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Remember when Saban (team) paid a HS QB a million dollars

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FriscoKid
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And then he bragged about all of their NIL money?

Hillary paid for warrant to spy on Trump.
jackie childs
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i remember...nicky doesn't


ChemEAg08
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Someone with a tweetter send that to him (if he is even on).
TX_Aggie37
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For what it's worth I'm pretty sure Bryce Young was already on the roster when that comment was made.
StinkyPinky
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TX_Aggie37 said:

For what it's worth I'm pretty sure Bryce Young was already on the roster when that comment was made.


This. People fundamentally do not understand NIL.
Beat40
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People don't understand Saban's argument.

Saban's argument is schools are using NIL opportunities (paying for name, image, and likeness) to recruit players to their school.

He's not saying NIL deals once the kids get on campus are wrong - his issue isn't that.

The Bryce Young stuff is, as you say, once he was on campus. It's a silly argument to use against Saban as it's not refuting his accusation.
12thMan9
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Wrong. Go listen to Saban's comments again.
cone
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Quote:

Saban's argument is schools are using NIL opportunities (paying for name, image, and likeness) to recruit players to their school.
so when do the players start receiving 1099s?
Muy
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Beat40 said:

People don't understand Saban's argument.

Saban's argument is schools are using NIL opportunities (paying for name, image, and likeness) to recruit players to their school.

He's not saying NIL deals once the kids get on campus are wrong - his issue isn't that.

The Bryce Young stuff is, as you say, once he was on campus. It's a silly argument to use against Saban as it's not refuting his accusation.


In the days of the open transfer portal there is no difference between a kid getting NIL to come to your school, or getting NIL to stay at your school.
Beat40
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12thMan9 said:

Wrong. Go listen to Saban's comments again.
This is the comment from Saban to which I was referring:

"We have a rule right now that said you cannot use name, image and likeness to entice a player to come to your school. Hell, read about it in the paper," Saban said. "I mean, Jackson State paid a guy a million dollars last year that was a really good Division I player to come to school. It was in the paper and they bragged about it. Nobody did anything about it."

From this article: https://www.foxnews.com/sports/alabamas-nick-saban-nil-texas-am-jackson-state

That quote is also in the videos.

Unless I missed something else, which I admit is totally possible, that's his argument - schools are using NIL opportunities to recruit players to their school.
Beat40
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Muy said:

Beat40 said:

People don't understand Saban's argument.

Saban's argument is schools are using NIL opportunities (paying for name, image, and likeness) to recruit players to their school.

He's not saying NIL deals once the kids get on campus are wrong - his issue isn't that.

The Bryce Young stuff is, as you say, once he was on campus. It's a silly argument to use against Saban as it's not refuting his accusation.


In the days of the open transfer portal there is no difference between a kid getting NIL to come to your school, or getting NIL to stay at your school.
That's what Saban's argument is - the NIL opportunities are being used to recruit guys to schools, including transfers.
KatyAg01
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Bonzer103 said:

TX_Aggie37 said:

For what it's worth I'm pretty sure Bryce Young was already on the roster when that comment was made.


This. People fundamentally do not understand NIL.
Unless the NIL deal is a three-year deal that contractually locks the player into a program for the duration, NIL is as much about retaining players as it is recruiting them. How long did Ewers stay at OSU? If OSU had wanted to keep him, the NIL cash had to keep flowing. Someone at Texas obviously ponied up the cash, and he left.

Saban complaining about one component of NIL (recruiting HS athletes, that he has lost some of his stronghold on) while ignoring the other component (retaining them) is hypocritical.

Bryce Young will (possibly) be the highest paid college football player this year; if his NIL money wasn't up to his liking, he'd be shopping himself around and likely land a better deal elsewhere than the one he currently has. Saban knows this, which is why this is nothing more than sour grapes.
FriskyGardenGnome
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Muy said:

Beat40 said:

People don't understand Saban's argument.

Saban's argument is schools are using NIL opportunities (paying for name, image, and likeness) to recruit players to their school.

He's not saying NIL deals once the kids get on campus are wrong - his issue isn't that.

The Bryce Young stuff is, as you say, once he was on campus. It's a silly argument to use against Saban as it's not refuting his accusation.


In the days of the open transfer portal there is no difference between a kid getting NIL to come to your school, or getting NIL to stay at your school.
Sure there is. That's why we have agents and lawyers.
BMX Bandit
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cone said:

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Saban's argument is schools are using NIL opportunities (paying for name, image, and likeness) to recruit players to their school.
so when do the players start receiving 1099s?


They are usually due. on January 31.

BMX Bandit
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In Texas, in most states, you cannot lock the player into staying at a school.
schmellba99
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Beat40 said:

People don't understand Saban's argument.

Saban's argument is schools are using NIL opportunities (paying for name, image, and likeness) to recruit players to their school.

He's not saying NIL deals once the kids get on campus are wrong - his issue isn't that.

The Bryce Young stuff is, as you say, once he was on campus. It's a silly argument to use against Saban as it's not refuting his accusation.
Of course using NIL as a recruiting tool happens - the second NIL became a thing, that was an inevitable outcome.

Saban is throwing a temper tantrum because he is coming to the realization that the "parity" of Alabama being able to wow recruits with national championship trophies on the surface and a few thousand in cash here and there under the surface isn't going to be enough anymore - and that schools like Texas A&M have beaten him to the punch at how they structure NIL, and he doesn't like the fact that he may not be the top dog for much longer.

His assertion that "Texas A&M" bought the recruits is 100% false - Texas A&M did no such thing, no more than Alabama is doing with their NIL opportunities at both recruiting new players and keeping existing players.

Just like with the transfer portal - which Saban was vehemently against and now uses to his advangate and the hurry up offense - which Saban lobbied against until he decided to start using it - Saban is 100% hypocritical. Especially when it comes to light via a bunch of tweets and what not that Alabama players were getting paid (shocking, I know) under the table long before NIL.
Triple-T
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saban hates America.
FriscoKid
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TX_Aggie37 said:

For what it's worth I'm pretty sure Bryce Young was already on the roster when that comment was made.
None of our players were paid with NIL money before they were students either. You think that someone is cutting checks prior to enrollment? That would be like the old days.
Hillary paid for warrant to spy on Trump.
Detmersdislocatedshoulder
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FriscoKid said:

TX_Aggie37 said:

For what it's worth I'm pretty sure Bryce Young was already on the roster when that comment was made.
None of our players were paid with NIL money before they were students either. You think that someone is cutting checks prior to enrollment? That would be like the old days.


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BMX Bandit
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FriscoKid said:

TX_Aggie37 said:

For what it's worth I'm pretty sure Bryce Young was already on the roster when that comment was made.
None of our players were paid with NIL money before they were students either. You think that someone is cutting checks prior to enrollment? That would be like the old days.
young was paid after his freshman year. thats when NIL started. Young wasn't paid the NIL million while in high school
Emilio Fantastico
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Beat40 said:

People don't understand Saban's argument.

Saban's argument is schools are using NIL opportunities (paying for name, image, and likeness) to recruit players to their school.

He's not saying NIL deals once the kids get on campus are wrong - his issue isn't that.

The Bryce Young stuff is, as you say, once he was on campus. It's a silly argument to use against Saban as it's not refuting his accusation.

Except for the fact that Saban crowing about how much HIS QB got was done specially as a recruiting tool.

"Hey look, if you come here, you just might get a deal like Bryce did."

Everything Satan says and does is calculated and with a purpose.
BSCE84ag
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When are the refs going to get their NIL deals? I wouldn't be suprised if Bama been paying for favorable calls.
TexasAggie81
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Saban understands one thing that he hasn't stated. A&M has a **** ton more money to throw around than Bama does. and that works to his definite disadvantage. But, hey ... the SEC invited us to join the conference, just as they have invited two other schools --- tu and Oklahoma --- one of which has plenty of cash to burn, too. Bama cannot outspend either A&M or tu. That's a fact. Our alumni bases are larger and richer. Saban is acknowledging ... by his shameless whining ... that it's a different world now. A world in which he can't win a national championship every time he turns around. It's one of those situations in which you are embarrassed for the man, and he doesn't even know why he should be embarrassed. And Skankey continues to kiss Saban's ass, admonishing both Saban and Jimbo when Saban thought he could bully Jimbo without prompting a response. Eventually, the bully gets his ass kicked. Jimbo has sent a message to Saban: go pick on someone your own size (smalller), or else. In this case, I love the way Jiimbo is representing the university and the athletic department.
FriskyGardenGnome
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BSCE84ag said:

When are the refs going to get their NIL deals? I wouldn't be suprised if Bama been paying for favorable calls.
HELL of an idea, son.

I'll alert the boys and girls at The Fund.

Thinking they can get in front of this one, too.
strbrst777
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It's impossible to completely separate NIL deals from recruiting. Money talks and word gets around. Intentional or not, when a coach announces BIG NIL deals such as of $1 million, it gets the attention of recruits.
TnAg23
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Beat40 said:

People don't understand Saban's argument.

Saban's argument is schools are using NIL opportunities (paying for name, image, and likeness) to recruit players to their school.

He's not saying NIL deals once the kids get on campus are wrong - his issue isn't that.

The Bryce Young stuff is, as you say, once he was on campus. It's a silly argument to use against Saban as it's not refuting his accusation.


Nice Little Car that Henry To'oto'o got immediately after transferring.

Hey, doesn't St.Nick own Mercedes dealerships in Tuscaloosa, Nashville, The Woodlands, and Baton Rouge?

Interesting
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