I know "who's" is wrong..

That's the Johnny we knew, that won the Heisman. It's not a picture of him in a Brown's uniform or partying. As an Aggie, he is a legacy. The Texas A&M program can't control what he does after he leaves, just like t.u. couldn't control how Ricky Williams smoked his career away.

Why is Subway Jarrett in pic with Johnny ??? That's a real dumb idea. Johnny may have some problems but he's no chester!

It's whose.

HTH

Hating this is like blaming Sherman for recruiting him

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That's the Johnny we knew, that won the Heisman. It's not a picture of him in a Brown's uniform or partying. As an Aggie, he is a legacy. The Texas A&M program can't control what he does after he leaves, just like t.u. couldn't control how Ricky Williams smoked his career away.

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I get what you're saying. I really do. But, there has never been anyone that I have watched play the game like he did when he was here. I remember hoping our kick and punt returns and running plays would fall apart so that JFF could maximize his yards on third and a mile - because that's what he did. I never doubted him. It was the craziest thing I've ever seen. I loved it. It wasn't even football. It was something else.

I hope he pulls up. But if he doesn't - he will always be an Aggie legend to me.

Don't know, but it was a good idea. He was one of the greatest Aggie players ever, regardless of what happened to him later.

Aggies support fellow aggies, we don't abandon them just because they have problems, regardless of how severe those problems are. I believe that is the "Christian" thing to do as well. You have a problem with that OP?

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That's the Johnny we knew, that won the Heisman. It's not a picture of him in a Brown's uniform or partying. As an Aggie, he is a legacy. The Texas A&M program can't control what he does after he leaves, just like t.u. couldn't control how Ricky Williams smoked his career away.

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Exactly! You shouldnt regret the things that were great. Johnny was an amazing thing for A&M football. You cant forget it or be ashamed of it. It is unfortunate the road he has gone down but that doesnt diminish the things he brought to the program and the university. TMZ loves him. Hopefully, he gets everything together but honestly, who can blame him for the road he has gone down.

I'm not suggesting we disown him, and I don't disagree, he will always be an Aggie Legacy.

Next time we have a Heisman, how about we wait about 5 or 10 years before we paint a 22 year old on a 50' wall.

This is kinda like when my wife just tries to find something to ***** about.

and she's probably right...

Should we hide his Heisman Trophy too?

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Should we hide his Heisman Trophy too?

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50' shrine >>>>>>> a trophy in a case

Why is it red?

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I get what you're saying. I really do. But, there has never been anyone that I have watched play the game like he did when he was here. I remember hoping our kick and punt returns and running plays would fall apart so that JFF could maximize his yards on third and a mile - because that's what he did. I never doubted him. It was the craziest thing I've ever seen. I loved it. It wasn't even football. It was something else.

I hope he pulls up. But if he doesn't - he will always be an Aggie legend to me.

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This times 2003.

I've never felt as confident in a single player to take care of things the way I did with Johnny. There was never a situation where we had the ball and needed a score to win when I didn't believe he could get it done. The only thing that has ever come close to that level of certainty I've had in a single player was Dirk in the 2011 playoffs.

It was a special time, even if it was only a brief one. I'll never forget how fun those two years were.

Get a life. Best ever in Aggieland. Pray and pull for and quit letting the left wing haters bend your brain. Have of you sound like your going to vote for Hellary.

He has made a lot of terrible decisions, but most have been of the self destructive variety. College football has provided us with numerous examples of truly loathsome people who committed heinous crimes. He may be a case study in poor judgment, but he isn't a monster.

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That's the Johnny we knew, that won the Heisman. It's not a picture of him in a Brown's uniform or partying. As an Aggie, he is a legacy. The Texas A&M program can't control what he does after he leaves, just like t.u. couldn't control how Ricky Williams smoked his career away.

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Ricky is #29 in NFL all time leading rushers....

Hey Uncle Joe Stalin, we're not going to erase him from history just because you don't like his personal decisions that have absolutely nothing to do with you. Get a life.

One of our greatest athletes to ever wear maroon will always be honored in places where we honor athletes who wore maroon. I don't know if I can explain it any simpler than that.

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Get a life. Best ever in Aggieland. Pray and pull for and quit letting the left wing haters bend your brain. Have of you sound like your going to vote for Hellary.

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Yea, because more than half of them will.

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That's the Johnny we knew, that won the Heisman. It's not a picture of him in a Brown's uniform or partying. As an Aggie, he is a legacy. The Texas A&M program can't control what he does after he leaves, just like t.u. couldn't control how Ricky Williams smoked his career away.

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We can't erase what he did for Texas A&M. We need to embrace the success he had on the field and hope he comes around at some point.

Someone has a great eye. The picture, colors, and placement are on point - good share OP.

"Mr. Rock, this interview is necessary, but very difficult for me. Please act accordingly."

Ol' Rock knew that the last act of kindness he could offer was to claim no bond. He knew he would break what was left of the man before him if he pronounced two words: Johnny Football. Roark answered: "Yes, Mr. Manziel."

Manziel picked up four typewritten sheets of paper and handed them across the desk:

"Please read this and sign it if it meets with your approval."

"What is it?"

"Your contract to design the Manziel Building.

Ol' Rock put the sheets down. He could not hold them. He could not look at them.

"Please listen carefully, Mr. Rock. This must be explained and understood. I wish to undertake the construction of the Manziel Building at once. I wish it to be the tallest structure of the city. Do not discuss with me the question of whether this is timely or economically advisable. I wish it built. It will be used--which is all that concerns you. It will house the Heisman Trophy, the autographed Drake poster, and my picture with LeBron. The rest of the space will be rented. I have sufficient standing left to guarantee that. You need have no fear of erecting a useless structure. I shall send you a written statement on all details and requirements. The rest will be up to you. You will design the building as you wish. Your decisions will be final. They will not require my approval. You will have full charge and complete authority. This is stated in the contract. But I wish it understood that I shall not have to see you. There will be an agent to represent me in all technical and financial matters. You will deal with him. You will hold all further conferences with him. Let him know what contractors you prefer chosen for the job. If you find it necessary to communicate with me, you will do it through my agent. You are not to expect or attempt to see me. Should you do so, you will be refused admittance. I do not wish to speak to you. I do not wish ever to see you again. If you are prepared to comply with these conditions, please read the contract and sign it."

Roark reached for a pen and signed without looking at the paper.

Manziel signed the sheets and handed one to Ol' Rock. "This is your copy." Ol' Rock slipped the paper into his pocket.

Manziel picked up his copy of the contract, folded it and put it, with a precise gesture, into his inside coat pocket. He said, with no change in the tone of his voice:

"I told you once that this building was to be a monument to my life. There is nothing to commemorate now. The Manziel Building will have nothing--except what you give it."

He rose to his feet, indicating that the interview was ended. Ol' Rock got up and inclined his head in parting. He held his head down a moment longer than a formal bow required.

At the door he stopped and turned. Manziel stood behind his desk without moving. They looked at each other.

Manziel said:

"Build it as a monument to that spirit which is yours...and could have been mine."

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This is kinda like when my wife just tries to find something to ***** about.

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Please turn in your Legendary tag to staph immediately for blatent violation of rule #1. You know better. This is not a zoo after all. We are not animals. Humans follow rules.

I'm exempt from the bull**** football forum rules.

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This is kinda like when my wife just tries to find something to ***** about.

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Please turn in your Legendary tag to staph immediately for blatent violation of rule #1. You know better. This is not a zoo after all. We are not animals. Humans follow rules.

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Shut up.

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This is kinda like when my wife just tries to find something to ***** about.

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Please turn in your Legendary tag to staph immediately for blatent violation of rule #1. You know better. This is not a zoo after all. We are not animals. Humans follow rules.

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It's STX...without knowing what either of them look like, we can probably assume he outkicked his coverage.

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That's the Johnny we knew, that won the Heisman. It's not a picture of him in a Brown's uniform or partying. As an Aggie, he is a legacy. The Texas A&M program can't control what he does after he leaves, just like t.u. couldn't control how Ricky Williams smoked his career away.

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Uh Ricky looks like the model of respectability compared to this DB...

Sad but true... Johnny lost a lot of folks with the #hiDad stunt. Not that he cares, he doesn't just burn bridges, he goes nuclear winter on them...

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This is kinda like when my wife just tries to find something to ***** about.

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Dude, she does the same with me.

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This is kinda like when my wife just tries to find something to ***** about.

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Dude, she does the same with me.

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I thought it was just me she did that to.

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This is kinda like when my wife just tries to find something to ***** about.

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Please turn in your Legendary tag to staph immediately for blatent violation of rule #1. You know better. This is not a zoo after all. We are not animals. Humans follow rules.

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It's STX...without knowing what either of them look like, we can probably assume he outkicked his coverage.

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I can confirm. He did.