US & Texas flags in deplorable conditions -Pi Kappa Phi

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GSS
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The Pi Kappa Phi frat house on FM60, just west of Jones Rd. Anyone have a contact?
They were outside doing a photo op a couple of weeks ago, with some sorority gals. I stopped and asked for the flags to be removed, response was "yeh, we're going to replace them.." Dummies, take them down, in the meantime!
Pics are from today, 23 Jan
Edited to add: this happened in 2023, and 2024, as well. No excuse.

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b0ridi
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No improvement?

https://texags.com/forums/35/topics/3548835
GSS
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No, just add 2025, to the multiple years the frat boys can't even recognize a problem.
EFR
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Koko Chingo
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I believe the American Legion will take the American flags and dispose of them properly
milner79
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Contact the national Pi Kappa Phi office with your story and photo.
Hornbeck
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Koko Chingo said:

I believe the American Legion will take the American flags and dispose of them properly

So will many local Boy Scout troops.
oldyeller
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There used to be boxes in the Bryan City Hall building for dropping off flags for proper disposal. I believe collected flags were given to BSA for appropriately disposing of flags that were no longer serviceable.
Hornbeck
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Usually, someone does that as their Eagle Scout service project.
Tailgate88
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Hornbeck said:

Usually, someone does that as their Eagle Scout service project.


We used to do it every year at Camporee.
maroon barchetta
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Tailgate88 said:

Hornbeck said:

Usually, someone does that as their Eagle Scout service project.


We used to do it every year at Camporee.


Yeah.

Burning flags isn't nearly substantial enough to be an Eagle project.
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maroon barchetta said:

Tailgate88 said:

Hornbeck said:

Usually, someone does that as their Eagle Scout service project.


We used to do it every year at Camporee.


Yeah.

Burning flags isn't nearly substantial enough to be an Eagle project.


Building the boxes for them, securing a place for boxes, and overseeing the disposal is…. Or it was, in the 80s
Tailgate88
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maroon barchetta said:

Tailgate88 said:

Hornbeck said:

Usually, someone does that as their Eagle Scout service project.


We used to do it every year at Camporee.


Yeah.

Burning flags isn't nearly substantial enough to be an Eagle project.


For sure, not even close.
toolshed
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The massive flag at the bank at 2818 and the bypass is ripped to shreds as well. Pretty embarrassing for a bank to allow their flag to get that bad.
plant science guy
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Tailgate88 said:

maroon barchetta said:

Tailgate88 said:

Hornbeck said:

Usually, someone does that as their Eagle Scout service project.


We used to do it every year at Camporee.


Yeah.

Burning flags isn't nearly substantial enough to be an Eagle project.


For sure, not even close.

My project only had 120 man hours and a couple thousand dollar budget and included dirt work and pouring concrete and my committee gave me a hard time about trying to skate by. That was 15 years ago though.
jello123
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Up the road this morning I noticed the flag at the entrance to Butler Animal Science Complex only dangling from one grommet.
GSS
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Tattered flags still in place, an email thread with the "Aggie Interfraternity Council" President last week, had him reaching out to Pi Kappa Phi, now his response is the fraternity is waiting on the property owners.
Pic from yesterday.
BCSWguru
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if this bothers you so much, maybe buy them some replacements and go put em up?
EFR
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Be careful, I caught a ban for saying that.
GSS
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BCSWguru said:

if this bothers you so much, maybe buy them some replacements and go put em up?

That was considered several years ago, but the flagpoles are locked up, the boys are seldom present, and now the responsibility is claimed to be on the "property owner".
So your suggestion is not feasible.
Koko Chingo
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GSS said:

BCSWguru said:

if this bothers you so much, maybe buy them some replacements and go put em up?

That was considered several years ago, but the flagpoles are locked up, the boys are seldom present, and now the responsibility is claimed to be on the "property owner".
So your suggestion is not feasible.

Try the honey, you might even make a friend.

OP,

Show up with a new flag and a 12 pack. Say you are not trying to be a jerk and share why you have such strong feelings about flying a tattered flag and how it's more than a piece of cloth to you. It has a much higher potential of going your way and teaching someone to have a little more respect for the flag throughout their entire life.

While I agree with your sentiment, your approach needs some adjustment. Remember you went on their property and US Flag Code is not law.

When you show up hot and confront them, it instantly becomes an issue besides a tattered flag. I spent 11 years active duty and the rest of my career in the reserve. Even while active duty; when I was that age, I would not have been real happy for someone to come onto my property and point out something I was doing (even if I was wrong). And if I was confronted in front of girls that I liked, I probably would not have reacted like the much older and wiser person I am now. I would imagine you caught them by surprise and also embarrassed them in from of sorority girls.

OP, you have a real good opportunity here to teach and bring some goodwill. Getting angry only affects you. Younger people have a different way of expressing similar values nowadays, I would bet y'all agree on a lot more things that you disagree with. Approach them with a cold 12 pack and a warm smile. You lose nothing if this doesn't work. That will make a much longer impact versus someone just complying with your request.
GSS
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Sent you a DM, with more details. Not as easy to accomplish, as you or I would like.
Omperlodge
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I think it is owned by Pi Kappa Phi but rented to another fraternity. Not sure why they wouldn't fix it even if they are the landlord except this is college kids so who knows.
Hornbeck
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Omperlodge said:

I think it is owned by Pi Kappa Phi but rented to another fraternity. Not sure why they wouldn't fix it even if they are the landlord except this is college kids so who knows.

Because college kids (especially ones in a fraternity) as so thoughtful and respectful of property?
Koko Chingo
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Got it and replied.

I think we are in agreement about flying a torn up flag just differ on how to get them to change it out.
Buford T. Justice
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My first post on this subject got deleted.
I don't know why. Mail a letter to them, informing them of the condition of the flags, and ask that they be replaced.
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