At least I still do.

I don't place blame on these kids! Coaching seems to be the real issue. Will Jimbo hire an OC that would come in with a fresh approch with modern play calling? We can only hope.

Do some positions need to change? For sure!

Do we have the depth of talented kids that will step up? Absolutely

It is one freaking game and some on here are ready to jump off the cliff or never watch a game ever again!

As for me and mine...... there is no better place than an Aggie football game! We have seen decades of Aggie football and this school, this team, and this program (and other sports) have never been on a better trajectory than it is now!

*Go ahead and flame away. I can take it!

It will always be Jimbo's offense. No real OC will come to carry his water.

It's year 5. A loss against the sun belt conference. Keys in lava , man

I appreciate it but in all honesty for me....I have been concerned and vocal about Jimbo's offense since the 2020 season. Writing has been on the wall for YEARS now. Thing is, Elko was able to cover up the ineptitude of the offensive coordinator with a dominating defense.

Fisher's best coaching choice was Elko.

And if our defense struggles this year, oh God, all Hell will break loose for sure. Can you imagine what this team's record in the Fisher tenure would be with a Sumlin like defense? That in itself boosts the value of Sumlin as a offensive guru. Cause I will tell you now, Jimbo is NOT a guru of offense in college. That died easily over a decade ago.

Jimbo cannot hide anymore. He has this season to prove all the OC haters wrong. I will give him the next 9 games but my confidence level is a 0.00

you cannot use the word "kids" when some of these guys are cashing checks for $10k, $20k, $50k, etc..,

I don't have a choice, none of us do. I'm with Jimbo as long as he's our coach. I trust he knows what he's doing more than any of us on this board. I'm a loyal Aggie and I will go down with this ship.

Zero trust. Jimbo has had too many years to prove his offense. It's a failure. Will not accept until he moves on.

I expect Jimbo to look in the mirror, be self objective, and recognize what is happening before his eyes. He needs to get into the coaching room with his staff and ask them to be honest to themselves, to him, and state what is the problem and a suggested fix.

That is what a good leader would do.

At some point you have to win games that matter. At this point in year five Jimbo can't win games that don't matter.

jonb02 said:

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I don't have a choice, none of us do. I'm with Jimbo as long as he's our coach. I trust he knows what he's doing more than any of us on this board. I'm a loyal Aggie and I will go down with this ship.

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I am and always will be a loyal Ag. I have big plans for Miami game and this changes none of it.

But it is plainly stupid to follow an idiot general into a battle. And this isnt the military as we have a choice. Sorry I value our brand and football team too much. Jimbo is just another coach that is likely to come and go just like his predecessors.

He hasnt done a SINGLE thing to deserve a blind following. If you followed Sumlin blindly, I give you respect for the undying committment. But dont give you respect for your football IQ.

Jimbo needs to prove it. He put together a good staff and has recruited pretty well but he has NOT proven a single thing on the field!!!! Wake up, please.

He does ramble his mouth better than most.....

There's something very wrong to lose to App St.

I had trusted in him but if immediate changes aren't made then we are in for a bad future

duddleysdraw88 said:

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I don't place blame on these kids!

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Please accept my condolences, welcome back from your coma. We have this thing called "NIL" now, but how adult of you not to blame these "kids".

Playing to the level of your competition shows poor mental preparation by the staff.

Easy to get a team pumped to play SEC teams, takes more talent to get them "up" to play lesser competition.

In my opinion, Fisher has changed the offense since 18 but it's probably to our detriment. In 18 we ran plays under center from the I formation and Travion had a huge season. We don't do that anymore and we rarely run out of the pistol which also could give us a slight edge on running downs. This year we seem to have made explosive plays a priority but can't get that done and can't string successful plays together to sustain drives. Personally, I don't care what we run as long as we run it well. And that is not happening and we look so nonchalant from the opening whistle it makes me wonder if anyone knows what we're trying to do.

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jonb02 said:

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I don't have a choice, none of us do. I'm with Jimbo as long as he's our coach. I trust he knows what he's doing more than any of us on this board. I'm a loyal Aggie and I will go down with this ship.

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I am and always will be a loyal Ag. I have big plans for Miami game and this changes none of it.

But it is plainly stupid to follow an idiot general into a battle. And this isnt the military as we have a choice. Sorry I value our brand and football team too much. Jimbo is just another coach that is likely to come and go just like his predecessors.

He hasnt done a SINGLE thing to deserve a blind following. If you followed Sumlin blindly, I give you respect for the undying committment. But dont give you respect for your football IQ.

Jimbo needs to prove it. He put together a good staff and has recruited pretty well but he has NOT proven a single thing on the field!!!! Wake up, please.

He does ramble his mouth better than most.....

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Please explain to us in detail what we should do on offense. After all, you have superior football IQ.

And just lol at the bolded part. What an idiot

Some of us remember when right after Jimbo signed his $75 million dollar contract an interviewer asked him about what his (deceased) coal miner and farmer father, 'Big Jim', would think about a job that would bring in that kind of money.

Jimbo said his old man would have told him that he'd better get off his ass and start earning his money.

I think ole Big Jim's advice would be appropriate now. Sure, Jimbo has signed some great players, but the BMA's have a lot to do with that in this environment, and they're not spending Jimbo's money.

duddleysdraw88 said:

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At least I still do.

I don't place blame on these kids! Coaching seems to be the real issue. Will Jimbo hire an OC that would come in with a fresh approch with modern play calling? We can only hope.

Do some positions need to change? For sure!

Do we have the depth of talented kids that will step up? Absolutely

It is one freaking game and some on here are ready to jump off the cliff or never watch a game ever again!

As for me and mine...... there is no better place than an Aggie football game! We have seen decades of Aggie football and this school, this team, and this program (and other sports) have never been on a better trajectory than it is now!

*Go ahead and flame away. I can take it!

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No better place to be? Seriously? This why we won't ever be an elite program. No better place to be…., hell why would the organization risk changing anything….

If more people actually quit supporting crap play, they might actually make a real effort to fix it, but alas they don't have to. People like you will blindly show up no matter what product they put out there.

I did trust in Jimbo completely until this last Saturday.
He lost my trust with his inability to make changes that appear obvious to everyone but him.
To keep doing the same thing and expect different results is a sure sign of insanity.
To start regaining my trust I need to see a new quarterback specifically Max Johnson start this weekend against Miami.
And I also need to see much improved playcalling. Not this piss poor unimaginative plays that do not produce positive yards. Quit throwing 25 yards to the sideline for 1 yard gain.

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you cannot use the word "kids" when some of these guys are cashing checks for $10k, $20k, $50k, etc..,

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Disagree. Money doesn't make them older or more mature.

jumbo was stubborn to a fault.
little if any play changing, when no gains made.
success was thwarted by repetition.

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W said:

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you cannot use the word "kids" when some of these guys are cashing checks for $10k, $20k, $50k, etc..,

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Disagree. Money doesn't make them older or more mature.

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It certainly makes them more accountable; f-ups don't come free in this business we now call college football.

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W said:

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you cannot use the word "kids" when some of these guys are cashing checks for $10k, $20k, $50k, etc..,

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Disagree. Money doesn't make them older or more mature.

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As true as that may be that has no relation to them being adults, not kids

philevans said:

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jumbo was stubborn to a fault.
little if any play changing, when no gains made.
success was thwarted by repetition.

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This is such a tired and wrong take. Let's look at each drive that failed

1st drive
1st & 10 at TA&M 14
(12:55 - 1st) Haynes King pass complete to Donovan Green for 12 yds to the TexAM 26 for a 1ST down

1st & 10 at TA&M 26
(12:42 - 1st) TEXAS A&M Penalty, False Start (-5 Yards) to the TexAM 21

(12:19 - 1st) Timeout TEXAS A&M, clock 12:19

1st & 15 at TA&M 21
(12:10 - 1st) Haynes King pass complete to Evan Stewart for 4 yds to the TexAM 25

2nd & 11 at TA&M 25
(11:39 - 1st) Haynes King pass incomplete

3rd & 11 at TA&M 25
(11:30 - 1st) Haynes King pass complete to Evan Stewart for 7 yds to the TexAM 32

4th & 4 at TA&M 32
(10:55 - 1st) Nik Constantinou punt for 48 yds, fair catch by Tyler Page at the AppSt 20

2nd drive
1st & 10 at TA&M 25
(2:15 - 1st) Haynes King run for 5 yds to the TexAM 30

2nd & 5 at TA&M 30
(2:05 - 1st) Devon Achane run for a loss of 1 yard to the TexAM 29

3rd & 6 at TA&M 29
(1:24 - 1st) Haynes King sacked by Jalen McLeod for 0 yards to the TexAM 29 Haynes King fumbled, recovered by TexAM Layden Robinson , return for 0 yards Layden Robinson fumbled, recovered by AppSt

3rd drive- Touchdown

4th drive
1st & 10 at TA&M 39
(5:30 - 2nd) Haynes King sacked by Jalen McLeod for a loss of 4 yards to the TexAM 35

2nd & 14 at TA&M 35
(4:45 - 2nd) Haynes King pass complete to Yulkeith Brown for 6 yds to the TexAM 41

3rd & 8 at TA&M 41
(4:00 - 2nd) Haynes King run for 2 yds to the TexAM 43

4th & 6 at TA&M 43
(3:25 - 2nd) Nik Constantinou punt for 45 yds, fair catch by Tyler Page at the AppSt 12

5th drive
1st & 10 at TA&M 29
(1:51 - 2nd) Haynes King pass incomplete

2nd & 10 at TA&M 29
(1:46 - 2nd) Haynes King run for a loss of 2 yards to the TexAM 27

(1:46 - 2nd) Timeout APPALACHIAN ST, clock 01:46

3rd & 12 at TA&M 27
(1:38 - 2nd) Haynes King pass incomplete

4th & 12 at TA&M 27
(1:27 - 2nd) Nik Constantinou punt for 51 yds , Tyler Page returns for 12 yds to the AppSt 34

6th drive
1st & 10 at TA&M 25
(14:55 - 3rd) Haynes King pass incomplete

2nd & 10 at TA&M 25
(14:45 - 3rd) Haynes King pass complete to Devon Achane for 5 yds to the TexAM 30

3rd & 5 at TA&M 30
(14:09 - 3rd) Haynes King pass complete to Ainias Smith for 6 yds to the TexAM 36 for a 1ST down

1st & 10 at TA&M 36
(13:30 - 3rd) Devon Achane run for 6 yds to the TexAM 42

2nd & 4 at TA&M 42
(13:25 - 3rd) Devon Achane run for 3 yds to the TexAM 45

3rd & 1 at TA&M 45
(12:42 - 3rd) Haynes King pass complete to Ainias Smith for a loss of 2 yards to the TexAM 43

4th & 3 at TA&M 43
(12:10 - 3rd) Nik Constantinou punt for 38 yds, punt out-of-bounds at the AppSt 19

7th drive
1st & 10 at TA&M 33
(10:20 - 3rd) Devon Achane run for 7 yds to the TexAM 40

2nd & 3 at TA&M 40
(9:53 - 3rd) Devon Achane run for 9 yds to the TexAM 49 for a 1ST down

1st & 10 at TA&M 49
(9:35 - 3rd) Devon Achane run for no gain to the TexAM 49

2nd & 10 at TA&M 49
(8:56 - 3rd) Haynes King pass complete to Evan Stewart for 13 yds Evan Stewart fumbled, recovered by AppSt Nick Hampton

8th drive- Touchdown KO return

9th drive

1st & 10 at TA&M 25
(7:30 - 4th) Haynes King run for a loss of 5 yards to the TexAM 20

2nd & 15 at TA&M 20
(7:12 - 4th) Haynes King pass incomplete

3rd & 15 at TA&M 20
(7:12 - 4th) TEXAS A&M Penalty, False Start (-5 Yards) to the TexAM 15

3rd & 20 at TA&M 15
(7:01 - 4th) APPALACHIAN ST Penalty, Roughing Passer (15 Yards) to the TexAM 30 for a 1ST down

1st & 10 at TA&M 30
(6:50 - 4th) Haynes King pass complete to Evan Stewart for 5 yds to the TexAM 35

2nd & 5 at TA&M 35
(6:10 - 4th) Haynes King pass complete to Evan Stewart for 19 yds to the AppSt 46 for a 1ST down

1st & 10 at APP 46
(5:40 - 4th) Devon Achane run for 12 yds to the AppSt 34 for a 1ST down

1st & 10 at APP 34
(5:10 - 4th) Devon Achane run for a loss of 1 yard to the AppSt 35

(4:35 - 4th) Timeout TEXAS A&M, clock 04:35

2nd & 11 at APP 35
(4:30 - 4th) Haynes King pass incomplete

3rd & 11 at APP 35
(4:20 - 4th) Haynes King pass complete to Yulkeith Brown for 5 yds to the AppSt 30

4th & 6 at APP 30
(3:43 - 4th) Caden Davis 47 yd FG MISSED

If you look at each drive, you can see we moved the ball better as the game progressed. We just had some costly fumbles and penalties.

Jimbo can sure dish it out when players make mistakes. He values those who are "teachable"

Let's hope he values this in himself!

Come on guys let's get behind Coach Fisher it's just 1 game. I predict by the end of the season we will be talking about why he deserves another raise. Still a lot of football to play!

OP says he still trusts Jimbo and then correctly points out that coaching is the problem.

Do you trust Jimbo to always be the problem?

Houstonag said:

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I expect Jimbo to look in the mirror, be self objective, and recognize what is happening before his eyes. He needs to get into the coaching room with his staff and ask them to be honest to themselves, to him, and state what is the problem and a suggested fix.

That is what a good leader would do.

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This is what smoking crack does to a man's brain.

duddleysdraw88 said:

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At least I still do.

I don't place blame on these kids! Coaching seems to be the real issue. Will Jimbo hire an OC that would come in with a fresh approch with modern play calling? We can only hope.

Do some positions need to change? For sure!

Do we have the depth of talented kids that will step up? Absolutely

It is one freaking game and some on here are ready to jump off the cliff or never watch a game ever again!

As for me and mine...... there is no better place than an Aggie football game! We have seen decades of Aggie football and this school, this team, and this program (and other sports) have never been on a better trajectory than it is now!

*Go ahead and flame away. I can take it!

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We just got our asses handed to us at home to App State and they were clearly the better team. Our starting QB has 33.1 QBR Which puts him almost dead last in all of college football.

Our entire offense looks like a deer caught in the headlights and on every play it feels like 100 things need to go right for us to get 3 yards and you're saying in Jimbo we trust?

I don't know what you're drinking but I need some of it.

It's one thing to be an alumni and a fan.

It's another thing to just completely deny reality and live in a fantasy world.

Here is reality: We suck royal F****** ASS at football in 2022.

Year FIVE OP! All Jimbo's players that he recruited. All of his players have been in his system for years. This is his culture and his team that he created.

Only way he gets my confidence is by winning out. Yep, straight Ws the rest of the season.

Jimbo hasn't proven a darn thing since his arrival. Winning is all that matters here and while at A&M he has been average. He wasn't hired and he isn't paid to be average. Until he wins a natty HERE he gets no shelter.

He's simply a stupid@ss during games. Seriously, he CANNOT think quickly enough to call plays successfully.

I would be elated if he did like Saban and let the coordinators call the plays on offense and defense. He can run a program that recruits VERY well, so now be the HEAD COACH ONLY!!!

Houstonag said:

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I expect Jimbo to look in the mirror, be self objective, and recognize what is happening before his eyes. He needs to get into the coaching room with his staff and ask them to be honest to themselves, to him, and state what is the problem and a suggested fix.

That is what a good leader would do.

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This is much more in line with what I think the problem is. A loss like this with our talent is a culture issue starting at the top. I believe Jimbo can move past it, but he's got to act quick before he loses the team/season.

I've got a lot more details on this in the Loochador thread.