EDIT: SORRY IF Y'ALL THOUGHT YOU'D BE GETTING SOME FREE INFO

Serious question though.

I don't know what the article says, but when I saw it on the front page my immediate reaction was:

it means A&M should have had some foresight and been proactive about their future.

In the days of social media, personal branding, and being an entertaining personality, who cares if the sips are down when potential recruits can be showcased regularly in the media.

The sip-ESPN deal is going to act as a buffer in recruiting for when they suffer through poor performance.

If A&M were my business it would feel like a death blow. How are we going to compete let alone catch-up?

And for all the Ags that are so aversive to change (and I'm not talking having cheerleaders or changing the foundation/values that has made A&M great) and happy with the status quo (which I think is fine), be prepared for the very real possibility of falling further behind.

Any successful business has to constantly remake itself.

The sip-ESPN deal means we should have already been doing something.

eh, I dunno...thoughts?

(maybe this has been discussed ad nauseam, but I can only search so far, and I'm just not here that often)


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staff- delete thread/ban user...intentionally misleading thread title..


or can we at least get a rename?


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[This message has been edited by ImWhatTigersDreamOf (edited 11/10/2010 7:06p).]

If I understand the deal correctly, tu will have mostly non-rev sports televised on the network. While I agree that we should be much more proactive regarding **** like this, I don't think tu is getting some kind of rediculously lucrative exposure from this.

Just the perception that they are an ESPN school is huge.

The only way it doesn't work very well
for them is if they get into an ND like funk, which is not likely.

I haven't heard about the non-rev sports, so that is new to me. However, what is their ultimate goal, what direction are they moving towards?

I think exposure alone is 'lucrative' of itself (like Bilbo said).

I guess what I'm wondering is not so much what is going down with tu - can't control what they're doing, but what is A&M doing, what's the plan?

What is the plan to bring Texas A&M into the national spotlight?

Being an SEC school would be huge for us,The time has come for us to gather up our stuff and SECede

what aftermath said ^

Either we leave the conference or we are TU's ***** forever in recruiting and facilities. Its as simple as that.

Best case scenario at this point is that Missouri says to hell with this we want out and the Big Ten wants us.

That way the whole thing falls apart without us having to do it.

Then TU is tied to their stupid ESPN contract and no other conferences will take them and they experience years in the football wilderness all on their own.

The other option is rewrite the confrence. Make a second elite confrence that gets us even better TV. Rid us of Dan Bebee and the real problems of the big 12.

Missou
OU
OSU
TAMU
tu
are the money makers of the Big 12

go after
ND
BYU
Navy
or try to steal some names for other confrences.

Time to leave Tech, Baylor, Kansas in the dust

Who cares, it means nothing.

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The big 12 is on life support.

$12 million a year + much more guaranteed tv coverage means nothing?
It means a permanent recruiting advantage over us and every other Big 12 school.

They could have gotten away with it if it was like a $4-$5 mil contract and a few non-conf games on tv. But they've gone all in and are daring anyone who doesnt like it to do something about it.

This move is the equivalent of one dog pronouncing its dominance over another dog and backing him into a corner.

The question in all of this is how pathetic or strong are our leaders? Stay tuned we'll find out.

[This message has been edited by BaronVonAggie (edited 11/10/2010 9:21p).]

Well Missouri is not going to bail us out because the Big Ten doesn't want them. I bet they would still take us though.

Trust me phone calls are being made because of this. If Missouri's desire to get out of this two bit conference was a 6 before today its a 9 right now. As ours should be also.

Then I hope we are calling Rice to coordinate a joint pitch to the Big Ten!

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Yeah we're getting bent over by the sips its hilarious!

What? Is that directed at me? I was being serious.

WyoAg.......Navy????? Did you mean Air Force?

Baron are you kidding me? You think the Big 10 is the best option? The SEC would honestly probably take Mizzou and A&M for the east. Virginia Tech and maybe FSU in the west.

We are already far behind the sips in recruiting. Practically anything they can offer exclusively, however irrelevant it may be to the recruit, is only going to add to the school/program appeal.

I would love to see this deal blow up in their face. Every other member of the Big 12 would certainly realize the financial disadvantage to them that this deal creates, and leave the conference. Nobody knows for sure who would end up where, but I can definitely foresee a scenario where A&M, Tech, OU, and OSU all leave for the SEC, Kansas and Missouri go to the Big 10, Baylor and KSU got to the Mountain West, and Iowa State goes to the Big East. If the schools that left are smart, they will blacklist Texas and won't schedule them in any sport. Then we will see how valuable that Longhorn Network really is when their football schedule consists of ND, BYU, and a bunch of regional schools like Rice and New Mexico State.

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I would love to see this deal blow up in their face. Every other member of the Big 12 would certainly realize the financial disadvantage to them that this deal creates, and leave the conference.

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Instead of getting all bent over this, why wouldn't A&M just create their own TV network? With as many passionate Aggie fans as there are, I would think the money would be bigger than UT's...

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The only way it doesn't work very well
for them is if they get into an ND like funk, which is not likely.

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ND sucks because they have no local talentbase. ESPN + proximity to DFW, Houston, SA, and east Texas is huge. But in the 85 man era, there is plenty of talent to go around. Texas is the worst team in the Big XII South.

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RIP- I think you bring up a good point. The sips or anyone else are limited to 85 players. They aren't going to hoard up all the great talent because they have an ESPN deal, IMO. It will, however, make it easier for them to get their 85 man roster filled. The mack already claims that he "selects" and doesn't recruit, now......so where is the big deal ?
This might make more of a dis-advantage in basketball, baseball or the other sports than football.

Here is how it is going to go down: OU and TAMU to the SEC, tu will go independent. MU and KU will likley go to the Big 10. The rest will go wherever. Look for this to be announced next summer.

Think about it, why is tu beefing up their OOC schedule with long term deals with Notre Dame, BYU and USC when they are actually adding a conference game? Why is tu getting some sort of "deal" with ESPN when we all know that all XII football and basketball games are already under contract. Makes you wonder what tu is up to!

As far as football goes I don't see it as a big deal at all.

This isn't shocking news, most expected the conference to be done by next year. This is why it was frustrating to here the powers that be turn down the SEC invite...why deny the inevitable, just get it over with an go.

This "lack of competing" excuse in the SEC is always funny to here. There is a lack of attention to all the other athletic programs A&M has when I hear people say it.

Pretty sure this deal will kill the Big 12, either by the other members leaving and or @ustin going indy. Hell, they might even try once more for the PAC 16 IF the PAC still has no self respect and will let them "grandfather" their new ESPN deal

The Big Ten already reached academically with Nebraska. They will not do so again except for Rutgers. They will not take Mizzou or KU. KU is bound for the BE or PAC-12 if this conference implodes.

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as a basketball fan, KU to the BE will make that the most monster conference of any sport

SECede

It means that the sips got EXACTLY what they wanted. A&M holding out for the SEC gave the sips the excuse to back out of the Pac-16 deal. Now that they have their cherished network, the Big 12 will die within 5 years at the outside, and the sips will insist their network be grandfathered into any league that will take them--highest bidders only, please. And the Pac-12, Big 10, etc. will fall over themselves to give the sips what they want.

Ags will end up in the SEC, and OU will follow wherever Dodds tells them to. Simple as that. Baylor, Tech and the rest will end up in the WAC with Texas State and UTSA.

Sabreman '92

Our administration won't do ****

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The Big Ten already reached academically with Nebraska

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Huh? Nebraska is a respectable research institution and no slouch academically when it comes to students not on the football team.

Why can't a Big 12 network ala the Big 10 work?