Obviously there are those rare recruits like Clowney, Adrian Peterson, Reggie Bush, etc. that turn out to be everything they are ranked to be in HS. However, there are some 5* and many many 4* that never quite pan out how they are predicted to turn out. Then of course there's guys like JFF and Colt McCoy that are overlooked 3*'s who turn out to be absolute studs.

I feel like we often get way too tied up in who has the highest rated recruiting class and who has the most 4 and 5 star players coming to their schools. In all honesty, what you're ranked in High School very rarely has anything to do with what kind of player you're going to be in college. It's all about work ethic and how well the coaching staff at that given school develops you as a player. Of course talent alone does have some to do with it, but if you don't have the right coaches in place to develop you into a player at the college level then you aren't going to amount to anything.

It's all fun and dandy that we have such a high ranked class that is likely to move even higher come Friday, however, if we can't get the right coaches in place, just exactly how good will those players turn out to be? Just something to think about as we move closer and closer to a Malik commitment and possible DC hire.

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Point being, and you typed for years....what was your point?

Mack Brown couldn't coach himself out of a wet paper bag and won a MNC because of recruiting 4 & 5 star talent. Bill Snyder is a rare exception to the recruiting standard in college ball and exactly MNC's does he have?

Malik's name shouldn't be mentioned in this post. He's not one of those five star guys, he is the best player in the state of Texas (or maybe Kyler). Maybe not all the ratings matter but this one does.

Stop caring so much about who is ranked what. If we can go get another 3* Johnny Football that drops us in the rankings but that our coaching staff can develop into a 5* caliber player then let's do it. I think rankings shouldn't come out until players have already played a season or two in college.

Oh and also how important it is to hire the right guy at DC. How good could Myles actually be if he had a mastermind who could utilize him in all of the right ways? He could be a top 3 most dominant player in CFB.

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Mack Brown couldn't coach himself out of a wet paper bag and won a MNC because of recruiting 4 & 5 star talent. Bill Snyder is a rare exception to the recruiting standard in college ball and exactly MNC's does he have?

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He made it to a MNC with a QB who was once a 3* that people tend to not care anything about these days. I beg to differ on that, and lord knows Greg Davis had absolutely nothing to do with it.

Also guys remember to hire good coaches that make good calls. Let's not focus on splash hires. Ain't that right OP?

Do some research on the percentages from each star category that are a success in college and get back to us. It's a numbers game. Of course there are 4 and 5 stars that don't pan out and 3 stars that win Heisman Trophies, but you have a much better chance to have a successful team with more 4 and 5 star recruits. Also, you can further back that up with the average recruiting class rankings of teams that won national championships.

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Do some research on the percentages from each star category that are a success in college and get back to us. It's a numbers game. Of course there are 4 and 5 stars that don't pan out and 3 stars that win Heisman Trophies, but you have a much better chance to have a successful team with more 4 and 5 star recruits. Also, you can further back that up with the average recruiting class rankings of teams that won national championships.

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5* guys seldom miss

You must be new here using so many words. What Ny Ag said

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Do some research on the percentages from each star category that are a success in college and get back to us. It's a numbers game. Of course there are 4 and 5 stars that don't pan out and 3 stars that win Heisman Trophies, but you have a much better chance to have a successful team with more 4 and 5 star recruits. Also, you can further back that up with the average recruiting class rankings of teams that won national championships.

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This.

Saban is working on yet another #1 class and. it's not just that he's #1, #2 isn't really even close.

Yeah, he can still be beat because anything can happen in a single game. But you better bring your A game. It makes it especially tough for those in his conference though, hard to beat a team like that consistently.

You do realize that rankings have nothing to do with who gets scholarship offers right? You realize that fans online caring about recruit rankings does not impact whatsoever who we recruit dont you?

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I think I remember them breaking out the last couple of 1st round picks and found that very few 5* players were included. That probably has a lot to do with there being a higher population of 4 and 5 star players out there.

Who are you talking to?

me? im talkin to da op

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I think I remember them breaking out the last couple of 1st round picks and found that very few 5* players were included. That probably has a lot to do with there being a higher population of 4 and 5 star players out there.

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last couple of 1st round picks? You do realize there are 32 of those a year, correct?

http://www.footballstudyhall.com/2014/2/5/5382140/recruiting-matters-why-the-sites-get-the-rankings-right

Wow those numbers are unbelievable. I would never have thought that recruiting would be such a good indicator of success. I would like to see the article updated thought because I bet a lot has changed since conference realignment.

Sometimes the recruiting ranking sites get it wrong, and sometimes they get it right. Sometimes there are players who have all the talent in the world, but just don't make it because of a lack of work ethic/and or do
something stupid. And then you have guys that are underrated because of their size/playstyle/lack of athletic ability, but work their asses off and compete. It's a coaches job to figure this stuff out... Most coaches don't rely on these recruiting rankings when ranking the players they recruit, and assess their talent themselves. But saying not to look at rankings is just dumb. We should get excited when we get guys like Kyler/Mack/Little, and when we have the opportunity for guys like Jefferson/Sheffield. Let's just hope we have a three star in this group that turns out to have 5-star talent.

Notice that Myles is the first 5 star we have had on defense in 15 years or so, which is the reason we have had some horrible defenses! Von ended his college career worthy of a 5 star and that was probably the only defense (his senior year) we have had that I would call "decent" since the late 90's!

http://www.footballstudyhall.com/2014/2/5/5382140/recruiting-matters-why-the-sites-get-the-rankings-right

the problem with recruiting rankings is that they are not adjusted the following year or years for attrition.

see A&M's 2013 recruiting class as a prime example. I think it was top 10 at the time, but with all the 4 stars kicked off the team -- it would barely be a top 20 class two years later

or another way to look at it...a program needs to get roughly 10 average to above average regular contributors from each recruiting class including 1 or 2 All-American candidates. And the more 4 & 5-star players you sign...the more margin for error when attrition occurs

Wow, beaten by an hour in a thread I didn't read. xD

This had been discussed on here many times, rook.

Cart McCoy was a stud?

Recruiting rankings are directly correlated to national championships. That's all that anyone really needs to know. :-P

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Regardless of how you feel about him, isn't be the winningest College QB ever with a BCS win and a National Championship appearance?

Kellen Moore of Boise State at 49-3 winningest QB as far as I know. JFYI

Cart did have a good run though!

Recruiting matters. But rankings are imperfect.

FIFY OP

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to everyone but delusional aggies, yes

OP was probably posted word for word when we were recruiting crap players a few decades ago.