http://bleacherreport.com/articles/369643-texas-am-and-tcu-time-to-renew-the-old-rivalry

Yeah, go ahead and add TCU to the schedule if you want our chances for postseason play to sink even further.

This is clearly from the perspective of Frog fan as anyone who has any understanding of current BCS football would see that this would only benefit TCU.

1) They need more high profile games to make up for a MWC schedule of San Diego State, Wyoming and UNLV. A&M plays in the Big 12 South. TCU needs this game for SOS, A&M does not. Winner: TCU

2) TCU wants to increase their exposure in the DWF area with a high profile annual game and SMU isn't getting that done. A&M already has Piggy at Jerry World to do that for us. Again, TCU needs a series with us more than we need a series with them. Winner: TCU

3) Recruiting. Yes,w e compete with them for Texas talent, and for program perception. Like it or not, this is all in their favor, because if they beat us, they get a huge coup in cred for their program. If A&M beats them...no one cares because we are expected to, no matter what the reality of where the two programs are right now is. Winner: TCU

So again, anyone suggesting this is a Frog Homer who wants a series that benefits them only and damages A&M.

If they want an annual SWC match up besides the Ponies, talk to Baylor, they'd love more Metroplex exposure. Talk to Tech, they are your traditional SWC rival anyway...oh wait they aren't willing to play your game anymore either. Talk to Baylor.

Why should we let them be like Rice in baseball, a team that makes a living creaming a crappy conference while using the Big 12 South to get enough SOS to propel them to the head of the rankings ahead of those of us who have to play in dog fight conferences against top competition.



[This message has been edited by Maroon Dawn (edited 3/27/2010 7:22p).]

We will never play in a bowl game again if we are going to add TCU to ARK/TX/OU/Okie St/Tech.

I'm thinking about 2 other old rivals...UH and/or Rice

Hard to believe that A&M has only played 1 football game in the past 15 years in the city of Houston, and has still not played a game in Reliant Stadium (going to host its 9th year of pro & college football in 2010).

in fact if the basketball team had beaten Purdue, the basketball team would have gotten to play in Reliant before the football team did. Who would have guessed that when Reliant opened in 2002.

and regarding TCU...I think the Frogs have missed their window so to speak. Should have found a way to get on A&M's September schedule during the Fran era or these past 2 years with Sherman.

the basketball team has played in Houston many times just saying.

We don't play in Houston for two main reasons:

1) we depend heavily on the Houston area Ags to make the short trip to Kyle to keep attendance up. If we have an annual game with Rice or Coog High then a lot of folks, especially younger Ags, will attend that game and forgo a trip to Aggieland.

2) Our proximity to Houston makes recruiting a non issue, We don't need to play Rice or Coog High for exposure there. So there is no need to risk losing to either of them so they can turn around to Houston recruits and say 'hey, we beat A&M, sign with us instead!"

Cliff notes version: much risk, little reward.

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2) Our proximity to Houston makes recruiting a non issue, We don't need to play Rice or Coog High for exposure there. So there is no need to risk losing to either of them so they can turn around to Houston recruits and say 'hey, we beat A&M, sign with us instead!"

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Texas and LSU own Houston.

We get plenty of our talent from Houston. Maybe not all the players we like, but that isn't because of our lack of exposure in Houston, it's because of our play on the field. just win and we lock up H-town for the good guys again like in the 80s-90s

I'm also including bowl games and big 12 championship games at Reliant that the Ags could have played in.

But one non-conference game every 5 years in Houston doesn't seem too much to ask for. Obviously though with the Arkansas series in Dallas, playing in Houston is a non-issue for quite a while.

and to be fair...playing a game at Jerryworld this past season did not exactly help the Ags hold onto their best defensive recruit...from the Dallas area.

It makes no sense to play in Houston...

There is no gain to us play TCU on a regular basis, especially if the game isn't in Kyle.


We don't need help recruiting Houston; it'd be like TCU playing the game in Dallas in order to boost their recruiting. The Frogs would fall over laughing at our stupidity if we actually agreed to play them in Houston.

Oh why not?? We've beaten them the last 24 consecutive times we've played 'em! We'd kick their butts again....(here come the 3 frog fans who'll read this)

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We will never play in a bowl game again if we are going to add TCU to ARK/TX/OU/Okie St/Tech.

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How many in a row has A&M won against TCU? It is a ridiculous number.

every game since 1972 I think

culdeus is right. We have won 24 in a row vs. TCU and havent lost to them since 1972.

too scared to try and make it 25 in a row? i think yes. You aggies need to stop living in the past. If you want to do that, then count the # of national championships yall have. TCU has has twice as many as A&M....

go **** yourself

Correction toad, you CLAIM 2 titles, hell we are recognized with 4 titles ( you know, DOUBLE the number you claim) but we choose to only claim one of them. But hey, if Bama can make a big deal over mythical championships awarded by themselves, I guess you all can as well.

[This message has been edited by Maroon Dawn (edited 3/28/2010 2:38a).]

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too scared to try and make it 25 in a row? i think yes. You aggies need to stop living in the past. If you want to do that, then count the # of national championships yall have. TCU has has twice as many as A&M....

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First, that's about as stupid a first post you can make on this board. Second, you should probably focus more on your studies than football as it's apparent you can't read. See the 3rd post. We gain virtually NOTHING from playing TCU.

[This message has been edited by AggieCS2010 (edited 3/28/2010 3:16a).]

This guy lost me when he tried to say that R.C. Slocum's last game was the galleryfurniture.com bowl.

He reminds me of why bleacher report is a crap blog with idiots for writers.

only play the SWC throw aways at home only. Why give them a pay day, they can't fill their stadiums on their own, no need to help them.

your right.. yall have nothing to gain by playing TCU... it's basically signing up for a national embarrassment if the aggies schedule the frogs.... so i don't blame yall... but stop trying to make yourselves feel better about your inferior team by claiming yall have won 24 in a row, because everyone of yall know that your streak would be shattered if yall played the frogs now.

You Frogs are pathetic. You beat up on a conference that is composed mainly of some of the worst teams in D1 and then act like you are the SEC champions.

Wow, how do you EVER get all those wins with schedules like:

-OOC Cupcake
-SMU
-OOC Cupcake
-AFA
-Wyoming
-San Diego State
-UNM
-Colorado State
-UNLV

Gee must be nice to get 9 automatic wins every single season and only have to bring your "A" game for two games a year, one of which you get at home!

Quit acting like you play a legitimate schedule. If you did you wouldn't be begging the Big 12 for games. Personally I hope we boycott your asses and let your body of work in the mighty MWC speak for itself!

Pray hard that strength of schedule never becomes a real factor in the BCS formula and that wins only, no matter how crappy, are the only factor. Otherwise the fraud that is the MWC and WAC will come crashing down.

This sounds just like LSU.

It's funny TCU and LSU wait until they get good and THEN want to play us. I know LSU wanted nothing of us in the 90s and canceled their contract with us because we kept beating them.

I am not scared to admit, TCU would probably kick out butts right now. It would be embarassing to lose to a program that has so fewer resources than us.

A&M has nothing to gain EVEN IF WE WIN which probably wouldnt happen unless our defense improves light years over night (doubtful).

We have deeper pockets, better recruiting, better facilities, probably more support from the fan base, etc. than TCU. We sure as hell should win.

I believe A&M has won like 20 or 30 in a row against TCU.

Good winning spirit. Lets schedule patsies so we can make a crappy bowl while we pay some of the highest prices in the ocountry rather than expecting our AD to "build champions"

[This message has been edited by 1876er (edited 3/28/2010 1:24p).]

TCU would be the 8th most important game on our schedule and we'd be TCU's #1. Thanks but no thanks. Bad enough we play tech every year.

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Texas and LSU own Houston

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There's a reason for this. Look at their records compared to ours for the past 10 years.

1. The guy who wrote this article is a self-professing TCU fan and is not named Dan Jenkins.

2. Bleacher Report is a fan blog. Don't take it too seriously.

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Good winning spirit. Lets schedule patsies so we can make a crappy bowl while we pay some of the highest prices in the ocountry rather than expecting our AD to "build champions"

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1) I have a feeling it's people like this that would be the first ones here crying if we got knocked out of BCS contention because of a rugged OOC schedule.

2) We play in the Big 12 South. TCU desperately NEEDS games against programs like us because their conference is a joke. Ours is not. Do you think tu is scheduling Ohio State every year for OOC? Hell no! They schedule one real OOC opponent every few years or so and the rest of the time they play...[drum roll] NOTHING BUT CUPCAKES! Hasn't seemed to hurt their winning and hey, at least with Arky we play one legitimate OOC opponent every year.

3) Once again for you whiners about the ticket price: YOU ARE SUBSIDIZING THE 12TH MAN. No other school gives so many prime, fabulous seats to their students! If we did what tu does we'd give 10K tickets to the students at the top of the Zone. So instead of developing the Student side into prime big donor seating with lots of luxury suites and cushy backed chairs, we chose to lose potential money and give those tickets to the students. It's a unique problem, but if you want it solved that means no more 12th Man.



[This message has been edited by Maroon Dawn (edited 3/28/2010 2:30p).]

I posted this before we last played and beat TCU in a bowl game at the Astrodome some years ago:





I remember those TCU Horned Frogs pretty well.

When I first began watching college football in the '40s and '50s, the Aggies against the Frogs was a big match up, probably the biggest games I personally witnessed in those years.

We both had some great teams, players and coaches.

When I was at Aggieland from 1961 to 1965, LSU, Arkansas and tu outscored us EACH of those four years.

TCU was our next toughest SWC opponent and one we matched up with better, talent-wise.

I liked our chances when we played them.

In Fort Worth, in 1961, they kicked a FG in the last few minutes to leave us on the short end of a 15-14 stick.

It pissed me off.

It was my first Corps trip.

Being from neighboring Big D, I'd been called upon to arrange female companionship for twenty of my fish buddies for the game and the party after.

In those days before the internet, with slooooooooow mail service and just a dial the operator pay phone three floors down below on the wall of the dorm lounge, that was a huge undertaking.

However, with lots of help from my date still in HS in Dallas, we were all suitably paired up for the game and later we had a memorable party, which we won convincingly.



Then in 1962 those pesky toads came from behind to lick us 20-17 at Kyle.

Pissed me off again, as being licked by a toad from behind is wont to do.

Especially when you aren't expecting a lick from behind.

In fact, at that time, I actually had never been licked....from behind.

Mike Clark was our fine FG kicker, but we couldn't get him in range enough and we came up 3 points short.

We stood fast after the game, sang "The Twelfth Man," had Yell Practice and, sure enough, the next week kicker Clark booted two FGs to beat Baylor 6-3 in Waco at their Homecoming.

See, it works!



In 1963, during another Corps trip when our march in once again "captured" downtown Cowtown in its entirety, those crafty Horned Frogs came from behind to tie us 14-14.

We even had to hold them off at the end to keep from being outscored.

That really pissed me off.

Thankfully, I didn't take my sister to the game, so kissing my date was some consolation.

Before the game we went to The Hop, an eatery on their drag.

It was a happening place back then and maybe it still is.

We ate Frog Burgers and listened on a jukebox to Danny & The Juniors singing "At The Hop," at The Hop.

Cool.

I bet things were hopping at The Hop after the game too, but we had our own plans.

Some of us Sergebutt buddies had the same dates as our fish year, since they were now female Froggies.

In those days, it wasn't like we had anybody at all waiting for us back in College Station.

So, later that evening, we went out cowboy dancing and convincingly won yet another party.



Then at Kyle Field in 1964, those damn Frogs hopped out to a quick lead and never trailed, it ended up Aggies 9, Visitor 14.

Our post-game display of Aggie Spirit was not immediately successful this time.

We didn't BTHO ANYBODY until three games later, when we demolished Peruna and SMU 23-0.

See, it does work?

But that was the only game we won my Senior year.

And so I remain pissed off to this day.

In four years we tied the Christian Frogs Of Cowtown once and were outscored by one, three and five.

I'll do the math, that's nine whole points!!!!



TCU has been up and mostly down since then.

IMHO, much of Texas Tech's increase in football fortune over the years has come at TCU's expense.

The Frogs found themselves sharing their favorite West Texas recruiting areas with the Red Raiders after those folks' admission into the Southwest Conference.

It really hurt TCU's prospects having Texas Tech promoted up to big time SWC status and have them start red raiding all over some of the Froggies' best stompin' grounds.

Back then Fort Worth was "Where the West Begins" and TCU was the closest school, playing football in a major conference, to a really large windswept area.

West Texas folks sent their daughters and sons to TCU for good Christian schooling and some urban cowboy culture, while Coach Abe Martin and the Frogs reached out to high schools throughout the parched plains and Panhandle proper for pigskin prospects.

TCU took many eager, raw-boned, tough small town boys, put them on scholarship in their figuritive football feed lot and then used that home-grown, West Texas talent to win football games aplenty.

They have an fine, elitist church school with high tuition and limited enrollment that is still striving (and has plotted, cheated and schemed) toward renewed sports excellence.

But now they're stuck in a lesser conference with distant opponents and no prospect of ever regaining their former place in Texas football.

They want to be players again, so bad.

Too bad.

We won't schedule them, their coaches sign multi-year contracts saying that they can leave if Aggieland wants to hire them and this is their only chance at us.

We had better be ready for their best effort.

They really want to bring us down, since they can't get back up where they once were.



For all their past and present excellence, they are bitter anathema to me.

I'm only kidding, they really aren't bad folks at all, just somebody we need to firmly step upon as we move on.

They have been placed right in our pigskin pathway, whether we are presently on our way up or down in the collegiate football world.

We've currently won 23 straight football games against the Frogs.

But I'm still not satisfied and, phonetically speaking, I want to leave the "Fart Wurf Frogs" squashed flat on the famously unyielding turf of the Houston Astrodome.

If they can swell back up and jump around at all afterwards, I'll enjoy watching their bruised butts bumping on the artificial grass as they slowly and painfully hop away in defeat.



In my younger days, there used to be horned toads all over the place.

They were ubiquitous, common and well-known to us as kids.

You'd see them everywhere, hissing and spitting blood from their eyes or even playing dead to fool you, whichever best served their purpose.

I hear that pesticides and loss of habitat (NCAA sanctions and coaching problems) nearly did them in and that the fire ants (those Red Raiders) have taken many of the rest.

Still, I want to resolutely rectify any reptilian resurgence.

They are, you know, actually horned LIZARDS, not FROGS, and thus reptiles rather than amphibians, having indeed evolved much further Darwinistically than even they choose to credit themselves.



Go figure.

I went to all four of those Ag-Frog games I descibed above with the same lovely TCU co-ed.

I never found a wart anywhere on her.

She was a very cool lady and a gracious winner and I truly hope she remembers those days and me as fondly as I do her.

It's about the only time Fort Worth ever crosses my mind.



She's a Frog graduate now and were I not happily married for thirty years, I would call and ask her to this game.

I hope she's watching closely when my Ags beat her Frogs for the twenty-fourth straight time.

That thought will make me feel better.



You know, Old Army, it's been quite awhile since we Ags faced this particular opponent and thus fought a gridiron battle wherein a gig is completely appropriate and is actually the first weapon of choice.

So, BTHO TCU!!!!!



Gig 'em, FAST FRED '65.

Before the world wide web, village idiots usually stayed in their own village.

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