Thoughts on Businesses or Products marketed to Christians

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songstress
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I just read an article for a class I have to teach this week that focused on marketing to Christians.
I am curious...How do you feel about a business or product that 1. Donates money to Christian organizations? (Youth groups, camps, etc...) or 2. Has a Bible verse or other Christian emblem on their product or displayed in their business?
Would this affect your patronage of the business or purchase of the product if you are a Christian? A non-Christian?
songstress
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The article was about marketing to Christians, not the class.
rhoswen
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I don't care who they donate to, unless they're advertising it. I don't see the point.

As for bible verses & whatnot, it's going to make me less likely to go to them. It seems like they're making a concerted effort to sound more honest and trustworthy than they are, imo.

I am not a Christian.
rock the good ag 90'
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I am a Christian, and yet I always have some reservations about doing business with someone that has a "God fish" or "Jesus fish" in their ads.

There was a time in the past where the owner of a company I worked for made a point to try to do business with a company that professed to be Christian, even though the price was higher than a competitor, and it turned out to be a bad situation. And we never did business with them again.

How many times have you seen bad driving out of someone with a "God fish" on their car?

My opinion is that you should show me that you are a Christian by how you conduct yourself, not by how you label yourself.
mymainname3
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I avoid businesses that promote religion or a political preference. I feel these are private and personal whether I agree with them or not. In my own businesses, I do not let our stores display any signs endorsing candidates or religous events. If it is a Christian Bookstore, then that is their whole business model, IMO, other stores should avoid this as you will most likely offend the other side.

rhoswen made a great point too. People have become wiser to marketing ploys that say "Christian Business", it looks like a marketing ploy.

Very different and interesting topic to post! I look forward to all the opinions on this one. Think of some more topics like this to post!

[This message has been edited by mymainname3 (edited 9/22/2009 1:37p).]
BurnetAg
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quote:
How do you feel about a business or product that 1. Donates money to Christian organizations? (Youth groups, camps, etc...)

That doesn't bother me at all.


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2. Has a Bible verse or other Christian emblem on their product or displayed in their business?

I would not shop there. Just bad experiences in the past.

Would this affect your patronage of the business or purchase of the product if you are a Christian? A non-Christian?
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I am a Christian
syrei
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Unless it is very clear who the charity is and what they do, I don't care whether or not a business is donating to a charity. Generally, the only time I want to see something about a charity is if something I am doing is directly influencing a worthwhile cause or I don't mind seeing personalized thank you's from a charity directed to a business. Otherwise I don't like businesses trying to do a "look at me, I donate to a charity" thing.

[edit]Oh, and to add -- I am christian.

As far as religious displays in a store, if has a type of store where standard artwork is displayed and they add in a piece of religious art, it won't bother me. I also don't mind religious or holiday merchandise as long as it is not totally out of place. As far as trying to actively promote a relgion in a store, I'm not for that.

[This message has been edited by syrei (edited 9/22/2009 1:57p).]
AgWag00
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I DO make an effort to eat at Chick-fil-A, and shop at Hobby Lobby. They are Christian companies that quietly do business the way they have for decades. The fact that they give their employees off on Sundays (to worship and spend time with family) says volumes about their business ethics. Even though I'm sure it costs them money to not be open on Sundays, they stick to their guns. Admirable.
songstress
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Keep your opinions coming!!!
The article did say that Christians are very savvy about businesses trying to "look good." Chic-Fil-A was not mentioned in the article, which interested me because they are one of the most openly Christian run businesses. The whole point was that businesses do not target Christians because it is considered "taboo" but this is a segment that is very conscientious and loyal once their business is earned.
mymainname3
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We will all know when the founder of Chick-fil-A dies.
AgCPA
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I am Christian and yes it could very well influence me to buy. Depending on the need or product.
Max06
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I find it to be similar to those businesses professing "Aggie Owned and Operated" or "Aggie Class of ____".
chucktheaggiejeweler
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I think it puts them on my radar to find out more. If you claim it, you better come through in your business practices, or I will be more upset with you, than if you did not.

Chick-fil-A is a great example. Craig and his wife do a lot for the community, hire visibly great folks, and run a great business. They do not make a spectacle of what they do, but it is easy to see the good they promote.

I always sign here or anywhere else with "God's Peace". It is something I wish for anyone, whether or not they believe. I have never had a complaint, but I have had it questioned. It is my personal wish to spread peace, by my actions, by my business, and I know I have to back that signature up in that case. I would hope that would not turn someone off.

Again, if you put it out there, you better operate on a higher standard in my book.

JM$.02

God's Peace,
Chuck

chucktheaggiejeweler
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This thing keeps double posting! Perhaps caffeine and clicking the mouse don't mix?

[This message has been edited by chucktheaggiejeweler (edited 9/22/2009 4:58p).]
NearAwesomeness
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I'm a Christian who's wary any time God and money get thrown into the mix together. You can't serve both, and I'm not particularly good at sorting out my own motives when it comes to choosing between the two (and know a lot more like me who are also not particularly good at this).

I don't see a problem with #1. #2 bothers me - why not let the quality of the product speak for itself? Why try to tinker with people's perception of your product by invoking God's name? That feels to me like slimy salesmanship.

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The whole point was that businesses do not target Christians because it is considered "taboo" but this is a segment that is very conscientious and loyal once their business is earned.

Loyal to people, I could see that. Loyal to a business/brand name... this idea bothers me. There may be some truth to it, but I don't see how to reconcile it with serving God and not money. I realize there's a fine line there.
Findlaydy
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I've agreed with NearAwesomeness in the past and I am again. Well said!

Marketing phrases are tricky, I think, and can turn off the very segment of consumers that you're trying to attract if you're not careful. For example (and I'm not thinking of any specific business), it was attractive 20 years ago to say that a business of event was classy, or had class. Then lots of people jumped on that bandwagon and eventually you knew that anyplace that described itself as "classy" wasn't!

There's a similar phrase that describes creativity that was pithy 10 years ago, but now implies lack of originality, just because it has been so overused.

I also agree with previous posters - very interesting topic!




Blessed are the flexible, for they shall not be bent out of shape.
taxpreparer
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The donation thing is none of my business, and does not influence me one way or another.

The advertising as "Christian" affects how much slack I will give them on how they treat me. I feel if they are going to advertise that, when it come to customer service, they had better be willing to "go the second mile" to prevent bad service or correct an error.
Wie Geht Es Dir
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This is a touchy subject for me as I'm probably what you would call the "black sheep" in a very religious family. As i've grown older, I've developed my own opinions and beliefs based on personal experience and observation, and have grown distant from the church. When you start talking about mixing business with religion, you lose me right away.

I would never dream of pushing my beliefs on anybody else, in my personal or professional life. There are just too many differing beliefs out there, yes even here in BCS, to risk turning someone off by making religious affiliations known or advertised. I've seen the dark side of these things far too often and feel, like many others have said in this thread, that those businesses are trying to promote themselves in a very "grey" manner. Like Chuck said, they had better hold themselves to a different standard if they preach and promote such things...if not, they'll prove all the skeptics right time and time again.

I kept my own personal religious views under wraps, even from my family, for most of my life for fear of repercussions. I now have a sister that won't even speak to me because what I believe is not what she believes. She fears that I am now a negative influence on her children, so my relationship with them is essentially non-existent now. Thankfully, my parents have seen that I'm still their loving son and have been able to accept me and still love me for the same person I've always been.

For a group of people who claim they are non-judgmental, accepting, and offering salvation...they sure are good at excluding those who don't see it exactly the same way. People that know me realize that I'm an extremely generous, giving person, who has nothing but love in his heart. My actions dictate what people think of me, and I'm sure you'd be hard pressed to find anyone who thinks negatively of me...outside of my family at least. And that is the real problem in my eyes, because it's all based on a stringent belief system that gets distorted and corrupted. If there is a Heaven, I'm confident I'll end up there because of the way I've lived my life, not by which God I've prayed to.

Be careful if you claim Christianity or market that way because you risk alienating more of the population than you realize. I went to church three times a week my entire life, but I will not patronize your establishment. I don't have a care in the world about what you do at home, but I will not walk into your business just on the off chance somebody in there will try to recruit me into something that I don't want to be a part of. Or worse, lead me on and then disappoint me because you aren't really the people/business you claim to be.

Kind of a long windy rant, but I hope it makes sense, or hits home to at least a few...
treloni
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In the past, I would have chosen a Christian business over another offering similar products and services. I guess I liked the idea of solidarity with others in the Christian community, and wanted to "help them out" by patronizing their business.

However, I changed my mind after I realized that I couldn't really think of a good reason why I should do this. I honestly believe that "support" and "solidarity" is something that should be shared with all people, based on their equitable value as a fellow human beings, not their "salvation status".

That type of arrangement also puts a lot on the line for Christianity and Christians. If you advertise yourself as a "Christian business" but screw up or do something unethical, beyond damaging the reputation of yourself and your business, as every other normal business would experience, you also reflect Christianity, Christians, and the message that they preach. I've personally seen and experienced this, and it is disappointing and disillusioning to say the least.

The other thought I had on this, is: isn't this kind of like using God or Jesus in an endorsement deal, but not ever receiving their permission or compensating them? Do you even know if they'd WANT to sponsor your product/business?

My $0.02.

-Treloni

Stoney
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Makes me leery.
I also will not do business where political campaign materials are openly displayed.
skeetboy3
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Christian:
I do not conciously let religious symbols and/or posted scriptures drive my decision. I will, however, make an effort to bring my business to people who I know are Christian--outside of the business.
I like to see businesses donate back, but will not be the determining factor in my overall decision.
SaskAg
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I don't think Christianity (or any religion I suppose) should be used as a marketing tool to sell products or services (exeption might be Christian books etc.

It just doesn't seem right to me for some reason.


dachsie
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It doesnt bother me at all unless they are trying to force their religion on me. I am shopping for a product, not for a church.
benMath08
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I don't think Christianity (or any religion I suppose) should be used as a marketing tool to sell products or services (exeption might be Christian books etc.

It just doesn't seem right to me for some reason.

I agree. Your religion is private.
taxpreparer
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Your religion is private.


I disagree. Your religion is personal, but should affect the way you live and relate to others.
FortySomethingAg
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If you are a trustworthy and ethical person there is no reason to use God to gain credibility. In my experience in the real estate business the person who freely talks about God has the worst ethics.
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