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BigO_02
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As educators we are having to give our high school kids a state mandated physical fitness test requiring a mile run/walk, push-ups, curl-ups and a trunk lift. There are NO requirements to be met or incentive for the students to try as kids are being pulled out of academic classes in order to perform these tasks.

Now I am in favor of fitness awareness, especially with high school students that are getting more and more out of shape every year, but this is a disater. It is not like this affects grades or graduation, so basically I have to prevent my senior students from skipping for the next two days while they perform tests that cannot be passed or failed and they do not want to be apart of in any way. Or it is a situation where the student is an athlete in the school and these tests are a joke compared to what they are asked to do on a daily basis during their athletic period. Also it means two less days in the spring to prepare students for the upcomming AP exam (yes, I am a coach who actually teaches a real academic class, shocking!!! Not English as this is poorly written).

If you have been to a Texas high school lately and seen a PE class then you understand a need for a program that will motivate students to get in better shape, but the sad reality of the situation is that this is not about fitness. It exists because politicians are upset with the Texas High School Coaches Association, which I am a memeber, defeating an effort to allow waivers for private schools into UIL activities.

We also had to perform a Bus Evacuation Drill for the same reason which cost thousands of doallars of taxpayer money in order to have your student leave their class to slide out the back of a school bus regardless if they ride one or not. At the current price of diesel, do you think that someone in trouble might already know to listen to the bus drivers' instructions and exit through the giant hole in the back of the bus? Think about every school district in Texas having to have all of their busses run an extra route to every school in the district twice a year just for this drill that was never required until this year. $$$$ that could go to . . . , I don't know, new textbooks?

Anyways, as Frank Costanza said, I have lost my train of thought. I just hate the fact that our state representatives are using a political agenda and our money in the name of "fitness" that has nothing to do with caring for the health and well being of our students and children.

"Cowards die many times before their deaths, the valiant never taste of death but once"
BigO_02
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I deeply apologize as I did not know this was going to be this long and that many of you may not care.


Just remember that I saw a lot of coaches on Aggie00's thread and maybe someone understood what I was talking about.


I will go back to semi-lurking!!

"Cowards die many times before their deaths, the valiant never taste of death but once"
Fuzzbutt
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Meanwhile the cafeterias serve very unhealthy food at most schools

Streetfighter 02
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Square pizza.
AtlAg05
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems if they have these tests there should be some kind of training. Is there any of this going on?
Streetfighter 02
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It sounds to me like you work two calculus problems and then try for max pushups.
BigO_02
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No training. Just told the kids how to perform an exercise and set them at it. The only thing missing was the monkey and the football!

Kids kept asking me what we would do if they refused. I had no answer and nothing to hold them to the test.

And, for the comment about school lunches, ketchup still counts as a veggie to our government.

"Cowards die many times before their deaths, the valiant never taste of death but once"
Tmoneyag99
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You've got to be kidding me.

Well you really shouldnt be supprised it was a Fort Worth idiot's politcal agenda that ended TAMU's legacy policy. (not that all people in FW are idiots.)

What gets me is the fact that Texas Politicians dont make that much money. So why they are willing to cut the throats of the innocent to get to such a position beats the heck outa me.

[This message has been edited by Tmoneyag99 (edited 4/16/2008 3:40p).]
ordord02
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what happened to some mandatory PE in high school? Wouldn't this test be part of that, where they can at least give you a pass/fail for participating.
Dr. Devil Dog
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That must be frustrating.
rdag04
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quote:
Meanwhile the cafeterias serve very unhealthy food at most schools


all reimbursable meals meet TDA and USDA health and nutrition standards or schools do not get money for the meals. entire meals have less than 23 grams of fat. even a la carte items are regulated. as someone working in upper management at the largest k-12 foodservice production facility i am continuously offended by this. yes, sometimes quality has to suffer for the sake of food safety (i.e. precooked vs fresh products...think poultry), but we do all that we can to feed these kids the best food we can. i work with very hardworking individuals who do the best they can with the resources provided by our government.

next time you make statements about school foodservice, think how hard it would be to feed your family a satisfactory meal for about $.80 cents.



[This message has been edited by rdag04 (edited 4/16/2008 3:57p).]
Represent830
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Whoa... you got rdag04owned.
BigO_02
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Easy rdag,

I don't want to speak for the poster but i am sure they was referring to the pizza, fried chicken and french fries that gets sold daily at school (including the one I work) not the prepared meals provided by food service. I certainly understand the hurdles as well as the struggle with many in Texas on free and reduced lunch coming up with quality products. I think this person was talking in generalities as well as what we all remember of cafeteria food regardless of recent changes.


To answer the question about mandatory PE. Yes, it still exists and legislators still want these tests done with no goals or objectives. Why run a mile just for the sake of running a mile with no objective given on why it needs to be done?

"Cowards die many times before their deaths, the valiant never taste of death but once"
bigfoot10s
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PE is not mandatory in 8th grade at my school. Thats why we have to test the kids during their academic periods. If they would just have a PE class, we might be able to reduce the obesity in the schools. Make it mandatory for them to at least have to walk the track each day. Something would be way better than nothing.

Our cafeteria has healthy food, all low fat milks, baked fries, not fried, whole wheat pizza crust, etc. They strive to make it healthy, and do a fine job.
el aggie
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Our middle school requires PE for all grades (we only have 5 electives total for an 800 student school, so that takes care of a lot of scheduling). Also, our lunch room serves Papa John's pizza, but the entire school is on free lunch, so almost everyone eats what the cafeteria serves, which is just fine.
rdag04
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they was referring to the pizza, fried chicken and french fries that gets sold daily at school


in fact it is state law that pre-fried potato products get sold only once per week in elem. and middle schools. high school has looser regulations. the pizza that is served is no longer the "breadtangle" pizza (to quote strongbad ) we serve pizza on whole grains, with reduced fat cheese and turkey pepperoni. hamburgers are made with 80% chicken. and i think it goes without saying that the fried chicken isn't really fried.

the papa johns you are referring to is sold a la carte...so its basically only available to kids with $$$ (which they usually get from parents or friends). it is NEVER part of a nat'l school and lunch program (NSLP) meal (i.e. the free and reduced kids who are forced to eat school lunch everyday). and often the papa johns and other fast food items sold during lunch are brought in by school organizations as fundraisers. and it should be pointed out that 9 times out of 10 its the PTA that is doing this. so all the parents that complain about this need to think about how they are getting money to pay for those new basketball uniforms (even though it is against the law for outside organizations to sell food during lunch time that competes with the NSLP)

i'm sorry for getting preachy, but not only is this my job, but i take it very personally when people make off the cuff comments regarding school nutrition. it is a tough and thankless job.
el aggie
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I agree. The serving sizes they give are enough to fill me up, and it's not bad food. Whenever a kid complains about being hungry, it's because he used his money that would've bought reduced lunch to buy a bag of chips a la carte instead.
SpicewoodAg
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A&M's legacy policy needed to go no matter who sponsored it. Sorry.

As for this test - I don't know the full history of it - but since this is the first time won't we collect some useful data to evaluate how fit our kids are?
FwoodAg
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We had a PE Hero who wanted to set the school record for the pacer test (the alternative to running the mile) and he overexerted himself and the nurse ended up calling an ambulance.
CrockerAg98
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PE should be a requirement until graduation. My high school would let you skip PE for the semester that you played a varsity sport, but then you had to pick a PE class for the next semester. Hell, swimming was mandatory.
OldArmy07
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If I were in High School and was told to run a mile without being given a legitimate reason I would have run it, but I wouldn't have tried.

Not saying that it's right, but that's what would happen. The "results" you'd get would be hugely skewed and wouldn't prove anything. The athletes would half-@$$ their way through and the larger ones would struggle. Their results would be too similar to prove a point.

Regarding the school lunches and obesity - My school decided to make a pretty penny by offering Chick-Fil-A, Pizza Hut, Subway and some other restaurants in addition to the cafeteria line. Hardly anyone EVER ate healthy food for lunch (even though it was available and cheaper!)

Anyone notice that obesity (especially among young adults) is a bigger problem with those who have more money?

End rant.
runnin'ag
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big O, i feel ya!
this fitness test we are having to give is a joke!
we have 700~ enrolled and i am the only pe teacher (the other one left mid-year and they only have a long term sub in there. . . . need i say more?)
so i am supposed to do all 700 kids by myself, like you said pulling them from academic classes that do NOT want to give them up prior to THE test.
ugh!!!!
BigO_02
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wilson,

that is what I am talking about!! So far during these exercises we have had a blown ACL (waiting on the lawsuit) and what really pissed me off was one of my athletes decided to "run" the mile in 36 MINUTES forcing five teachers who were forced to volunteer their time to watch him. He was doing it just to be a ***** about it. I have timed him at a sub 5:15 mile before. Needless to say I ripped him a new arsehole.

"Cowards die many times before their deaths, the valiant never taste of death but once"
TxTarpon
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...swimming was mandatory.

What did they do?
Take the class into the middle of a lake and throw everyone over?
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