Buck or others, what is the consensus on the performance of these two? Is the Powerboost a good choice or were there lots of issues with it in the first year?

I haven't towed anything but in my few highway trips to college station or the hill country it's never felt underpowered.

On those trips I've also gotten around 22-25 mpg. Drops pretty significantly when higher speed limit and going 80+. I live in houston and work in the galleria and have seen a pretty significant improvement going to and from work. My eco boost got around 17/18 mpg. Getting 21+ now, depending on traffic. If lots of traffic driving on battery more and get better mpg

Thank you. Great information. No mechanical issues or problems with the PB?

I have 2022 ecoboost with 3.55 axle. Get 21mpg city/hwy right now. Have not towed yet, but probably will haul a tractor this weekend. I will try to report back my mileage on that. I will say this truck gets 4-5mpg better than my 2016 5.0

No but only had it since Mayish and around 2500 miles. So wouldn't put too much stock into that yet

Have noticed a couple of harder shifts or transition from battery to engine but nothing crazy. Honestly less than I had with my ecoboost

I have had a 2021 King Ranch Powerboost with 7.2 kW generator since last June. Over 40,000 miles on it now in 15 months with no issues whatsoever.

Used the on-board power 6-7 times and been clutch to go over the 2 kW of the ICE. Especially the 220 plug.

It has more power than the EcoBoost and will out-drag it to boot. The hard shifts are reduced from an ecoboost because you're not waiting for auto start/stop to start moving. The electric motor starts moving you in the interim.

Better gas mileage as well. The more city driving, the more the electric motor kicks in and helps your MPG go up. On highway it'll be marginally (if any) better than ecoboost. I think Ford hit it out of the park with this one, but I'm still only at 40,000. A lot could still go wrong.

Buck Compton said:

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I have had a 2021 King Ranch Powerboost with 7.2 kW generator since last June. Over 40,000 miles on it now in 15 months with no issues whatsoever.

Used the on-board power 6-7 times and been clutch to go over the 2 kW of the ICE. Especially the 220 plug.

It has more power than the EcoBoost and will out-drag it to boot. The hard shifts are reduced from an ecoboost because you're not waiting for auto start/stop to start moving. The electric motor starts moving you in the interim.

Better gas mileage as well. The more city driving, the more the electric motor kicks in and helps your MPG go up. On highway it'll be marginally (if any) better than ecoboost. I think Ford hit it out of the park with this one, but I'm still only at 40,000. A lot could still go wrong.

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This is pretty much what my customers are saying. City driving uses the hybrid system more for better MPG. HWY driving is 20-22 MPG. I personally haven't got to drive one a ton since most of the ones I see are orders and haven't heard how they tow. I have not seen any alerts from Ford on any issues with the PowerBoost.

I have a 22 powerboost. I will say normal driving and highway driving has been a breeze, but driving in heavy traffic (a lot of stopping and going) isn't a very pleasant experience. In that scenario ive experienced a lot of hard shifts and it just feels clunky with the motor having to constantly turn on and off.

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I have a 22 powerboost. I will say normal driving and highway driving has been a breeze, but driving in heavy traffic (a lot of stopping and going) isn't a very pleasant experience. In that scenario ive experienced a lot of hard shifts and it just feels clunky with the motor having to constantly turn on and off.

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I guess it depends on how you drive it. I really haven't had any issues in traffic or at stop lights. Much better than my wife's ecoboost with start/stop and without the hybrid. I also don't try to slam on the gas just to slam on the breaks in traffic either like she does. I hate the start/stop in hers. It definitely isn't like my old 5.0, but I don't even notice it anymore.

The only thing that takes some getting used to is the purring sound when coasting vs. exhaust.

And to answer the above question, I've now towed with it 4-5 times, once for just a hair over 1,000 miles. Mileage went down obviously, but no different than with the EcoBoost. You did remind me of the only complaint I've had about the truck, though.

My biggest issue with towing was if there is any kind of hiccup or disturbance or resistance in electrical lines, it would constantly alert me that there was a fault in one of the trailer lamps. Like literally every 5-10 seconds it would alert on my screen and beep at me. No way to disable it. Whether you clicked "OK" or not, it would alert again in a few seconds. The trailer lights worked (brand new trailer), as we pulled over and tested them twice.

For the 1,000 mile tow, I would have literally gone insane to get beeped at every few seconds, so I ended up just unplugging and driving that entire distance without trailer lights unfortunately. But that isn't limited to the PowerBoost - it's a software issue.

I think this is a Ford issue. Dad and I swap trailers regularly and his F250 is always yelling about trailer lights, but my GMC never does. Something to do with the grounding at the trailer (painted vs bare metal) making the software angry.

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I think this is a Ford issue. Dad and I swap trailers regularly and his F250 is always yelling about trailer lights, but my GMC never does. Something to do with the grounding at the trailer (painted vs bare metal) making the software angry.

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Yeah, best I could tell was a "faulty ground", but I just couldn't drive 14 hours with it like that. Ford needs to figure that out and push an update.

OK, I took the PowerBOOST plunge. 2023 Platinum with Black Appearance Package. Order has been confirmed and now the wait begins. Maybe I get luck my and it shows up by March 1st?

What's the order lead time on these? 6 months?

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I think this is a Ford issue. Dad and I swap trailers regularly and his F250 is always yelling about trailer lights, but my GMC never does. Something to do with the grounding at the trailer (painted vs bare metal) making the software angry.

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Yeah, best I could tell was a "faulty ground", but I just couldn't drive 14 hours with it like that. Ford needs to figure that out and push an update.

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Go push ALL of the fuses deep into their seats. Almost every one of mine were partially seated when I took delivery of my '21 PB. No issues after.

Not to get political, but the Powerboost and new Hybrid Tundra are the EV model that we should be pushing as a whole instead of full on electric vehicle. It just makes more sense to combine technologies rather than just jump off a cliff.

mts6175 said:

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Not to get political, but the Powerboost and new Hybrid Tundra are the EV model that we should be pushing as a whole instead of full on electric vehicle. It just makes more sense to combine technologies rather than just jump off a cliff.

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Exactly.

This type of technology meshes the best of both worlds. When I fill up my Powerboost I have a range of over 700 miles on one tank.

When sitting at the Sonic, even though the vehicle is on it uses electric power and doesn't pollute or use fuel.

I'm getting 24 mpg, about the same as the Lexus ES 350 sedan I was driving.

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What's the order lead time on these? 6 months?

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I've got one on order right now. From what my dealer told me, 3-7 months.

Thanks Hank, I want a new truck in the September - October timeframe next year so trying to gauge when to order

Damn, you must never really step on the gas the enjoy that extra acceleration… or always drive in the city. I'm not getting anywhere near 24 mpg. And I've never actually got 700 miles going anywhere. That's with over 40,000 miles on the truck now.

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Not to get political, but the Powerboost and new Hybrid Tundra are the EV model that we should be pushing as a whole instead of full on electric vehicle. It just makes more sense to combine technologies rather than just jump off a cliff.

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Eh, different for everyone. For the majority of people that travel less than 50 miles round trip a day, EV's make perfect sense. For anyone who regularly takes long trips, hauls, etc., then I agree. Other argument against hybrid's is you have some complications of both systems vs. just having electric.

Mind sharing how much it set you back?

Hungry Ojos said:

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Mind sharing how much it set you back?

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$80k on the dot after TT&L. Trucks getting crazy expensive, but at least it isn't a $100k Super Duty!

Damn!

So I'm assuming that a powerboost is significantly more expensive than the regular eco boost right?

Reason I asked, I ordered a 2023 King Ranch eco boost FX4 with most of the bells and whistles and ended up at $79k how were you able to get a platinum powerboost for only a grand more????

Well, PB is a $2500 upgrade. Ecoboost is $740. So, that is about $1760 more. If you got all the bells and whistles on a KR, I can see it being just $1000 behind the Platinum. I didn't get a sunroof or Max Tow. Those two things could make up the difference right there.

22 Lariat Powerboost 3.55 gears, 4x4, 26k miles. I drive 100-150 miles everyday to/from/around Ft Worth and pull a 2 horse gooseneck on most weekends (daughter is getting into barrel racing). Averaging 20.1 mpg overall. Pulls the trailer great, never at a loss for power. Also has the generator so I can run the small living quarters on our horse trailer without carrying an external generator. Very happy with this truck and it's the first Ford 1/2 ton I've owned, always been a GMC guy.

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Damn!

So I'm assuming that a powerboost is significantly more expensive than the regular eco boost right?

Reason I asked, I ordered a 2023 King Ranch eco boost FX4 with most of the bells and whistles and ended up at $79k how were you able to get a platinum powerboost for only a grand more????

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That's what I paid for my Raptor earlier this year. The only option I didn't get was the carbon fiber.

Of course, there have been 4 or 5 price increases since I ordered that if I paid for those, it would have been 7 or 8000 more.

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mts6175 said:

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Not to get political, but the Powerboost and new Hybrid Tundra are the EV model that we should be pushing as a whole instead of full on electric vehicle. It just makes more sense to combine technologies rather than just jump off a cliff.

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Exactly.

This type of technology meshes the best of both worlds. When I fill up my Powerboost I have a range of over 700 miles on one tank.

When sitting at the Sonic, even though the vehicle is on it uses electric power and doesn't pollute or use fuel.

I'm getting 24 mpg, about the same as the Lexus ES 350 sedan I was driving.

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Not polluting or using fuel? Ok.

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mts6175 said:

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Not to get political, but the Powerboost and new Hybrid Tundra are the EV model that we should be pushing as a whole instead of full on electric vehicle. It just makes more sense to combine technologies rather than just jump off a cliff.

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Eh, different for everyone. For the majority of people that travel less than 50 miles round trip a day, EV's make perfect sense. For anyone who regularly takes long trips, hauls, etc., then I agree. Other argument against hybrid's is you have some complications of both systems vs. just having electric.

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Not saying there isn't a place for both full EV and full gas/diesel vehicles. Just saying the majority could benefit from hybrid and we don't have to go full idiot mode to get there as a country.

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Buck or others, what is the consensus on the performance of these two? Is the Powerboost a good choice or were there lots of issues with it in the first year?

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I have 5k now on my 22 Powerboost XLT. I haven't had any issues so far and I am pleased with the gas mileage I'm getting. I'm getting 25 mpg on mine. I don't try to hypermile the thing, but I don't have a leadfoot either.

I work in construction and mostly use mine to go from job site to job site. My last truck was a '14 XL where I was getting about 15 mpg.

I was impressed though with my Conroe to Katy trip last Friday afternoon.