I disagree with RC. All we have to do is win and we will get Texas players. If we coach bad, execute poorly, and do not do a good job of recruiting then we will lose to many teams. Playing anybody in Jerry world will not have any negative effect if we just do what we are suppose to do.

What did RC say?

Said that we should be worried about playing Arky in the recruiting hotbed of Texas.

For the article, check the TexAgs homepage "News and Notes".

I have deduced from Houstonag's post that Slocum must have said something about losing in Jerry's World = bad for A&M recruiting in DFW and opens new doors for Arky recruiting.

These special games in special venues have no impact on recruiting at all.... recruiting is very simple: in almost every case, kids go to the sexiest name (as defined by the ESPN-esqe hype machine) that gives them an offer – period.

It’s not facilities, it’s not academics, it’s not tv time, it’s not the coaches slick tongue, or any other BS – it’s almost always the exact same mechanism that sell hats in a mall.

I have to agree with RC if we lose. Especially if we lose regularly in Jerry World.

How much is each school getting from the Ark game?

It is my understanding that money is the main reason we are playing this game in DFW.

We've had a pretty bad track record the last 10 years recruiting dfw anyway. I think it can only help. Besides Arky could have found Baylor, Tech or someone else to play annually in Jerryworld if we turned them down.

Y'all are already doing OK in the metroplex with guys like Malena & the Joeckels (sp). Arkie has no foothold here whatsoever, so scheduling this series will help their recruiting infinitely more than it will help yours. (especially if they win & look good)

OTOH, ou has lost 5 of their last 6 in Dallas, so maybe y'all can put arkie on a strak like that.

HOOK 'EM,
Texdoc

"Sooner or later it all gets real" - Neil Young

Or even a streak like that if you can't put 'em on a strak.

HOOK 'EM,
Texdoc

"Sooner or later it all gets real" - Neil Young

While I usually don't find myself disagreeing with RC much, this is the risk/reward situation that we've needed for years now. We must have a presence in Dallas for recruiting, so just plan on winning the games and it solves itself.

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These special games in special venues have no impact on recruiting at all.... recruiting is very simple: in almost every case, kids go to the sexiest name (as defined by the ESPN-esqe hype machine) that gives them an offer – period.

It’s not facilities, it’s not academics, it’s not tv time, it’s not the coaches slick tongue, or any other BS – it’s almost always the exact same mechanism that sell hats in a mall.

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I would agree with that to a certain extent. BUT, school location, school's ability to recognize talent, and relationship with recruiting coach/head coach have an impact as well.

That said, the name brand factor will always be a disadvantage for us against Texas. (YES, I know, I know "every" tshirt fan in the 80s-90s liked A&M over Texas).. But crap, I see more Texas stuff around the country than probably any other school.

[This message has been edited by Aston04 (edited 9/9/2009 11:22a).]

Actually, ou has only lost 4 of their last 5 in Big D. I was thinking ahead to October....

HOOK 'EM,
Texdoc

"Sooner or later it all gets real" - Neil Young

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Texdoc
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Y'all are already doing OK in the metroplex with guys like Malena & the Joeckels (sp). Arkie has no foothold here whatsoever, so scheduling this series will help their recruiting infinitely more than it will help yours. (especially if they win & look good)

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It will help our recruiting everywhere, including DFW. It will help Arkansas's, which in turn, hurts everyone else's in the Big 12. That's why the whorns don't like it.

Bingo, Aston. Our presence in DFW is only going to help if we avoid a dismal showing. As the recruiting talent improves, the results in this series improves. The W-L record will not effect recruiting (for A&M) unless we have a losing streak for 3 years, which I don't believe will happen. I, as well as many others, can see a loss this year. A competitive game or even a win will boost the programs image tremendously. Arkansas will not gain much of a foothold in the area regardless of the outcomes of the games.

i've had enough of this not wanting to play big games in texas b/c of recruiting. please! we should be taking all comers in texas whenever we can. how about we just actually play some good football and win some of those games and not worry about recruiting for once?

Just win!

I wonder if the TCU's and Cougar High's of the world worry about losing recruits if they lose a game away from home?

Just win, dang it!

Actually, we like it tard 'cause it won't hurt our recruiting at all. Won't hurt ou either, but you might have a point with tcu & smu.

HOOK 'EM,
Texdoc

"Sooner or later it all gets real" - Neil Young

Just Arkansas presence in TX can be a problem in recruiting. Arkansas cleaned up the Dallas area every year during the late 80's, prior to joining the SEC.

I rceall DKR telling mack something similar, when tu began their series with the Hogs

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Actually, we like it tard 'cause it won't hurt our recruiting at all. Won't hurt ou either, but you might have a point with tcu & smu.

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You don't like it because it's going to help our recruiting, which is already doing very well, despite coming off a 4-8 season.

Poor teasips.

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Aggies98tards54 is pretty much owning on this thread. Just thought I'd stop in to point that out.

I'm surprised by Slocum's lack of optimism. He should have confidence in Sherman and this team! They're undefeated for crying out loud. You want to be skeptical before the season fine, but once it starts you need to get in the boat.

Didn't Slocum coin "2%er"?

I guess Highway 6 does run both ways.

I agree with Slocum. Now there's another pig at the Texas HS football trough.

I cannot stand that mentality. To win big, you've got to bet big. Same approach in football, if you want to get your name on the list of marquee programs, you're going to have to square up with some big name programs and knock them off.

agreed Buford, that's what got RC ran out of town in the first place.

totally agree with the two above posters.

slocum's personality is all about mediocrity. those who want to be successful and dominant in any profession would never say these types of things.

Do you think Mack is worried we are playing in Dallas?

this disgust me to know end about my alma mater!



"half the world is sleeping while the other half dreams."

Yes, Mack is worried with us and every one else now playing in Dallas and especially any new out of staters like pig vomit who just want more of our recruits and beautiful women.

Mack was with RC years ago when they pushed hard in trying to keep recruits in Texas.

i wish they'd cancel this series. its stupid.

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Didn't Slocum coin "2%er"?

I guess Highway 6 does run both ways.

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So because Slocum thinks we should be worried about one of our upcoming games, you're implying that he's a 2%er? I think the Arkansas game should be a huge concern for us.

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Arkansas cleaned up the Dallas area every year during the late 80's, prior to joining the SEC.

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Hmmmm. Maybe the last part of that statement had something to do with their recruiting falling off in Texas?

Arkansas is not going to suddenly start cleaning up in Texas like the days of old just because they play one game per year in the metroplex. They used to clean up in Texas because they played in the SWC - an otherwise all Texas conference. It really isn't that difficult to figure this stuff out.

Who cares what RC has to say...he hasn't coached in years and isn't exactly an official school representative anyway. I believe we are paying some guys in Maroon Jackets a lot of $'s to be the spokespeople for A&M athletics. What do they have to say about it? Well, other than the fact they put the deal together and got the big name recognition and venue, you might say they are in favor of it.

You have to ask yourself why RC picked this year and this issue to start gabbing? I say put the squelch on and move forward...

A&M Give Us Room!

Agz win, I hope you're joking. I know that delusion can run rampant here at times, but you can't really think that Mack is somehow sweating over this game. Do you think he really worries when tcu & smu play in the metroplex????

HOOK 'EM,
Texdoc

"Sooner or later it all gets real" - Neil Young

Snake oil salesmen are always sweating, doc, especially those promoting the merits of burnt orange these days. Ol' Mack is not happy Aggies and pig vomit have invaded his Big D turf. I do agree with you though he doesn't fret much about TCU and SMU -- most likely since they're no longer a conference foe.

i think RC is right if we lose it's not going to be good recruiting. i think he's also just trying to get everybody fired up for the series.
i think it's hilarious that RC still has alot of haters out there, Evan when he's one of the big reason's why Sherman is here.

For the record, my comments yesterday in no way implied that A&M would not win the game. I said that it would be a great game and possibly, with time, could develop into a game similar to Texas/OU. I said that I was glad that the series was being renewed. I did say that Arkansas had a lot to gain from the game from a recruiting standpoint. I recruited the Dallas area for A&M for many years and Arkansas was a real factor in recruiting prior to them leaving the SWC and therefore having no presence in Texas. With them having a high profile game in the state, with the accompanying press coverage,with them being able to give area recruits tickets to attend the game, etc., I would think that most would agree with me that it would help their recruiting in Texas. I stand by that statement. R.C. Slocum