Violence in Europe from 1300-1700

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Ghost of Andrew Eaton
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One thing that I believe I can improve on is discussing the violence that took place in Europe before and during the discovery of the Americas. Carlin piqued my interest by mentioning how violent Europe was before Columbus and his crew landed in the New World. I'm not going to use it as an excuse as much as a chance to provide students will background knowledge about the world from which these explorers/settlers were coming from.

Any guidance to books, events, or anything else is appreciated.
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The Jamestown Project - Karen Ordahl Kupperman does a good job of talking about the background and history of Jamestown and its inhabitants.

Edit: Were you wanting to focus on a specific country or are all of the Atlantic colonizers on the board?
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Given your date range, the first event that comes to mind is the Thirty Years War (1618 - 1648). The relative devastation of that conflict is staggering.
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Given that date range and location of Europe, the first thing I thought of was the Ottoman Empire siege(s) of Vienna.

I grew up in Saudi Arabia but we never learned about the Muslim/Turkish invasion of Europe. In school, we mostly focused on the Reformation during that time period.

I didn't learn about the 1529 and 1683 Siege of Vienna until I was eating at a restaurant in Vienna back in 2003 and our restaurant had cannonball holes in the wall and I'm pretty sure there was even a cannonball stuck in the wall.

So there's some violence in Europe during the specified time period.
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icrymyselftosleep said:

The Jamestown Project - Karen Ordahl Kupperman does a good job of talking about the background and history of Jamestown and its inhabitants.

Edit: Were you wanting to focus on a specific country or are all of the Atlantic colonizers on the board?


Thanks to everyone. I was looking for something regarding Spain and England.

How would you guys connect the violence from Europe to that within the New World? Or am I grasping a straws?
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Violence was everywhere and still is, particularly when people get desperate.
The New World has been a brief respite but is now growing overpopulated.



Over the Hills and Far Away (AC4 Version) War of the Spanish Succession - YouTube
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War was endemic in Europe, pretty much from the beginning of recorded history until the end of the Napoleonic Wars in 1814. Even the Pax Romana only existed inside the Roman empire, not outside. The idea that peace was the normal condition is a relatively new one, historically speaking. See Sir Michael Howard, The Invention of Peace.

Probably most relevant to the early European involvement in the New World was the Reconquista - the Christian reconquest of the Iberian peninsula from the Moors. This ended in 1492 - the very year Columbus discovered the New World. So conquering heathen for God and monarch was definitely nothing new to the Spaniards.

Also during this same time period, there was the Hundred Years War between France and England, followed by the Wars of the Roses in England.

In my opinion, the Spanish are really the only ones who can be said to have really conquered portions of the New World, at least in the military sense. By the time the French and English start claiming chunks of territory and setting up colonies, the native population has been devastated by the inadvertent introduction of European disease. I've seen some estimates that the pre-Columbian population of the New World was reduced by up to 90% in the roughly 125 years between Columbus and the Pilgrims' arrival. The French, Dutch, and English were thus moving into areas that had a lot of empty space. (Many of the 'open fields' found in New England, for example, were actually cleared fields, but the natives who had cleared them had either died or left the area as the population thinned.)

The Spanish conquistadors of the early 16th century were thus the only Europeans encountering native societies at their height. (Neither the English nor the French, for example, sent expeditions to Cahokia to subdue the mound-builders.)

Also keep in mind that Christian Europe was in conflict, sometimes outright war, sometimes not, with the Muslim Ottoman Empire during that entire time period. Constantinople finally fell in 1453, the first Siege of Vienna was in 1529, and the second in 1683. This was much more of a concern for the Holy Roman/Hapsburg Empire, the Italian city states (Venice, Genoa, Florence), and Mediterranian kingdoms than England and France. But it was part of the constant warfare of the period.
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Check out The Age of Religious Wars 1559-1689 by Richard S Dunn.
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