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Jetty
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Anyone else suffer from neuropathy in your feet. I've had it for a few years and it's Horrible!

I've tried 4 or 5 prescription meds and so far only Cymbalta has helped - but made me so dizzy I couldn't walk.
Any thoughts?
RightWingConspirator
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What does it feel like?
Jetty
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Constant walking on nails/hot coals. Periodic shooting pains. Numbness… it's exhausting. I don't wish this on my worst enemy.
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I sometimes wonder if I have it, but it's not painful to me at all. For me it feels like I'm wearing socks on the very tip of my toes so I don't have the sensation I think I should when I, for example, walk on a cold tile floor.
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My dad has it and hasn't been able to find anything that works either.
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Have you figured out the underlying cause and started working on reversing it? Diabetes? Peripheral vascular disease? Other medical condition? Controlling/reversing the root cause will help a little.

And I'm assuming you've tried gabapentin. What about pregabalin? Or a tricyclic anti-depressant like amitriptyline? Topical capsaicin can help some people as well. Worth a shot if you haven't tried it.
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Also looking for recommendations here. My 65 yr old dad has the exact same symptoms. Gabapentin and pregabalin don't work. He's trying PT now and will soon have two injections in his lower back. The only remaining option according to his pain management dr and neurologist is surgery.
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I have had neuropathy in my feet for 25+ years. Alpha Lipoic acid helps some. I have taken gabepentin for several years. It helps some, but is not a cure. Get high quality shoes. Go to Youtube and look at videos posted by Dr. Jo. She shows you some good exercises which have helped me.. As far as I can tell, there is no cure. Try to avoid walking on hard surfaces as much as possible. It is the pits. Good luck
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My father had surgery to clear up some of the spinal compression, removal of bone spurs and widen the space between the vertebrae, and it helped with his neuropathy.
Howard Roark
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Have you ever tried standing on a vibration plate daily? My MIL swears it helps her neuropathy more than anything else she's ever tried. I've always wondered if it's legit or some kind of placebo happening.
Jetty
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I've not tried the vibrating plate… interesting. I've been on Gabapentin, pre-gabapentin, cymbalta and 1 other I can't think of. In reply to Bigtruckguy3500… I'm not diabetic, symptoms started approx. 2 weeks after my 2nd Covid vaccine.
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Jetty said:

I've not tried the vibrating plate… interesting. I've been on Gabapentin, pre-gabapentin, cymbalta and 1 other I can't think of. In reply to Bigtruckguy3500… I'm not diabetic, symptoms started approx. 2 weeks after my 2nd Covid vaccine.
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Jetty said:

I've not tried the vibrating plate… interesting. I've been on Gabapentin, pre-gabapentin, cymbalta and 1 other I can't think of. In reply to Bigtruckguy3500… I'm not diabetic, symptoms started approx. 2 weeks after my 2nd Covid vaccine.

Doing any better Jetty? I deal with this too. It sucks. Mine came on suddenly after rapidly lowering blood sugar levels after finding out I was in diabetic range. Mainly burning feeling in my feet, but sometimes my hands sting. It will improve, and then something will trigger it and it comes back again. I haven't figured out the trigger, as my blood sugar levels have been stable and in a good range for 6 years now.
WestTexasAg
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Anyone had any luck dealing with this crap?
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For what it's worth, as I know people will do what they want, look for natural remedies. Cymbalta (duloxetine), Lyrica (pregabalin), and Neruontin (gabapentin) can cause horrible side effects and neurological injury that can take months to years to heal (if they ever do) and can be damn-near impossible to get off of.
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I have diabetic neuropathy in my feet. I was listening to a two hour talk that included this type of therapy initially stating how it helped reduce aging in the face but then the podcast went further. No mention in the podcast about DN. I am going to order it.

Red light therapy for diabetic neuropathy in the feet

What it is
Red light therapy (RLT), also called low-level laser/light therapy (LLLT), uses low-intensity red or near-infrared light to stimulate cellular processes. It is thought to improve cellular energy (ATP), reduce inflammation, and promote tissue repair.

Evidence and effectiveness
Diabetic neuropathy (DN)** is a complex condition caused by diabetes that affects nerves, often in the feet.
Current evidence is mixed and evolving.** Some small studies and pilot trials have suggested:
Potential improvements in pain, sensation, and nerve function
Possible enhanced wound healing in neuropathic ulcers
Limitations:** Many studies have small sample sizes, short follow-up, varying light wavelengths, dosages, and treatment durations. There is not yet a robust consensus that RLT reliably treats DN symptoms or prevents progression.

Potential benefits
Reduced pain or numbness in some individuals
Improved blood flow and microcirculation in treated areas
Faster healing of foot ulcers if present
Possible modest improvements in nerve function in some cases

Potential risks and considerations
Generally considered safe when performed by trained professionals and using approved devices
Possible transient redness, warmth, or irritation at the treatment site
Not a substitute for standard diabetes care
Must be used as part of a comprehensive diabetes management plan (glycemic control, foot care, regular check-ups)

Practical guidance
Consult your healthcare provider** before starting RLT, especially with diabetic neuropathy. They can evaluate your specific case, review medications, and coordinate care.
If approved, seek treatment from reputable clinics or devices with evidence-based protocols. Ask:
Wavelengths used (commonly around 6301100 nm)
Treatment duration and frequency
Expected vs. observed outcomes
Any contraindications (e.g., active infection, open wounds, certain medications)
Continue standard DN management:
Strict blood glucose control
Regular foot exams and foot care
Denture and footwear adjustments to prevent ulcers
Management of comorbidities (hypertension, cholesterol)

What to discuss with your clinician
Do you have a specific DN symptom profile (pain, numbness, burning, balance issues)?
Are there any foot ulcers or wounds present?
What evidence-based alternatives or adjuncts would be best in your case (physical therapy, medications like duloxetine or gabapentinoids, topical agents, other modalities)?
What would be a realistic timeline to assess effectiveness?

Bottom line
Red light therapy may offer some benefits for people with diabetic neuropathy, particularly for pain relief or wound healing in some individuals, but evidence is not strong enough to universally recommend it as a primary treatment. It should be considered as an adjunct to, not a replacement for, comprehensive diabetes and neuropathy management. Always consult a healthcare professional before starting RLT.

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Jetty
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Sorry just saw this… making it… some days are ehhh and some days are Horrible! I'm just SO thankful I can sleep! Just home from a mini vacation spent 5 hours in the car… that's Never good to have my feet down for that length of time. I'm spending today in my recliner with my feet up. Wish we could all find a cure! Or at least some help!
WestTexasAg
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Jetty said:

Sorry just saw this… making it… some days are ehhh and some days are Horrible! I'm just SO thankful I can sleep! Just home from a mini vacation spent 5 hours in the car… that's Never good to have my feet down for that length of time. I'm spending today in my recliner with my feet up. Wish we could all find a cure! Or at least some help!

Glad to hear you are at least getting a little relief. Yeah, long road trips are tough on me too. Not good for circulation.
WestTexasAg
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BartInLA said:

I have diabetic neuropathy in my feet. I was listening to a two hour talk that included this type of therapy initially stating how it helped reduce aging in the face but then the podcast went further. No mention in the podcast about DN. I am going to order it.

Red light therapy for diabetic neuropathy in the feet

What it is
Red light therapy (RLT), also called low-level laser/light therapy (LLLT), uses low-intensity red or near-infrared light to stimulate cellular processes. It is thought to improve cellular energy (ATP), reduce inflammation, and promote tissue repair.

Evidence and effectiveness
Diabetic neuropathy (DN)** is a complex condition caused by diabetes that affects nerves, often in the feet.
Current evidence is mixed and evolving.** Some small studies and pilot trials have suggested:
Potential improvements in pain, sensation, and nerve function
Possible enhanced wound healing in neuropathic ulcers
Limitations:** Many studies have small sample sizes, short follow-up, varying light wavelengths, dosages, and treatment durations. There is not yet a robust consensus that RLT reliably treats DN symptoms or prevents progression.

Potential benefits
Reduced pain or numbness in some individuals
Improved blood flow and microcirculation in treated areas
Faster healing of foot ulcers if present
Possible modest improvements in nerve function in some cases

Potential risks and considerations
Generally considered safe when performed by trained professionals and using approved devices
Possible transient redness, warmth, or irritation at the treatment site
Not a substitute for standard diabetes care
Must be used as part of a comprehensive diabetes management plan (glycemic control, foot care, regular check-ups)

Practical guidance
Consult your healthcare provider** before starting RLT, especially with diabetic neuropathy. They can evaluate your specific case, review medications, and coordinate care.
If approved, seek treatment from reputable clinics or devices with evidence-based protocols. Ask:
Wavelengths used (commonly around 6301100 nm)
Treatment duration and frequency
Expected vs. observed outcomes
Any contraindications (e.g., active infection, open wounds, certain medications)
Continue standard DN management:
Strict blood glucose control
Regular foot exams and foot care
Denture and footwear adjustments to prevent ulcers
Management of comorbidities (hypertension, cholesterol)

What to discuss with your clinician
Do you have a specific DN symptom profile (pain, numbness, burning, balance issues)?
Are there any foot ulcers or wounds present?
What evidence-based alternatives or adjuncts would be best in your case (physical therapy, medications like duloxetine or gabapentinoids, topical agents, other modalities)?
What would be a realistic timeline to assess effectiveness?

Bottom line
Red light therapy may offer some benefits for people with diabetic neuropathy, particularly for pain relief or wound healing in some individuals, but evidence is not strong enough to universally recommend it as a primary treatment. It should be considered as an adjunct to, not a replacement for, comprehensive diabetes and neuropathy management. Always consult a healthcare professional before starting RLT.

Podcast






Thinking of trying this as well.
Jetty
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Please let us know if it helps!!!!!
WestTexasAg
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BartInLA said:

I have diabetic neuropathy in my feet. I was listening to a two hour talk that included this type of therapy initially stating how it helped reduce aging in the face but then the podcast went further. No mention in the podcast about DN. I am going to order it.

Red light therapy for diabetic neuropathy in the feet

What it is
Red light therapy (RLT), also called low-level laser/light therapy (LLLT), uses low-intensity red or near-infrared light to stimulate cellular processes. It is thought to improve cellular energy (ATP), reduce inflammation, and promote tissue repair.

Evidence and effectiveness
Diabetic neuropathy (DN)** is a complex condition caused by diabetes that affects nerves, often in the feet.
Current evidence is mixed and evolving.** Some small studies and pilot trials have suggested:
Potential improvements in pain, sensation, and nerve function
Possible enhanced wound healing in neuropathic ulcers
Limitations:** Many studies have small sample sizes, short follow-up, varying light wavelengths, dosages, and treatment durations. There is not yet a robust consensus that RLT reliably treats DN symptoms or prevents progression.

Potential benefits
Reduced pain or numbness in some individuals
Improved blood flow and microcirculation in treated areas
Faster healing of foot ulcers if present
Possible modest improvements in nerve function in some cases

Potential risks and considerations
Generally considered safe when performed by trained professionals and using approved devices
Possible transient redness, warmth, or irritation at the treatment site
Not a substitute for standard diabetes care
Must be used as part of a comprehensive diabetes management plan (glycemic control, foot care, regular check-ups)

Practical guidance
Consult your healthcare provider** before starting RLT, especially with diabetic neuropathy. They can evaluate your specific case, review medications, and coordinate care.
If approved, seek treatment from reputable clinics or devices with evidence-based protocols. Ask:
Wavelengths used (commonly around 6301100 nm)
Treatment duration and frequency
Expected vs. observed outcomes
Any contraindications (e.g., active infection, open wounds, certain medications)
Continue standard DN management:
Strict blood glucose control
Regular foot exams and foot care
Denture and footwear adjustments to prevent ulcers
Management of comorbidities (hypertension, cholesterol)

What to discuss with your clinician
Do you have a specific DN symptom profile (pain, numbness, burning, balance issues)?
Are there any foot ulcers or wounds present?
What evidence-based alternatives or adjuncts would be best in your case (physical therapy, medications like duloxetine or gabapentinoids, topical agents, other modalities)?
What would be a realistic timeline to assess effectiveness?

Bottom line
Red light therapy may offer some benefits for people with diabetic neuropathy, particularly for pain relief or wound healing in some individuals, but evidence is not strong enough to universally recommend it as a primary treatment. It should be considered as an adjunct to, not a replacement for, comprehensive diabetes and neuropathy management. Always consult a healthcare professional before starting RLT.

Podcast






Any luck with this Bart?
WestTexasAg
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Jetty said:

Please let us know if it helps!!!!!

How are you feeling these days?
Jetty
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Sorry just saw this…

NOTE… I AM NOT A DOCTOR AND I AM NOT GIVING ANY ADVICE! …. Just reporting what I'm trying

Still having the painful tingling, numbness, shootings pains….builds during the day. I went to a local podiatrist who has some experience treating neuropathy. She suggested I take 600 mg of Alpha Lipoic Acid… (the brand she suggested I bought from Amazon - Immunovites) she also prescribed me
Amitriptyline 10 mg to start…. The Ami.. definitely helps me sleep. I've been taking these for less than a week but I'm hoping for some relief in the future.

AGAIN…. IM NOT A DOCTOR AND I AM NOT GIVING ADVICE!

Good luck! I hope we can all find some relief in the future!
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