay with me here.

The SEC adds 3 to 5 ACC schools (this would have happened yesterday if the ACC grant of rights were written differently).

The SEC (and B1G) break away from the NCAA, forming their own independently run leagues.

Vanderbilt (as the lone academic focused small private school in the SEC) isn't willing to leave the NCAA and they opt to join a conference with Duke and other small private schools, staying apart of the NCAA and leaving the SEC behind. This allows an additional ACC school to join the SEC, and raises all schools per year pay out.

Ending up with this:

Alabama
Arkansas
Auburn
Clemson
Florida
Florida State
Georgia
Kentucky
LSU
Mississippi State
Missouri
North Carolina
Oklahoma
Ole Miss
South Carolina
Tennessee
Texas
Texas A&M

Plus 2 of:

Virginia
Virginia Tech
NC State
Miami

ALL SEC schools football players get a licensing deal through the media rights deal of the conference, which would be able without the confines of the NCAA. NIL is able to be regulated and public.

The conference will move to a 10, or more, game conference schedule with a cross over non-conference game with the B1G.

This is what I see happened at some point.

What's the point of having a conference that large? Is it even college football when that happens?

Some interesting thoughts. Not sure Vandy would give up the SEC monies
that they collect. Plus Vandy is pretty competitive in most sports other than football.

Sterling82 said:

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What's the point of having a conference that large? Is it even college football when that happens?

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More money, the ability to self govern, and bigger market share/power. Clemson, FSU, and other would have joined already if not for contract issues.

The general public would much rather watch Clemson/FSU, UNC play Texas A&M, LSU, Bama, Florida than Wake Forest, Boston College, and Syracuse.

Sterling82 said:

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What's the point of having a conference that large? Is it even college football when that happens?

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It is not college football. That is the goal.

Fox and Disney want their own football leagues. At some point, it will be inconvenient to associate a football club with higher education.

Turrible take.

Vandy may be small and private but they sure aren't stupid. Why on God's green earth would they give up SEC money?

Correct, it is the schools brand, logos, and name that is most valuable to the market.

Maybe they're just putting the band back together.

Organization, Contraction and Expansion
SEC schools began athletic competition with one another more than 100 years ago as members of the Southern Intercollegiate Athletic Association. Seven institutions (Alabama, Auburn, Georgia, Georgia Tech, North Carolina, Sewanee and Vanderbilt) attended the SIAA organizational meeting of faculty representatives, called by Dr. William L. Dudley of Vanderbilt, in Atlanta Dec. 22, 1894.
Student teams from the schools began meeting in various sports with little pattern to their contests. The American adaptation of the English game rugby, called "football," was drifting down from the East and Midwest. Southerners were quickly attracted to this sport formalized in 1869.
The first football game in the Southeast was played April 9, 1880, on the ground now called Old Stoll Field at the University of Kentucky. Kentucky A&M (now UK) organized a team and in November 1881, played Transylvania College in a three-game series. By 1895, 11 current SEC members were playing football.
Basketball moved quickly to the South as Vanderbilt was playing at the Nashville YMCA in 1893, just two years after Dr. James Naismith originated the game at Springfield (Mass.) College.
Track was organized on a conference level at the 1895 SIAA meeting presided over by President Dudley who served until his death in 1914. The first championship meet was held at Vanderbilt May 15, 1896. By 1900, eight of the 13 charter SEC members were participating.
The seven-member SIAA expanded to 19 institutions in 1895 (Alabama, Auburn, Central, Clemson, Cumberland, Georgia, Georgia Tech, Kentucky, LSU, Mercer, Mississippi State, Nashville, North Carolina, Sewanee, Southwestern Presbyterian, Tennessee, Texas, Tulane and Vanderbilt) and by 1920 there were 30 members.
The larger schools reorganized as the Southern Conference at a meeting in Gainesville Dec. 12-13, 1920. Professor S.V. Sanford of Georgia called the meeting and served as the first president. Charter members of the Southern Conference included: Alabama, Auburn, Clemson, Georgia, Georgia Tech, Kentucky, Maryland, Mississippi State, North Carolina, North Carolina State, Tennessee, Virginia, Virginia Tech and Washington & Lee.
Despite an original limit of 16, the membership grew to 23 by 1928. In 1922 Florida, Louisiana State, Mississippi, South Carolina, Tulane, Vanderbilt and Virginia Military joined, while Sewanee and Duke became members in 1923 and 1928 respectively. At one time or another, the SIAA and the SC included most of the Southern colleges from Virginia to Texas.
The 13 members west and south of the Appalachian Mountains reorganized as the Southeastern Conference at the annual SC meeting of Dec. 8-9, 1932, in Knoxville. The 10 coast members remained in the Southern Conference. Dr. Frank L. McVey of Kentucky was elected president of the new conference whose charter members were: Alabama, Auburn, Florida, Georgia, Georgia Tech, Kentucky, Louisiana State, Mississippi, Mississippi State, Sewanee, Tennessee, Tulane and Vanderbilt. (Sewanee withdrew Dec. 13, 1940, Georgia Tech on June 1, 1964 and Tulane on June 1, 1966). McVey held an informal meeting of the school presidents in Birmingham Feb. 16, 1933, then the first full meeting in Atlanta Feb. 27.
Faced with the task of conference realignment after competing with 10 members since 1966, the SEC welcomed the University of Arkansas on Aug. 1, 1990, and the University of South Carolina on Sept. 25, 1990. Both joined the SEC on July 1, 1991.
Fully incorporated into conference competition by 1992, Arkansas and South Carolina participated in SEC championships for all sports except football during the 1991-92 academic year. The SEC was again at the forefront, introducing football, basketball and baseball divisional play and the nation's first-ever Division I football championship game.
The conference welcomed Texas A&M University on Sept. 25, 2011, and University of Missouri on Nov. 6, 2011, in the only other expansion in SEC history. Both joined the SEC on July 1, 2012 and competed in their first year in all conference sports in 2012-13.

without the confines of the NCAA. NIL is able to be regulated and public.


NIL is already public and within the rules. Schools have nothing to do with the money nor is it part of the school's budget.

The old Southern Conference, minus the schools that deemphasized football, plus the top old Big 12 schools is the idea.

I'd take almost any set up if it meant sip is never in our conference.

tuck fexas

Bring back Sewanee or GTFO!

More likely scenario is that t.u. starts talking to the bigger SEC schools to try to convince them to leave the smaller schools behind to form a new Conference with even higher payouts for everyone invited. Vandy, Mississippi schools and Missouri get left out, and maybe SC and Arkansas. t.u. of course will expect to receive a larger slice of the pie for being the all-knowing great geniuses that they are. It's such a great idea, it can't possibly fail!

Jim. Sir. Please don't do that again.

Toptierag2018 said:

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This is the landscape that may come to be. Stay with me here.

The SEC adds 3 to 5 ACC schools (this would have happened yesterday if the ACC grant of rights were written differently).

The SEC (and B1G) break away from the NCAA, forming their own independently run leagues.

Vanderbilt (as the lone academic focused small private school in the SEC) isn't willing to leave the NCAA and they opt to join a conference with Duke and other small private schools, staying apart of the NCAA and leaving the SEC behind. This allows an additional ACC school to join the SEC, and raises all schools per year pay out.

Ending up with this:

Alabama
Arkansas
Auburn
Clemson
Florida
Florida State
Georgia
Kentucky
LSU
Mississippi State
Missouri
North Carolina
Oklahoma
Ole Miss
South Carolina
Tennessee
Texas
Texas A&M

Plus 2 of:

Virginia
Virginia Tech
NC State
Miami

ALL SEC schools football players get a licensing deal through the media rights deal of the conference, which would be able without the confines of the NCAA. NIL is able to be regulated and public.

The conference will move to a 10, or more, game conference schedule with a cross over non-conference game with the B1G.

This is what I see happened at some point.

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I don't see us adding two teams from NC or finishing with three teams from FL but the rest seem reasonable. I also have a feeling that Virginia would go to B10 if there was a land grab and also a FL team so possibly Miami.

You lost me when Vandy is going to walk away from 100 million/ year!

UVA takes snobbery to another level, they'll never join the sec.

Why is everyone is such a damn rush to create NFL lite. It is ruining CFB; if the NFL wants a G-league, just start it already. Would gladly pass thru the prima donnas

MosesRAB-93 said:

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Why is everyone is such a damn rush to create NFL lite. It is ruining CFB; if the NFL wants a G-league, just start it already. Would gladly pass thru the prima donnas

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That's what I don't get. The characteristics that made college football appealing are being brushed away for money. And what's the money for? More lavish stadiums. Higher coaches salaries? Is there really a need for that? Well yes, if you don't care about the concept of intercollegiate athletics. Finally, don't forget how the WAC invited enough schools in just so they could throw out the ones they didn't want and form a new conference. With the sips, and others like them, in the mix don't ever think this scenario is out of the question. For the most part, A&M has navigated pretty shrewdly but lately we've just been having to accept what others serve up.

Sterling82 said:

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MosesRAB-93 said:

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Why is everyone is such a damn rush to create NFL lite. It is ruining CFB; if the NFL wants a G-league, just start it already. Would gladly pass thru the prima donnas

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That's what I don't get. The characteristics that made college football appealing are being brushed away for money. And what's the money for? More lavish stadiums. Higher coaches salaries? Is there really a need for that? Well yes, if you don't care about the concept of intercollegiate athletics. Finally, don't forget how the WAC invited enough schools in just so they could throw out the ones they didn't want and form a new conference. With the sips, and others like them, in the mix don't ever think this scenario is out of the question. For the most part, A&M has navigated pretty shrewdly but lately we've just been having to accept what others serve up.

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I completely get it! But in my mind a world where Texas A&M plays Alabama, Florida State, Oklahoma, and LSU every other year instead of Kansas and Baylor. Also while pitting Clemson and FSU against those teams, instead of Boston College and Wake Forest is an improvement to College football.

I think most would agree, unless you are from Baylor or Wake.

You lost me when you said you had a mind.

duddleysdraw88 said:

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I'd take almost any set up if it meant sip is never in our conference.

tuck fexas

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The game needs to be played every year.
Our schedule will look much different going forward and more than likely no divisions .
This will probably be our last chance to win an SEC West Title .
It has been a tough road going on 12 years .
There will be different teams on our schedule but it will be just as difficult .
Jimbo really needs to step it up this year .

With tu and OU's departure, we should go back to the suck*ss Big 12. We would dominate