NIL, to my eyes anyway, looks like a disaster for the small(er) schools currently fronting a football program. How do they compete against schools with bigger, richer fan bases?

Does anyone else see this causing a lot of programs to be dropped altogether? Plus, the ripple effect of the funding for other sports at those schools evaporating won't be good either.

there are still scholly limits and transfer portals to worry about.

Don't know. But I'm looking forward to the first time players offer to buy a coach out.

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there are still scholly limits and transfer portals to worry about.

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The rules on that would be interesting. I could see some highly paid players giving up their scholly to free it up for other players...sort of like Tom Brady giving up salary to bring other guys in under the cap.

This really is the wild west right now.

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NIL, to my eyes anyway, looks like a disaster for the small(er) schools currently fronting a football program. How do they compete against schools with bigger, richer fan bases?

Does anyone else see this causing a lot of programs to be dropped altogether? Plus, the ripple effect of the funding for other sports at those schools evaporating won't be good either.

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They will find a way or not. This would be more of a concern if it wasn't already a completely un-level playing field and if any of this money were coming from the University itself (which as I understand it's not). Keep in mind many universities can't afford to compete today and lose money on football. This feels like an exercise to find a way to blame NIL for a problem that probably does not exist.

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Squadron7 said:

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NIL, to my eyes anyway, looks like a disaster for the small(er) schools currently fronting a football program. How do they compete against schools with bigger, richer fan bases?

Does anyone else see this causing a lot of programs to be dropped altogether? Plus, the ripple effect of the funding for other sports at those schools evaporating won't be good either.

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They will find a way or not. This would be more of a concern if it wasn't already a completely un-level playing field and if any of this money were coming from the University itself (which as I understand it's not). Keep in mind many universities can't afford to compete today and lose money on football. This feels like an exercise to find a way to blame NIL for a problem that probably does not exist.

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But if the sole purpose of college athletics is to make money then what is the argument for having them at all? All of the other sports...with the exception of maybe Men's basketball (at some schools, anyway) lose money. If there is not an academic, student-development argument to be made for a sport then why have them at all?

Should Drama/Theater Arts programs be done away with because they can't support themselves putting on plays for the public?

This NIL is gonna be a s**tshow.

I hope I am wrong but the future of college football is bleak.

Only if the bigger programs want them gone. They already barely compete.

Consider the contrary case: some schools may have mega-donors with scruples (!) about using bagmen and spending money on facilities. These mega-donors may have up until now been sitting on the sidelines. Since you can now basically pay players (indirectly), they may decide to finally jump in and begin taking some players here, some players there --I'm thinking high threes and low fours, who might not get attention and/or NIL money at bigger programs (irony: big-time "names" suck up money at some places). Suddenly, even some doormats have some potential to score big upsets more often.

Far-fetched? Consider the real-world case of Oregon. Now think of what they could have done had NIL money been legal back when Nike first got involved...

Prediction: some doormats are going to suddenly become middle-tier players.

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Perhaps. But it is a zero sum game. For every doormat moving up someone moves down.

My guess is the overall trend will be that smaller underdogs will fare worse and worse against the big schools rather than better...or even holding steady.

I think the Group of 5 teams are going get hammered. I would not be surprised to see most the MAC members dropping to FCS or even to D2. Currently these teams are heavily subsidized the student fees. As students concerns rise about debt, students will loss desire to pay athletic fees for games they could care less about. There will always be a school out there with a mega donor, but now the price of being a player has gone up with NIL. I even think it will trickle down to some of the Big 12 schools.

tu

Are they still even a thang?

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Are they still even a thang

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In the eyes of their current students, nope. Last time I looked they have 11,000 student tickets

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there are still scholly limits and transfer portals to worry about.

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The rules on that would be interesting. I could see some highly paid players giving up their scholly to free it up for other players...sort of like Tom Brady giving up salary to bring other guys in under the cap.

This really is the wild west right now.

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I never thought of that and I doubt it happens much but players could certainly do that especially to get their friends a scholarship.

I think a school like SMU who paid there way to the top could certainly do it again. They have donors with money and a big city to pull marketing money from a diverse business community.

If you were a quarterback who could be a third string backup that never sees the field at a big school, or a starter/superstar at a small school, which one would have more NIL appeal?

Would you make more NIL money as the third string backup at A&M, or the starter at Texas State?

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Consider the contrary case: some schools may have mega-donors with scruples (!) about using bagmen and spending money on facilities. These mega-donors may have up until now been sitting on the sidelines. Since you can now basically pay players (indirectly), they may decide to finally jump in and begin taking some players here, some players there --I'm thinking high threes and low fours, who might not get attention and/or NIL money at bigger programs (irony: big-time "names" suck up money at some places). Suddenly, even some doormats have some potential to score big upsets more often.

Far-fetched? Consider the real-world case of Oregon. Now think of what they could have done had NIL money been legal back when Nike first got involved...

Prediction: some doormats are going to suddenly become middle-tier players.

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Now apply that to basketball where the impact of great players is amplified.

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Nike money already bought Oregon great facilities and paid high coaching salaries. Nike money already has Oregon punching above weightclass.

Now, some genius will probably find a way to fuse NIL and real marketing in a way that breaks even or makes a profit. That genius's program will benefit for a while until the rest figure it out.

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Nike money already bought Oregon great facilities and paid high coaching salaries. Nike money already has Oregon punching above weightclass.

Now, some genius will probably find a way to fuse NIL and real marketing in a way that breaks even or makes a profit. That genius's program will benefit for a while until the rest figure it out.

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They've played for the NC twice in the last 10 years or so, we've not been in that weight class in the last 80+ years.

Honestly things will be more or less the same competition wise IMO.

Lets say the power conference schools were getting 90% of the top 500 5 4 3 star players. That number probably won't change much.

In the end, these guys want to get to the pros, and opportunity to start, a good coaching staff should be more prioritized than NIL. No significant moneys coming to you if you're on the bench. Unless you're a bama qb.