A second fatal accident (in less than a week) happened on 105 between Navasota and 362 this evening. The number of rural residents that need to enter and exit 105, the increased traffic from 249, and the construction/milled roads have made an already dangerous stretch of road increasingly unsafe.

Unfortunately, not everyone is making adjustments based on the current conditions. We regularly see drivers going 80mph and passing with limited line of sight on the hills. Fridays and Sundays seem to be the worst.

Prayers for the people who have been injured, the families that have lost loved ones, and for the safety of our students traveling back & forth during the next few years of construction.

Grimes CO needs to hire two deputies and pay for their salary by tickets on that stretch. People drive like idiots on it. Just make it clear to the drivers "beatings will continue until morale improves ".

EBrazosAg said:

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Grimes CO needs to hire two deputies and pay for their salary by tickets on that stretch. People drive like idiots on it. Just make it clear to the drivers "beatings will continue until morale improves ".

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You could use the same logic for Highway 30 between Carlos and Fitch. Every day is like a Nascar race with people passing in the landfill turn lanes, passing on the shoulders, passing on the bridges. Never do spot any Grimes County sheriffs through there as I suspect they look at that area as the "far side of the county".

People always posting on Facebook" such a dangerous stretch of road" … nope, nothing dangerous about the road it's the people driving on the road that's the problem.

I drive it quite often
Get passed by people driving 90+ MPH, get passed in no passing zone, have seen people pass in the shoulder.
Careless , [ removed] drivers cause the accidents

There are also idiots who drive that stretch going no faster than 50 mph that also increase the liklihood of accidents. Seems I always get stuck behind them...

Same can be said of Hwy 6 , speed is out of control on either side of BCS .

The same can be said for pretty much any highway in Grimes county. Highway 90 has serious accidents often from jerks speeding, passing up hills or on the shoulder. The roads are fine. Jerks who have no respect for their life or others is the problem. There are alot of Houston and Dallas commuters that drive through Grimes county. Those are the culprits.

Grimes county voters have repeatedly blocked the extension of Highway 249 toll way through their county (for fair reasons). From a safety standpoint 249 should extend to highway 6. In blocking any toll roads through Grimes county, TxDOT has been forced to make "compromises" and fatal accidents have followed.


https://www.kbtx.com/content/news/Highway-249-wont-be-tolled-in-Grimes-County-431850223.html

What they left out of that was that Grimes County commissioners wanted it four lanes and demanded that it be free. TxDot told them that wasn't going to happen and built it two lanes.

Short sighted actions from Grimes County officials. I know a lot of people that live there and it was a vocal minority that did that and most people hate it. There will continue to be wrecks and fatalities on that road and it will get widened. Then it's going to be dangerous again because of the construction.

They weren't going to lose any free roads and what they got was a bad stretch of road and an interchange that should have been longer and more safe.

jj.5150 said:

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Same can be said of Hwy 6 , speed is out of control on either side of BCS .

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Sure, but hwy 6 is 4 lanes on both sides of BCS, meaning you can at least pass with a lower liklihood of a head on collision. Hwy 6 also has limited points of entry directly onto the highway. 105 is 2 lane in that stretch with limited visible passing areas, and side roads and driveways enter directly onto the highway/into traffic.

histag10 said:

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There are also idiots who drive that stretch going no faster than 50 mph that also increase the liklihood of accidents. Seems I always get stuck behind them...

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This is a huge problem on 105 between 6 to 249. Way too many people are driving very slow and it leads to attempted passes by frustrated drivers.

I drive 105 two to three times a week and it's no more dangerous than any other highway. As stated above, it's the drivers who think they need to get where they're going 10 minutes earlier than the other cars.

What they need to do is the make Hwy 105 where Hwy 249 merges in to Hwy 6 a four lane highway. Eventually Hwy 105 needs to be four lanes all the way to Conroe.

We live on a road that enters directly onto 105. Before the construction started we would use the shoulder to slow down when we entered our road. Now, the shoulders are blocked and we have to slow down directly on 105 to make the turn. We definitely get people who are impatient and try to pass.

As everyone has mentioned there are many factors in play here. My hope was just to make anyone who didn't know aware, and hopefully give parents a chance to talk to their students before they head back.

Been driving this stretch once or twice a week for the past six months. Strongly agree that law enforcement presence here would help. It's only about five and a half miles from 6 to 249 (which I take); best to just chill out and roll safely.

What makes Grimes County so resistant to a good road? Should definitely not reward that behavior and build a state paid 4 laner if they refused a toll road.

I drive that stretch a lot, too. I don't blame people for going "slow." The construction speed limit is posted at 55 yet everyone still runs at 70. It's a terrible road surface and the lanes change subtly. Speed causes wrecks a high percentage of the time. That and following too closely.

scd88 said:

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I drive that stretch a lot, too. I don't blame people for going "slow." The construction speed limit is posted at 55 yet everyone still runs at 70. It's a terrible road surface and the lanes change subtly. Speed causes wrecks a high percentage of the time. That and following too closely.

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I'm not talking about slow drivers in the construction zone. I get that- I drive slower in it as well because the road is absolutely atrocious. I'm talking about the people coming off 249 heading towards navasota that are driving 50/55 even on 249 (which isn't as big of a deal because you can pass on the majority of it).

And to be fair- it's not just on 105. It's everywhere in this area. I constantly get stuck behind people on FM 2776 and 2223 going maybe 45 or 50.

Oh I see. Yeah, that 249 stretch is nice. Posted speed limit is 65, Apple Maps will tell you it's 70. I drive 70 but still get tailgated until a passing lane. If I'm going 5 over on a single lane road and someone riding my ass, that person can piss off.

Well, okay then said:

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Been driving this stretch once or twice a week for the past six months. Strongly agree that law enforcement presence here would help. It's only about five and a half miles from 6 to 249 (which I take); best to just chill out and roll safely.

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This. It's about 5 miles. Going 50 MPH it take slightly more than 5 minutes to get to either 249 or Hwy6. Going 70, it will be slightly less than 5 minutes. Just accept the 5 minutes on that stretch

why doesn't TX DoT consider extending 249 up to a junction with 6 north of Navasota. Just bypass the whole issue. Any connection at 105 and 6 is going to be a mess without direct connections.

The widening of 105 from 249 to 6 is basically in the books. Two lanes each way with a grass median. There is a plan for ramps directly from 6 to 105 and 105 to 6. I think is supposed to start in 2 years or so.

ratfacemcdougal said:

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The widening of 105 from 249 to 6 is basically in the books. Two lanes each way with a grass median. There is a plan for ramps directly from 6 to 105 and 105 to 6. I think is supposed to start in 2 years or so.

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Looking at the TxDOT project tracker site it looks like they're just starting design on that with a goal of being ready to bid the job in September 2027.

https://ftp.txdot.gov/pub/txdot/get-involved/bry/sh-105/091924-project-layout.pdf

This is the one I have seen. The over pass connections go right through the Shell station

Well, okay then said:

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Been driving this stretch once or twice a week for the past six months. Strongly agree that law enforcement presence here would help. It's only about five and a half miles from 6 to 249 (which I take); best to just chill out and roll safely.

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The Grimes county sheriff's office very well might not have the bodies to do much. Rural or mostly rural counties don't often have a lot of patrol deputies. I don't know Grimes numbers, but I know Burleson, for example, has a total of 6 deputies in their patrol section right now. Working 12 hour shifts, that's only 1 or 2 on duty at any given time.

Even if you assume Grimes has more, maybe 10 total, that's still only 2 or 3 on duty at any one time, for the whole county, and they'll spend a bunch of time just responding to calls.

Not sure how many troopers DPS has in that neck of the woods.

They considered that a decade ago when they were doing the preliminary alignment options. They selected the 105 alignment- don't know why but that decision and the ROW acquisition and engineering and design are old news. It's going on 105.

EBrazosAg said:

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They considered that a decade ago when they were doing the preliminary alignment options. They selected the 105 alignment- don't know why but that decision and the ROW acquisition and engineering and design are old news. It's going on 105.

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I think Grimes County and Navasota shut that down.

That stretch of road was treacherous well before 249 and the construction existed. Many years ago I was behind about 6 cars and a pickup truck behind me tried to go around all 7 of us at once as we were approaching a hill. I pulled over to the shoulder expecting a serious accident. Fortunately it didn't happen but I noped out of going that way until 249 opened up. I'd take 290 to the beltway to get to the Woodlands just to avoid that stretch (and the countless lights in Conroe) until 99 opened up. I warily spend the few minutes on 105 to get to 249 now.

249 is also stupid expensive compared to 99 or the beltway. There have been times when my husband says his GPS tells him 290, or 249 for 15 minutes quicker and about $15

Heck yeah it is. I took someone to the airport to drop off, come back home, then a few days later went to pick them up and bring them back to Aggieland. $50 toll bill in my mailbox. I called about it, and they said "249 is just more expensive than other tolls roads." Never seen a toll bill that high before.

They repainted again to remove the west bound passing lane and turn it all back into a middle turn lane.