Renovate Kyle Field, or Tear It Down?

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ro828
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Now that the Aggies are in the SEC, Kyle Field is going to undergo major changes. The poll in this article in the Houston Chronicle shows support for renovation as opposed to tear down, but it's not by a landslide.

http://blog.chron.com/aggies/2012/04/aggies-plans-for-kyle-field-might-include-new-stadium/
DevilAg03
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Renovate it, then tear it down.
TJaggie14
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Tear down east & west then build. Play a year in Houston, then back to aggieland.
duffelpud
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[troll]A multi-millon dollar facility for a game between twenty-two teenagers that's used for that purpose around seven times a year.[/troll]
Fletch_F_Fletch
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[troll]A multi-millon dollar facility for a game between twenty-two spoiled teenagers that's used for that purpose around seven times a year.[/troll]
FIFY

BigBubba
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[troll]A multi-millon dollar facility for a game between twenty-two teenagers that's used for that purpose around seven times a year.[/troll]
which in return brings in millions of dollars to help fund all the other sports and also brings in millions for the local economy.
jagouar1
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A renovation should happen unless the cost will be far too great or would take multiple years to complete.

A new 100k stadium these days would cost what 500 million (take cowboys stadium and make it half as nice). Seems like a full renovation could be done for much less so I don't think a new stadium would be cheaper.

There was a thread on the football board a few months ago with some fan renderings of what could be done.... was actually quite impressive.

[This message has been edited by jagouar1 (edited 4/12/2012 8:49a).]
AgResearch
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A renovation should happen unless the cost will be far too great or would take multiple years to complete.


This is the problem. It may be marginally "cheaper" but the time and safety aspects trump.
TKDMom
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There are parts of the stadium that are original to the first incarnation of Kyle Field and are starting to really show their age. Overall, building a new stadium would be cheaper in the long run rather than contunually fixing the old one.

Of course, if they choose to build a new one, the question becomes where would they put it? I would guess West Campus somewhere, although you do have a large group of former students who would like to keep it near the MSC and other central campus buildings.
TXAG 05
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Of course, if they choose to build a new one, the question becomes where would they put it


Right on top of the old one
jagouar1
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Of course, if they choose to build a new one, the question becomes where would they put it? I would guess West Campus somewhere, although you do have a large group of former students who would like to keep it near the MSC and other central campus buildings.


I would expect it to be west campus somewhere as well. But that actually would cause problems too because the infrastructure would need to get upgraded as well (parking and roads). Right now they can use all the lots on main and west campus. If the stadium is built on west campus many of the lots would be too far of a walk to be used for gameday parking.

Also would put even more stress on 2818 which is already overloaded and with all the lights now can't handle the normal student/faculty rush hour traffic.
BigPete259
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Renovate it, then tear it down, then build a new stadium, then cut the football program all together due to an unforseen budget cut that was needed. Then open the worlds largest bat zoo and reserve.
SumAggie
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outsource it.
Vox Humana
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Sum made me laugh.

TEXAS A and M
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We could save a ton of money on the renovation if we had the stadium designed by all of the architecture and engineering students on the football team.
W
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bottomline...local businesses need to be preparing for the real possibility of relocated football games in 2014
Koob
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IMPLODE IT!
Fletch_F_Fletch
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Raze alumni side after 2012 season ends, then build new. Be sure to add enough smaller, private boxes to basically double the number of what currently exists in the Zone.

Raze student side after 2013 season ends, then build new, along with double-deck south Zone connections to alumni side. Reposition MegaJumboTron above newly-added South Second Deck.

Renovate/upgrade Zone after 2014 season and add real, branded restaurants for the general public in place of the existing private boxes.

Profit the entire time without abandoning the site and without displacing games.
Mostly Sunny Disposition
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Fletch
LGAggie
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That sounds great! If it were that simple why all the questions? I think 8 or maybe 9 months is a pretty tight timeline for what you're talking about doing to the east and then west sides.
kraut
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Build south end "Zone" to match what was built to the north.

Raze alumni side after the south "zone" is built, then build new. Be sure to add enough smaller, private boxes to basically double the number of what currently exists in the Zone.

Raze student side after the alumni side is built, then build new. Position four MegaJumboTrons in the gaps between the four sides.

Renovate/upgrade Zone after 2016 season (more realistic) and add real, branded restaurants for the general public in place of the existing private boxes.

Profit the entire time without abandoning the site and without displacing games.



FIFY
Mostly Sunny Disposition
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Total Cost of this project is going to range from $300MM (bare bones renovation) to $600MM (brand new stadium).

All options are on the table.
PhiAggie
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And where are you hearing that from?
gopitt
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Build a new one on west campus.
More room for parking, tailgating, etc.
Mostly Sunny Disposition
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Phi... sent you a PM...

gopitt... I agree it would be better for parking and tailgating, and I love that, but you know the nostalgia from some Aggies and past donors to the stadium would have some say about that.
XI XI
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EDIT:
Let me flesh/rephrase this post out a bit.

First off, I love Kyle Field where it is. One of our strongest traditions is tradition itself. The current location offers ease of access to the MSC, green space for tailgating, the Corps dorms, on campus living and life, and has been the home of Aggie football for quite some time. However, it would be foolish to undertake this renovation/construction without at least considering a new site; with this large of an investment, all options must be thoroughly pursued.

Now, as we consider other locations, many responses start and stop with West Campus. I think this is foolish, and misguided. With Kyle Field as a (small) template, the only spaces that lend themselves to a new stadium are Penberthy and the green space behind the Agricultural Department. The green space is immediately a tough answer, as that is mainly flood plain. Penberthy could work, as there is little infrastructure to relocate, but I think there is a better answer.

Our current on campus golf course is an eye-sore, and a money pit, and frankly a not very good course. Our university team has already moved to the Traditions course, and that happens to be the direction that new campus construction and growth is expanding towards. With the Bryan Municipal course nearby, in addition to countless other courses in the area, it seems odd and misguided to keep a full course open that fails to satisfy and costs so much. A driving range could easily be located near Penberthy fields, providing an on campus replacement, and I doubt a contract would take too much work with one of our local alternatives.


If you accept that the current course is an available spot, you are given quite the location.

1) It allows Kyle Field to remain a prominent icon in College Station, placing it near a bustling part of the city complete with recently renovated hotels. No matter what direction you enter College Station from, Kyle Field would be prominent in your view.

2) The plot of land is absolutely gigantic, and would not only be plenty of room for a modern stadium, but would also allow:
* Onsite parking
* Re-direction of traffic ingress and egress, to limit constriction on Texas and George Bush
* Access to 4 bordering streets for traffic flow, that could be enlarged during construction
* Enough room for landscaping and green space around the structure, continuing A&M's movement towards green construction
* Spacial options for a dome or open field design, relocation of team facilities and training centers, and other related structures
* Safe and effective pedestrian zones coming to and from central campus

3) The location provides proximity to Bonfire Memorial and the Administration Building, securing its place in the visual brand of Texas A&M.

4) The field is still easy marching distance for Midnight Yell, and easy walking distance for students (without issues of vehicular or train traffic).

5) Closer proximity to rescue and police services in the event of any critical situation.


Not only are these points good gains for a future multi-use sports complex and football stadium, they are also advantages that west campus locations (or farther away locations) simply do not offer.

Now, this idea does admittedly have some faults. If Kyle Field is indeed relocated, that is a significant amount of money lost in recent construction of football facilities around the current Kyle Field. However, as that is a problem brought up by all new locations, that is moot to the discussion of the golf course as a potential site.

Also, there are understandable concerns about a new monstrous stadium obstructing the approach towards the Administration Building. There is a not so subtle "do not pass" line that extends to both sides of that building, but that has already been broken with the recent construction of Emerging Technologies building. With proper design and utilization of surrounding features, I feel a new Kyle Field could be built on the location of the on campus golf course with little to no impact on the classic approach to the Administration Building.


Proximity to student life on campus should be considered a critical point in the construction of Kyle Field, if it is going to be moved. The golf course provides just that, keeping the heart of Fightin' Texas Aggie football right with the heart of Texas A&M. After all, this stadium is being built just as much for the 12th Man as it is for our football team.

[This message has been edited by XI XI (edited 4/12/2012 11:25p).]
kevmiller
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Building on west campus won't happen IMO.
A&M wants a stadium in the center of campus.( one of the reasons the MSC was rennovated was for football home games) You have the Zone which is fairly new and a multi million dollar facility. The Zone also houses the ticket offices and TMF offices and again are both relatively new. You have the Bright Complex which is state of the art and new right there at Kyle, we have just started construction of the Football complex next to Bright, the grass practice fields, the indoor practice facility..all these facilities are located at Kyle.
They are not gonna want to build a new stadium in a new location and have all the above mentioned away from the new stadium. Not happening,


[This message has been edited by kevmiller (edited 4/13/2012 6:55a).]
SARATOGA
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I see it as a 2 step process...

Build South "Zone"

Stop.
techno-ag
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Build on the golf course.

Or tear down all old parts and build new, dang if we lose a home season. Let's do it right the first time.
PS3D
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What I suggest is do is demolish the South End and convert it to a full "ring" stadium, integrating it with the Netum Steed Lab and the Bright Football Complex.

Check for areas that are structurally unsound, if so, rebuild if absolutely necessary. Renovate restrooms and enclosed common areas.

Then give the iconic maroon KYLE FIELD a restoration.


DO NOT CHANGE THE NAME. I will cry and/or tear out someone's jugular (figuratively) if it becomes something like "Suddenlink Stadium at Kyle Field".

[This message has been edited by PS3D (edited 4/13/2012 10:27a).]
Mostly Sunny Disposition
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Could care less if it gets a "X Stadium at Kyle Field" name if it means heavy money flows into it and lessens the burden on A&M.
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