Drostanolone Enanthate or Masteron.

I'll be in Europe for 4 months and wonder in 400 mg per week (legally obtained) would be helpful for getting leaner without losing muscle? I'm 210 pounds.

There's a Reddit steroid forum that I think you'd be much better off posting in. There's one poster here that sounds like he knows what he's talking about.

But, what little I've read about steroids, if you don't know what you're doing with your cycle and post-cycle to get your hormones back on track, you could not only lose all your gains, but seriously mess your body up for a long time (boobs, no libido, shrink your package, screw up your liver, increase your blood cholesterol and triglycerides). Do your research and don't rush into it.

Yes they will help, but it is stupid. Why would you chance fugging up your body? You aint going to become a body builder in four months. You aint winning a world championship in powerlifting in four months. You aint becoming an NFL player in four moths. The fact that you have to ask shows you haven't done your research.

I'm not anti-steroid, but for fug sake know what you are doing, first.

I've highly considered it before. But the more and more I looked at it, the less and less I considered it.

The guys that I know shot up for football still felt after effects for at least 10 years. I can't comprehend how that would be worth it.

I've done 1 cycle before. My advice is don't do it. The problem is the instant gains your joints aren't ready for. 2 shoulder surgeries later I can attest. It's an amazing feeling while you're on them, you'll be stronger than ever and be able to run farther. But it still ain't worth it.

FroggieBreath said:

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Drostanolone Enanthate or Masteron.

I'll be in Europe for 4 months and wonder in 400 mg per week (legally obtained) would be helpful for getting leaner without losing muscle? I'm 210 pounds.

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They are the same thing, masteron is just a brand name of drostanolone and yes it is good for leaning out. However, if you're going to take it are you using a test base or just taking it by itself? Because by itself would be stupid as you're going to cause all sorts of issues without a test base.

If you're going to use and only want a single compound, you're better off doing just test-e, controlling your diet, and doing cardio to keep bloat down.

You really didn't give a lot of information here.

Just don't. I've never used, but my buddies that have all regret it.

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Just don't. I've never used, but my buddies that have all regret it.

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If you're uninformed about how to properly use then yeah you will regret it. A cycle without any sort of estrogen control like aromasin or arimidex and without any sort of post-cycle therapy like clomid or nolvadex WILL mess you up. A cycle where you are doing what you should do? Not a problem.

The biggest mistake people make is that they start using blind without having done any research at all. This is stupid and I would recommend to anyone who is considering them, to read every available piece of information that they can get their hands on. Reddit's r/steroids wiki page is a fantastic start: https://www.reddit.com/r/steroids/wiki/index

If you are not willing to do any research, you should not use, ever.

Steroids are awesome my man .... really got mind blowing gains when I was on them.

Also on the positive the shrinking of you testicles will make your package look bigger.

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Geriatric Punk said:

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Just don't. I've never used, but my buddies that have all regret it.

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If you're uninformed about how to properly use then yeah you will regret it. A cycle without any sort of estrogen control like aromasin or arimidex and without any sort of post-cycle therapy like clomid or nolvadex WILL mess you up. A cycle where you are doing what you should do? Not a problem.

The biggest mistake people make is that they start using blind without having done any research at all. This is stupid and I would recommend to anyone who is considering them, to read every available piece of information that they can get their hands on. Reddit's r/steroids wiki page is a fantastic start: https://www.reddit.com/r/steroids/wiki/index

If you are not willing to do any research, you should not use, ever.

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What he said. I know quite a few users and they are in better shape and health (responsible users) than the others who abuse alcohol every weekend. Alcohol has had a much more serious effect over time then any steroid use.

Long term steroid use is a bad idea. Period. Even if "controlled" there are long term effects. You are messing with a system that people with PhDs and MDs admit they do not fully understand just to gain muscle mass faster.

gain muscle mass faster.

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Long term steroid use is a bad idea. Period. Even if "controlled" there are long term effects. You are messing with a system that people with PhDs and MDs admit they do not fully understand just to gain muscle mass faster.

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They understand steroids better than most drugs that we take. They have been studying them for 70 years and there are people that have been on them longer than you have been alive.

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They understand steroids better than most drugs that we take. They have been studying them for 70 years and there are people that have been on them longer than you have been alive.

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Ah the sarcastic and dismissive post of someone who doesn't agree. We have been studying LOTS of things for 70+ years that we still do not fully understand. Our understanding of steroids has changed greatly and will continue to change. And really? People use anabolic steroids for longer than I have been alive? You do realize that dexamethasone is not the same thing correct?

Use them if you want, I am a great believer in choice. But don't pretend you are not unbalancing your natural body processes to get buff/etc.

Read and Enjoy, or ignore those people who have been studying for "70+ years"

There is a lot of fear mongering on that page, Thinker.

Having said that, unless you are competitively competing in a strength or bodybuilding related sport or natbevan action movie star, using is stupid. Very few of them pay and those that do, you have to be a phenom in the first place. Even those don't pay enough to make it worthwhile.

Though like I said, I'm not against using them. It's s choice and they do help (you still have to do the work). The question is, is it worth the risk? Is it worth the health risk, legal risk (in US), psychological risk, etc.? If your vanity and fragile ego need it and it is worth it to you, then go for it.

BBDP isn't the one being dismissive.

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They understand steroids better than most drugs that we take. They have been studying them for 70 years and there are people that have been on them longer than you have been alive.

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Ah the sarcastic and dismissive post of someone who doesn't agree. We have been studying LOTS of things for 70+ years that we still do not fully understand. Our understanding of steroids has changed greatly and will continue to change. And really? People use anabolic steroids for longer than I have been alive? You do realize that dexamethasone is not the same thing correct?

Use them if you want, I am a great believer in choice. But don't pretend you are not unbalancing your natural body processes to get buff/etc.

Read and Enjoy, or ignore those people who have been studying for "70+ years"

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The US government is a horrific source for any sort of drug information, much less steroids. They are INCREDIBLY misinformed when it comes to steroids. It's almost pure fear-mongering.

The fact that steroids are literal over the counter drugs in most of the world should tell you that the ban of steroids in the US was almost purely agenda driven.

I will say that it's only been in the past 20 years that people have really begun to understand side effects and how to manage them properly. Before 1990, on-cycle support and post-cycle therapy was almost unheard of and virtually everyone just used the taper off method. This is largely why steroids were demonized as people had permanently crashed testosterone and major testosterone to estrogen conversion issues due to aromatization. Now people understand these things far better than they did in the past and you can even get blood tests of hormone, etc. levels to prove everything is fine. With proper on-cycle support and post-cycle therapy, you won't have any issue provided you are not doing huge amounts of gear.

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If your vanity and fragile ego need it and it is worth it to you, then go for it.

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applicable to probably 99% of steroid users.