OT
Kick a 41 yard FG on 2nd down w over 2 minutes to go.
They cant stop you
Take a knee a couple times to kill time if for some reason you don't want more yards

the stupidity of these millionaire coaches much resembles the millionaire execs I work with every day. GD dumbasses rule this world.

I wouldn't knock Kliff. He's turned that team around in year 2.

and they just beat best team in nfc...

I'm not commenting on Kliff as a coach, simply pointing out possibly the worst clock management in history. Sumlin UCLA might be close but Kliff had nothing to do w that.

It was a bad choice but he also just coached his team to a win over one of the best teams in the NFL this year. He's doing fine.

Agree. Still inexcusable FG

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and they just beat best team in nfc...

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Missed this. A team with Seattle's defense far from NFC's best. You can make a lot of money if you're right.

Better to be lucky than good lol. Dude got JFF, Mahomes, and KM. Sucks for Bill O Brien and Mike McCarthy that they can't lose games looking like Ryan Gosling too.

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thomas20:29 said:

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and they just beat best team in nfc...

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Missed this. A team with Seattle's defense far from NFC's best. You can make a lot of money if you're right.

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So who is the NFC's best team? If it's not Seattle then they are number 2

Cramp00 said:

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thomas20:29 said:

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and they just beat best team in nfc...

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Missed this. A team with Seattle's defense far from NFC's best. You can make a lot of money if you're right.

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i don't disagree after tonight. please post your website so i can subscribe to it.

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/30148598/nfl-power-rankings-week-7-1-32-poll-plus-team-most-impactful-injury

ESPN has a 5-0 team ranked #1
Undefeated Cincinnati ranked above TAMU

Which field goal are you talking about? I wasn't aware there a controversy about clock management by KK.

I mean, did you read my OP? I can quote it for you but that seems unnecessary

Arizona Cardinals safety Budda Baker made Seattle Seahawks quarterback Russell Wilson pay for floating a pass intended for running back Chris Carson -- but Seattle wide receiver DK Metcalf saved the day. Baker snagged the pass out of midair while in midjump at the Arizona 2-yard line and took off along the sideline with Wilson in pursuit. But also pursuing Baker the entire time was Metcalf, who passed Wilson in a dead sprint at the Seattle 40 after being 10.89 yards away from Baker at the time of the pick. Metcalf was able to bring down Baker at the 8-yard-line, preventing a touchdown in more ways than one.

The Cardinals couldn't get in the end zone despite starting their next possession at the Seattle 8. They got down to the 2 but got pushed back to the 3, and then coach Kliff Kingsbury called for a fourth-down play instead of taking the field goal. The play was blown up by the Seahawks and quarterback Kyler Murray had to throw it away.

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/30193361/seahawks-dk-metcalf-runs-cardinals-budda-baker-prevents-pick-six

If Kingsbury had taken the points after a 90-yard interception return, the Cardinals would have won 37-34 instead at the end of regulation. I thought that decision was going to come back to bite them in a shootout. Then in overtime, he opted to kick a field goal on 2nd and 15. He had two more opportunities to shorten the field goal distance. Despite Kingsbury's questionable decisions, the Cardinals outlasted the Seahawks.

The NFC West is the best division in the NFL.
Seattle Seahawks 5-1
Arizona Cardinals 5-2
Los Angeles Rams 4-2 (pending Monday Night Football game against Bears)
San Francisco 49ers 4-3

I'm pretty sure that field goal wins the game. What's the clock got to do with it?

He left too much time. Duh.

What I'm saying is if they miss, (which they did), you leave enough time for the opponent to score.

aggiephoenix02 said:

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What I'm saying is if they miss, (which they did), you leave enough time for the opponent to score.

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I'm not sure if you're being sarcastic, but if not ...

what you're saying is that you don't understand how NFL overtime works ...

What am I not understanding?

Edit: I'm not being a dick, I'm genuinely wondering what I'm missing. Are you sure you aren't the one who isn't understanding?

I can think of many "worst in history" moments. This is not that.

But That field goal on 2nd down was more like bed wetting. Nerves got the best of them.

Calling the timeout froze his own kicker. He readily admitted he was a dumba$$ but his team bailed him out.

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aggiephoenix02 said:

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What I'm saying is if they miss, (which they did), you leave enough time for the opponent to score.

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I'm not sure if you're being sarcastic, but if not ...

what you're saying is that you don't understand how NFL overtime works ...

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How is Phoenix wrong here? Are you sure it's Phoenix who is wrong?

The main thing I took away from the game was what a phenomenal job of coaching Kliff is doing and how hard his team is playing. His great play calling all year has also been hard to miss.

Oh we've all read your post. I asked a simple question because I didn't see the game, only saw a bunch of made and missed field goals on ESPN.

Clock mismanagement was not mentioned, but freezing your own kicker was a hot topic.

Engage in the conversation. All NFL coaches are millionaires and there is clock mismanagement every Sunday. Not sure your example fits your agenda of bashing KK - who won a come from behind game.

Since you cannot add any clarity, I'll assume you don't know what you're talking about.

Uhhh, I'd say Sumlin's A&M contract extension way back when is up there with the worst football decisions made. Set the program back more than some are willing to admit.

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ESPN has a 5-0 team ranked #1
Undefeated Cincinnati ranked above TAMU

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Sorry to say but Cincinnati is 4-0 and just blew out a ranked team on the road. We struggled with Vandy at home and got blown up by Bama. There are very few cross conference games so how do you really know how the two teams compare this year? I get the SEC is typically stronger but the Vandy and Bama games are gonna haunt us. If cincy and osu are undefeated come end of year, they'll probably be ranked ahead of us (unless LSU gets it together and we beat them). Nobody left on our schedule is really that good (based on sec teams beating each other up). We need to win them all and we need some style points (blow them out).

if we keep winning, that vandy game won't mean anything other than its a W.

Cramp00 said:

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OT
Kick a 41 yard FG on 2nd down w over 2 minutes to go.
They cant stop you
Take a knee a couple times to kill time if for some reason you don't want more yards

the stupidity of these millionaire coaches much resembles the millionaire execs I work with every day. GD dumbasses rule this world.

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I reviewed the OT plays and if Arizona made the FG the game would have been over, since Seattle had already had an OT possession

I agree the clock management in OT was bad. For those saying had they made the first field goal in OT the game is over, you are correct. The issue the OP is raising is that if you miss it (which they did) you leave an extra almost minute and a half for Seattle to go back down the field to kick the winning FG rather than having time run out and have a tied game.
Ironically, he was bailed out by his own bad clock management when Seattle turned the ball over.
We haven't even gotten to the issue of usually with it being only second down, you would try to get closer to increase the odds of making the kick (and leaving the opponent less time if you miss)

He did want to risk a fumble by trying to get closer.

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Cramp00 said:

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thomas20:29 said:

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and they just beat best team in nfc...

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Missed this. A team with Seattle's defense far from NFC's best. You can make a lot of money if you're right.

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So who is the NFC's best team? If it's not Seattle then they are number 2

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The NFC West is still up for grabs. Even if the Seahawks win the NFC West, they probably won't get the NFC's No. 1 seed. With the new NFL playoff format, only the top seed from each conference gets a first round bye.

For now, I would say the Tampa Bay Buccaneers are the NFC's best team, and I am a 49ers fan. Yes, the Buccaneers have 2 losses, but they crushed the previously undefeated Green Bay Packers 38-10 and the Las Vegas Raiders 45-20 over the past two weeks. If the Buccaneers finish with the No. 1 seed, they would have a first round bye and home-field advantage throughout the NFC playoffs and the Super Bowl.

If the FG kicker did his job and made a rather simple 41 yard field goal, no one would be saying a thing. The Cards just beat an undefeated Seahawks team, I believe KK deserves some credit for that. He's doing just fine.

Cramp00 said:

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the stupidity of these millionaire coaches much resembles the millionaire execs I work with every day. GD dumbasses rule this world.

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Yeah, no doubt all those millionaire execs are dumb ...

Kansas Kid said:

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I agree the clock management in OT was bad. For those saying had they made the first field goal in OT the game is over, you are correct. The issue the OP is raising is that if you miss it (which they did) you leave an extra almost minute and a half for Seattle to go back down the field to kick the winning FG rather than having time run out and have a tied game.
Ironically, he was bailed out by his own bad clock management when Seattle turned the ball over.
We haven't even gotten to the issue of usually with it being only second down, you would try to get closer to increase the odds of making the kick (and leaving the opponent less time if you miss)

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How many more yards you think the Cardinals would've gotten if they ran another play? Maybe 5 yds max.

A 41-yard vs 36-yard FG wouldn't be that much of a difference to an NFL kicker. At least not so much that you would risk a turnover or penalty to push you back even farther.

Cramp00 said:

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OT
Kick a 41 yard FG on 2nd down w over 2 minutes to go.
They cant stop you
Take a knee a couple times to kill time if for some reason you don't want more yards

the stupidity of these millionaire coaches much resembles the millionaire execs I work with every day. GD dumbasses rule this world.

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Except for that 7 yard sack on the play before the FG.