Lexus mechanic (Houston)

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Sazerac
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Any recos?

I haven't been able to diagnose the intermittent Climate Control System Error that I've been having the last couple years. Now more frequent and want to get it solved.

Would like to try an independent before the dealer.
TitanAGGIE09
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https://m.facebook.com/100040968829355/

Teq Auto solutions and off-road

Owner is a Lexus Master tech that broke off to do his own thing.
FamousAgg
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Too many Toyotas in that shop, would not have my Lexus anywhere near those Toyotas 1/10
1agswitchin4lanes
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What's
The error
TitanAGGIE09
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Ha, he's got a pretty big following in the Toyota off road community around here. He's done a few things for me on my FJ and some suspension work. He fixed a suspension issue on a buddies TRD 4 runner that 2 other shops plus a Toyota store worked on and failed to fix.
Sazerac
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It's the same
Climate Control System Error

That comes up on the screen with a blinking A/C button (on the screen).

Very intermittent. Often works fine the next time you start up. And sometimes just taking it off Auto and turning off A/C for a few minutes will allow it to kick back on.

Can't find anything definitive online.

Figure it has to be a sensor.

Has done it for a couple years but recently more often.
1agswitchin4lanes
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Year and model?
Sazerac
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It's the 2012 GX 460 that you've done work on.
robertcope
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In Houston, I would hiiiiighly recommend Todd at Todd's Auto Care: https://www.facebook.com/ToddsAutoCare

Todd spent many years as a Lexus/Toyota tech and regional "fix it" guy, the one the dealers call when they're out of ideas on how to solve something. And he is good people!
aggiedata
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Thanks for this recommendation!
1agswitchin4lanes
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Sazerac said:

It's the 2012 GX 460 that you've done work on.


Ah new username.
aggiedata
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I just dropped my GX470 off with Todd. I'm impressed by his knowledge.
Sazerac
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ok, so have some resolution and thought I would document for other GX owners.

Took it to Clear Choice, independent Lexus service on 59 SW side of town.

They claim
1. They have never had to replace a compressor on a GX in the 16 years in business, so really don't think that's the problem, especially with no code being thrown.
2. There is a lexus TSB (basically help to other techs) they show me on this issue that claims that when there is a coolant leak in the engine valley this can cause the computer to turn off the compressor.

Personally, that sounds pretty strange to me as a failure mechanism. I haven't noticed coolant loss and it doesn't seem like something that would be intermittent. Seems once it sensed this issue it would just stay on.

They send me a pic showing the coolant leak mess and I do some google research that this valley leak - caused by bad Toyota/Lexus gasket - is a well known issue.
GX460 coolant leak - a hidden leak from deep in the engine (carspecmn.com)
several threads on ih8mud

So it's something that is going to need to be fixed soon regardless, but I still am doubtful about the relation to the compressor.

book is 12 hours labor, they quote $1600 (says deal would be $2400), and I tell them if they are confident it will fix to go ahead.

Get the call the next day that they did the repair, took it for a test drive, got the blinking AC light but this time it threw a code (for the first time ever). Needs a new compressor. Of course!

Apologizes, says they will do a deal for $1100 for the valley leak and $900 for the compressor.
I push back and say they certainly didn't spend 12 hours on the repair and I'm worried that the timing seems like they couldn't have let the gasket cure long enough. He agrees that it doesn't take a master tech as long as the book, and there is newer Lexus/Toyota gasket that is a 3 hr cure.

They come back and offer to comp the compressor + install (but still charging for the original $1600 quote). So I got out of there for $1591 with the valley repair and compressor. Not too bad all considered, but it doesn't feel great! 2 year warranty on the whole thing.

He also let me know that besides the valley repair the transmission and radiator on the 2010-2012 are known issues. Never touch the fluid (it's a closed system I didn't plan to). And if you notice any transmission slipping it's time to sell immediately. For the GX he recommended 2015+ only.
drumboy
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That sucks. I had the valley leak on my Tundra 5.7 and the emissions injection valve(s) were damaged during the job so I had to pay for both repairs, but it was like $1,000 combined.
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aggiedata
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Do you like Clear Choice?
Sazerac
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Haven't decided yet.

Think they over charged for the valley repair, regardless of by the book.
I think they thought it would fix the issue.
They cut me a bit of a deal to "comp" the compressor work.

Communicated well.

Free loaner.

Would consider for a major repair / debug. Not convenient for normal service.
aggiedata
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I wrecked one of their loaners once

I guess I'm not welcome back. So. Im ok with that.
1agswitchin4lanes
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Sazerac said:

. Never touch the fluid (it's a closed system I didn't plan to). And if you notice any transmission slipping it's time to sell immediately. For the GX he recommended 2015+ only.


I've serviced A7xx series Toyota transmissions and have never had one fail.

Currently I have a Sequoia I see with 270K AND 60K drain and fill intervals.

It's not closed. It does use WS fluid which Toyota
Defines as lifetime fluid, which is 125-150,000 miles. It's part
Of their marketing department to drive down cost of ownership, just like 10-20K oil change intervals.

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