It's not like the NFL where there is parity in salary cap, a draft system and schedule formatting.

The reality is there are 120 FBS teams and only about 15 (including us) can seriously invest in facilities, coaching and recruiting-NIL.

I agree that the current format is ***** So why not take the top 32 programs out and create the elite level conference with its own schedule and playoff.

I would also set up rules on recruiting, number of coaches and set up a strength of schedule format similar to the NFL. The CFB playoff can be fixed but you need rules that provide parity and you need to stop treating all programs like they are on equal ground. They are NOT.

There's a league you may like. It's called NFL.

Stop trying to make college football like.

I've tried to tell people this before, as well. No matter what type of playoff structure you create, you simply cannot replicate the NFL. That is the disadvantage of college football; in basketball, any team can beat any other team, which is why there is so much drama and excitement in March Madness. In college football, the playoff lacks almost all of the uncertainty and is just a necessary evil to pad wallets.

That said, I happen to think that out of the 4 teams selected this year, the remaining 2 teams playing for the title ARE the best in college football. I guess it works, but that's about all I can say for it.

Cincy faired pretty well against Alabama. I guess they will be one of the 15.

BMX Bandit said:

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There's a league you may like. It's called NFL.

Stop trying to make college football like.

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Which is why I'd be in favor of eliminating the playoffs altogether and just going back to the AP and coaches' poll. I truly believe they did just as good a job of selecting a real champion.

I agree with the top 2 teams.

However I would hardly characterize it as a playoff. I think we all agreed there are only 2-3 teams each year that are good enough. But as a true football fan I would not be opposed to a 8-12 team playoff. I would really like to watch the first three rounds of great teams playing each other.

Are they going to beat Bama or GA? No.

It if you really like football, then you should push for more games for the good teams.

AGAZ03 said:

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It's not like the NFL where there is parity in salary cap, a draft system and schedule formatting.

The reality is there are 120 FBS teams and only about 15 (including us) can seriously invest in facilities, coaching and recruiting-NIL.

I agree that the current format is ***** So why not take the top 32 programs out and create the elite level conference with its own schedule and playoff.

I would also set up rules on recruiting, number of coaches and set up a strength of schedule format similar to the NFL. The CFB playoff can be fixed but you need rules that provide parity and you need to stop treating all programs like they are on equal ground. They are NOT.

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CFB playoffs will be fair when the P5 conferences leave the NCAA become 4 conferences and just take the top 2 from each conference. It's not a hard concept, it's essentially the playoff structure every other sports league or association uses. No excuses or conference members trying to piggyback off the success of one school.

AGAZ03 said:

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It's not like the NFL where there is parity in salary cap, a draft system and schedule formatting.

The reality is there are 120 FBS teams and only about 15 (including us) can seriously invest in facilities, coaching and recruiting-NIL.

I agree that the current format is ***** So why not take the top 32 programs out and create the elite level conference with its own schedule and playoff.

I would also set up rules on recruiting, number of coaches and set up a strength of schedule format similar to the NFL. The CFB playoff can be fixed but you need rules that provide parity and you need to stop treating all programs like they are on equal ground. They are NOT.

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Oh, I also believe you will see more parity one day when it comes to the programs competing on a more equal level. All of that will come with the professionalization of college football.

"The reality is there are 120 FBS teams and only about 15 (including us) can seriously invest in facilities, coaching and recruiting-NIL."

So, what's the problem?

Not only CFB, but generally LIFE isn't fair.

It's all about pivoting and coping.

Why does everything have to be "fair"?

FarmerJohn said:

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Why does everything have to be "fair"?

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It certainly doesn't have to be. But, looking at college football from a 30,000 feet point-of-view, it's in the best interest of the game if there is less certainty in the annual outcome and if more teams truly had a shot at a title. Hey, as an Aggie, I am glad that we are one of the few teams that theoretically could win a title. But, I can appreciate why the OP feels as he does.

No one Is advocating for it to be fair. The point is that it's not fair and in the current state it's hardly a playoff. So let's stop calling it a playoff. In the NFL you have schedule formatting that dictates division winners play each other the following year, that builds parity.


As for Cincinnati, there are about 20 teams that would go undefeated with their schedule. Out of the 15 or so teams I referenced above, we play 4-5 of them each year. Have the elite play the elite on a regular basis would create some parity.

I'm all in favor of a 4 conference structure with its own playoff of 8 teams and forces cross divisional games similar to the NFL that creates balanced scheduling.

We live in a world that has Georgia and Vanderbilt playing in the same conference every year. How could you ever make that "fair"? And why should the playoffs be any different?

Want to be a championship caliber team? Then commit the same resources as the teams who are.

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BMX Bandit said:

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There's a league you may like. It's called NFL.

Stop trying to make college football like.

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Which is why I'd be in favor of eliminating the playoffs altogether and just going back to the AP and coaches' poll. I truly believe they did just as good a job of selecting a real champion.

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LOL….seriously? The polls are crap, especially early in the year.

Sully Dog said:

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Cincy faired pretty well against Alabama. I guess they will be one of the 15.

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218 total yards
2/12 on 3rd downs
No touchdowns
Lost by 21

Not close

The issue is one program and one program only-Alabama. Other than Alabama, there are WAY more
than 15 programs who could have a legitimate chance to be in the playoff each and every year. A&M, OU, Ohio St, Michigan, Michigan St, USC, UCLA, Notre Dame, Georgia, Ole Miss, Tennessee, Florida, Texas, Clemson, Florida St, Penn St, Auburn, Washington(who made the CFP in 2016), North Carolina(has a top 8 recruiting class now), Stanford, LSU, Oklahoma St(won more than we have over the past 15 years) and many others. If Clemson(who was an afterthought in college football for decades) was able to build a program that won 2 national championships(during Bama's run) and build a consistent top tier program then ANY of these programs(and others) are capable of doing the same. However, there is ONE program and one program alone that stands in the way and that is simply Alabama. They are a dynasty and for what it's worth, there have been dynasties in the NFL as well DESPITE the expanded playoff system.

Cincinnati is an example of what's wrong with the system. They played no one outside of ND with a pulse. There are 20 teams that would go unseated with that schedule.

Overall they were a very solid top 20 team with a bunch of seniors who grew up over 4 years. They had a decent year with a crap schedule.

Once again take the top 32 teams and force parity through schedule formatting like the NFL.

Once again, no.

Sully Dog said:

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Cincy faired pretty well against Alabama. I guess they will be one of the 15.

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What game were you watching? Is that sarcasm?

The NFL system is still flawed too. The Patriot's run was one of the greatest in the history of football. It would be disingenuous, though, to not admit they benefited greatly from one of the worst divisions in football. The Jets, Dolphins and Bills offered very little resistance ensuring New England a playoff spot every year.

Quit whining. Just admit you're not a college football fan and are only here for the arguments.

AGAZ03 said:

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It's not like the NFL where there is parity in salary cap, a draft system and schedule formatting.

The reality is there are 120 FBS teams and only about 15 (including us) can seriously invest in facilities, coaching and recruiting-NIL.

I agree that the current format is ***** So why not take the top 32 programs out and create the elite level conference with its own schedule and playoff.

I would also set up rules on recruiting, number of coaches and set up a strength of schedule format similar to the NFL. The CFB playoff can be fixed but you need rules that provide parity and you need to stop treating all programs like they are on equal ground. They are NOT.

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A best of 12 format will be better than auto-bids for conference champions or an NFL-style playoff.

That doesn't remake the CFB game. Four is too few because it gives the network and the committee too much power.

I'll further note you're putting up a straw man. It isn't literally anyone's argument.

Sully Dog said:

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Cincy faired pretty well against Alabama. I guess they will be one of the 15.

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Had Bama played clean it would have been 40 something to 6.

An 8-team CFP would fare better.

BMX Bandit said:

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There's a league you may like. It's called NFL.

Stop trying to make college football like.

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I too would prefer the system when guys can just change teams each year via a transfer portal and opt out of a season whenever they feel like they are done with football. Coaches don't want to finish out the season...that's fine.

I like that teams in P5 conferences can self-schedule 33% of their schedule with non-competitive cupcakes. If it were up to me, each SEC team would only have 6 conference games and then get 5 cupcakes on there so that more teams could have post-season opportunities. I will be against playing 10 SEC games on schedule because it hurts the potential seeding for the AutoZone Liberty Bowl.

I also am fond of the fact that I can predict the next 3 years of semi-finalist in college football, and be pretty certain I will see Alabama, Georgia, Clemson, Ohio State in at least 9 of those 12 spots. Maybe USC and an SEC West team might sneak in there. Or Michigan/Notre Dame.

Wow, I just watched someone hit an offensive player really hard. Did their helmets touch? If so, that defender should be out the rest of this game and possibly the next one too.

I like that in one thread, I can proclaim the great thing about college football is that every week is a playoff, but then in another, complain that a 2-loss team should have been in the playoffs over a 0 loss team. I can justify cupcakes during the regular season, but am strictly against expansion of playoffs in another because "Who wants to watch blowouts?"

We are one of the Top 15 teams that didn't place in the top 15…

MaroonStain said:

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An 8-team CFP would fare better.

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Then we would have six teams that didn't belong.

Sully Dog said:

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Cincy faired pretty well against Alabama. I guess they will be one of the 15.

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Cincy just got blown out by the worst Bama team I have seen in the playoffs.

Every year, seems to be more and more getting steered towards whoever ESPN wants.
Also more and more school ad's on committee which just seems to make it a popularity contest.

CFB

Where opinions mean more than playing the games.

Harry Lime said:

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Quit whining. Just admit you're not a college football fan and are only here for the arguments.

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I'm a college football fan who wants a top tier level of conferences and playoffs where teams are forced to play competitive games throughout the season so they cannot coast.

I'm okay that it's unfair. I'm looking for parity in schedule.