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SEC teams in a 12 team playoff

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strbrst777
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Depending on scheduling and records of a 16 team SEC, the SEC potentially could have ? teams in 12 team playoff. 4? 5? 6?
Bluecat_Aggie94
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A lot depends on what we do with the schedule. You can't deny that 8 conference games has protected the SEC a bit, but are we going to be able to keep that?
Bunk Moreland
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once the SEC gets to 16, there will be 4 16-team conferences imo and we'll be going to a 16 team playoff.
aggiehawg
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Bluecat_Aggie94 said:

A lot depends on what we do with the schedule. You can't deny that 8 conference games has protected the SEC a bit, but are we going to be able to keep that?
No. Eight game schedule cannot remain after the two kids from the Big XII are added. Forget the playoffs for a second but gone are the days where the SEC could fulfill their bowl commitments as well. Which will be another casualty of the expansion of the playoff--killing off bowl games.

Twelve teams in the playoff is completely ridiculous. A very bad idea that will ultimately kill the CFP for a new regime, whatever the hell that might be. Ultimately what killed the BCS was the LSU/Bama rematch.

Well in a 12 team playoff there will be multiple rematches.

Here's what a 12 team playoff might look in 2021: Link

#12 LSU would play #5 Georgia

#11 Wisconsin would play #6 Notre Dame

#10 Iowa State would play #7 A&M

#9 North Carolina would play #8 Cincinnati

Bama, Clemson, Ohio State and Sooners get a bye for being 1-4 respectively.

Round 2:

Sooners play Georgia
Ohio State plays Notre Dame
Clemson plays A&M
Bama plays North Carolina

Round 3

Ohio State plays A&M
Bama plays Georgia

See the problem? I also see having to play that many extra games after a full season will physically hurt the players. Four or five extra games, if in a CCG?
Iraq2xVeteran
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Once the SEC has 16 teams, they will implement 9-game conference schedules. 10-2 will probably be good enough in a 12-team playoff format. The number of SEC playoff teams will depend on how many teams hit the 10-2 or better mark.
My Name Is Judge
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So college football wants to copy the dog**** nfl setup


Iowaggie
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I've posted elsewhere that depending on what other conferences do and the number of conference games the SEC plays, this could actually really hurt the SEC in the current 12-team proposed model.

1. OU & Texas lose their much easier path.
2. More conference games means more losses.
3. The average level of competition just got a little higher
4. The playoff committee has basically just counted losses for years.
Mule_lx
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How many semi final games have been competitive? Why do they want to expand when those games are blowouts? It hasn't been evenly matched or interesting. Adding more subpar teams is going to decrease the quality.
aggiehawg
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Mule_lx said:

How many semi final games have been competitive? Why do they want to expand when those games are blowouts? It hasn't been evenly matched or interesting. Adding more subpar teams is going to decrease the quality.
Fully agree. Also will be rematches galore.

ETA: This mock up of what a 12 team playoff would look like in 2021. The seminal final games could be Ohio State versus A&M and Bama versus Georgia.

Link
Craigy
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Who cares? You still waving the SEC pennant? I just need the Texas Aggies to be in.
whatthehey78
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Mule_lx said:

How many semi final games have been competitive? Why do they want to expand when those games are blowouts? It hasn't been evenly matched or interesting. Adding more subpar teams is going to decrease the quality.
Sadly "quality" isn't the driving force. Mrs. Hawg's comments above are "right on".
Alexander, Caesar, Charlemagne, and myself founded empires; but upon what foundation did we rest the creations of our genius? Upon force! But Jesus Christ founded His upon love; and at this hour millions of men would die for Him. - Napoleon Bonaparte
whatthehey78
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whatthehey78 said:

Mule_lx said:

How many semi final games have been competitive? Why do they want to expand when those games are blowouts? It hasn't been evenly matched or interesting. Adding more subpar teams is going to decrease the quality.
Sadly "quality" isn't the driving force. Mrs. Hawg's comments above are "right on". - as usual. (ETA)
Alexander, Caesar, Charlemagne, and myself founded empires; but upon what foundation did we rest the creations of our genius? Upon force! But Jesus Christ founded His upon love; and at this hour millions of men would die for Him. - Napoleon Bonaparte
PascalsWager
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Both the Sips and us have the biggest upsides in our division. If we cut out all the other Texas schools from the money, we can both easily be good AND make the playoffs annually.

Ironically, for those that don't want to play the game, we could definitely be playing a lot of meaningless Thanksgiving games against the Horns. Because if we both come in with 10 wins, the result won't matter.
Mayor West
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Mule_lx said:

How many semi final games have been competitive? Why do they want to expand when those games are blowouts? It hasn't been evenly matched or interesting. Adding more subpar teams is going to decrease the quality.

But the first round games will be
Gaius Julius Bevo
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PascalsWager said:

Both the Sips and us have the biggest upsides in our division. If we cut out all the other Texas schools from the money, we can both easily be good AND make the playoffs annually.

Ironically, for those that don't want to play the game, we could definitely be playing a lot of meaningless Thanksgiving games against the Horns. Because if we both come in with 10 wins, the result won't matter.
I hope ya'll get to keep your Thanksgiving game with LSU and perhaps we can start a Turkey weekend series with Arkansas.
strbrst777
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The question was the number of SEC teams in a 12 team playoff. Was not about "quality" or if 12 is the right number.
Iowaggie
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PascalsWager said:

Both the Sips and us have the biggest upsides in our division. If we cut out all the other Texas schools from the money, we can both easily be good AND make the playoffs annually.

Ironically, for those that don't want to play the game, we could definitely be playing a lot of meaningless Thanksgiving games against the Horns. Because if we both come in with 10 wins, the result won't matter.

But more often than not, it's more likely both teams won't be, and for those who want extra drama, if both teams sit at 9 wins, the game could end up being a de facto playoff game.

IF 6 conference champs are still guaranteed (big if), the 6 at-large come from the remaining 4 power conferences, I don't think only 3 losses gets an SEC team in. I think the committee with take a 3 loss PAC, ACC, or Big Ten who finishes top 2 in conference over an SEC team finishing 3rd or 4th if they have the same number of losses.

The SEC teams playing a 9 game conference schedule are to have to deal with more losses during the season.
aggiehawg
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The SEC teams playing a 9 game conference schedule are to have to deal with more losses during the season.
The PAC and the B1G already play 9 conference games.
ghowe
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Admittedly change is hard but I don't see the path forward making CF better at least from a fan perspective.

But seeing as how we are on this path my 2 cents..

Try to align some kind of parity among 4, 16 team conferences

Play: 1 tune up game, 1 meaningful out of conference game. 8 conference season games, a conference championship game and then a seeded 12 team tournament. I think 12 is way too many but it seems that's where it is...
CowboyGirl
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PascalsWager said:

Both the Sips and us have the biggest upsides in our division. If we cut out all the other Texas schools from the money, we can both easily be good AND make the playoffs annually.

Ironically, for those that don't want to play the game, we could definitely be playing a lot of meaningless Thanksgiving games against the Horns. Because if we both come in with 10 wins, the result won't matter.
And the millionnaire players will rest themselves for the playoffs.
Iowaggie
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aggiehawg said:

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The SEC teams playing a 9 game conference schedule are to have to deal with more losses during the season.
The PAC and the B1G already play 9 conference games.

Yes, but I'm referring to the fact that if the SEC goes from 8 to 9, the conference will have more total losses than in the past.

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