I've got some Berry vans and priors creeping into my coastal field. Does anybody have any good experience for herbicide to kill these weeds?

Anything that has picloram or triclopyr will get them. If it's anything that has a waxy leaf, mix in a good surfactant to make it stick to the leaf.

Any idea of names of herbicides with those incredients? Thank you

Grazon. P+D is what I have used.

Triclopyr is most often associated with the product Remedy. It (Remedy) does use a vegetable oil based carrier, so mixing it with water (cuz you probably don't want diesel, for grassy areas) might be an issue.

Edited to add: if you don't have a license, triclopyr may be your best bet, as the Grazon products are restricted herbicides.

GSS said:

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Triclopyr is most often associated with the product Remedy. It (Remedy) does use a vegetable oil based carrier, so mixing it with water (cuz you probably don't want diesel, for grassy areas) might be an issue.

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Also sold under the name Brushtox, which is slightly less expensive.

I have no advice other than that Roundup's active ingredient now is triclopyr. So it should be easy to find.

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I have no advice other than that Roundup's active ingredient now is triclopyr. So it should be easy to find.

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Based on the `net, the Roundup "Lawn and Garden" products are the ones w/o glyphosate. For the big box customers, most likely.
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The new active ingredients in Roundup Lawn and Garden Products are: fluazifop-p-butyl, triclopyr TEA salt, diquat dibromide and imazapic ammonium (As per Bayer website: RoundUp Active Ingredient Safety | Bayer Global). Not all products contain all four active ingredients. Here is the use for each active ingredient:

• Fluazifop-p-butyl Post emergent herbicide for controlling grasses.
• Triclopyr TEA salt Post emergent herbicide for controlling broadleaf plants.
• Diquat dibromide Nonselective post emergent herbicide to desiccate plants. This causes visible signs of damage quickly.
• Imazapic ammonium Pre and post emergent herbicide for selected grasses and broadleaf weeds. This helps extend weed control.

I'm a huge believer in Duracor.
Worked for me on everything I needed it to from honey locust and mesquite, to horse nettle to thistle and cocklebur

GSS. When would you use Grazon P+D vs Remedy?
Will Remedy do everything Grazon does plus the woody stuff like small regrowth saplings?
I sprayed about 100 acres that had regrowth small red oaks, white oaks. They were maybe 3ft-4ft tall or shorter.
Initially I thought I got a good kill. Did not bush hog the area for about 8 months. This spring it all came back with a vengeance. I applied with a good ionic surfactant and even at a higher concentration of Remedy that was called for. Any advice appreciated. Much obliged.

We have never used Remedy in a foliar application, only as a basal (bark) treatment, the typical diesel/Remedy mix, so can't comment as to your issue.
When we spot a "mature" honey locust, 6-8" in diameter, and kill it by a basal application, that's a testament to triclopyr effectiveness.

Maybe research Sendero, get feedback on its use for foliar application brush/small trees.

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We have never used Remedy in a foliar application, only as a basal (bark) treatment, the typical diesel/Remedy mix, so can't comment as to your issue.
When we spot a "mature" honey locust, 6-8" in diameter, and kill it by a basal application, that's a testament to triclopyr effectiveness.

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I've done straight 61.3% triclopyr in a foliar application on yaupon and cat brier. It will yield results much quicker than basal spray or cut stump treatment, but doesn't seem to kill the roots in more established plants.

Thank you a lot. Appreciate it.

harleyds2 said:

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Any idea of names of herbicides with those incredients? Thank you

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For picloram, I use Surmount.

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Ag83 said:

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I have no advice other than that Roundup's active ingredient now is triclopyr. So it should be easy to find.

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Based on the `net, the Roundup "Lawn and Garden" products are the ones w/o glyphosate. For the big box customers, most likely.
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The new active ingredients in Roundup Lawn and Garden Products are: fluazifop-p-butyl, triclopyr TEA salt, diquat dibromide and imazapic ammonium (As per Bayer website: RoundUp Active Ingredient Safety | Bayer Global). Not all products contain all four active ingredients. Here is the use for each active ingredient:

• Fluazifop-p-butyl Post emergent herbicide for controlling grasses.
• Triclopyr TEA salt Post emergent herbicide for controlling broadleaf plants.
• Diquat dibromide Nonselective post emergent herbicide to desiccate plants. This causes visible signs of damage quickly.
• Imazapic ammonium Pre and post emergent herbicide for selected grasses and broadleaf weeds. This helps extend weed control.

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And it sucks ass too.

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Maybe research Sendero, get feedback on its use for foliar application brush/small trees.

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Sendero has a lot of restrictions if you're using it in a field for hay production.

Remedy is going to be the best one for triclopyr. As someone else here said, this stuff works so well, I'm surprised the EPA hasn't found a reason to ban it.

I want to make sure I'm understanding correctly. I have been following the thread as OP seems to say his has some broadleaf vines creeping into his coastal field.
I have a Bermuda field that annually also gets broadleaf weed species growing in it. Not woody sapplings or such. Just broadleaf weed species. So you guys are saying I should be using Remedy on that? TIA.

No. Remedy is better formulated for brush/woody species. Keep using 2,4-d on your broadleaf weeds. We used to add a little Grazon P+D to a weed spray mix to get the tougher broadleaf weeds. But it's not needed most of the time.

Perfect! Thank you. It won't hurt by Bermuda right? Here in the Ozarks we just got Bermuda not Coastal B.
Also Fescue fields. Thanks again sir.

Gunny…if only broadleaf weeds, would 2-4D not be a good go to??

Picloram products are Tordon and Triumph along with the others mentioned.

HTown Ag 98 says I should use 2-4 d. I just asked him to make sure it doesn't hurt my Bermuda or Fescue fields.
I've always used Grazon P+D but if 2-4D works it's a lot cheaper….and I'll use that.

HTownAg98 said:

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GSS said:

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Maybe research Sendero, get feedback on its use for foliar application brush/small trees.

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Sendero has a lot of restrictions if you're using it in a field for hay production.

Remedy is going to be the best one for triclopyr. As someone else here said, this stuff works so well, I'm surprised the EPA hasn't found a reason to ban it.

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The Sendero reference was for Gunny's sapling regrowth, not the OP's hay field question. I should have referencesd it. Thread drift...

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HTown Ag 98 says I should use 2-4 d. I just asked him to make sure it doesn't hurt my Bermuda or Fescue fields.
I've always used Grazon P+D but if 2-4D works it's a lot cheaper….and I'll use that.

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You're already using 2,4-D, in your Grazon... plus some picloram. And Corteva making their cut.
Straight 2,4-D in our area crept up enough in price, we switched to Grassmaster, same % of 2,4-D, plus Dicamba, for $8 more per 2-1/2 gallons.

Sounds good. I'll look into Grassmaster. Thank you on the Sendero recommendation. I've got to re spray that whole pasture so I'm going to give it a try.
Thank you and to all that have given me advice. Much obliged again!!

I use Crossbow for vines and broadleaf. It is water based triclopyr and 2-4D

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GSS said:

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We have never used Remedy in a foliar application, only as a basal (bark) treatment, the typical diesel/Remedy mix, so can't comment as to your issue.
When we spot a "mature" honey locust, 6-8" in diameter, and kill it by a basal application, that's a testament to triclopyr effectiveness.

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I've done straight 61.3% triclopyr in a foliar application on yaupon and cat brier. It will yield results much quicker than basal spray or cut stump treatment, but doesn't seem to kill the roots in more established plants.

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Same for me with small yaupon and even huisache at 50% mix.

Gunny456 said:

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I want to make sure I'm understanding correctly. I have been following the thread as OP seems to say his has some broadleaf vines creeping into his coastal field.
I have a Bermuda field that annually also gets broadleaf weed species growing in it. Not woody sapplings or such. Just broadleaf weed species. So you guys are saying I should be using Remedy on that? TIA.

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The P in Grazon P+D is picloram, trade name Tordon. It will take out some woody species, but also has a ground residual. This is helpful, depending on your timing, as it will prevent reemergence after the "D", ie 2,4-d, kills the emergents broad leaf weeds.

I have about 10 acres of bottom that floods a time or two a year from a creek. I add Tordon there with the regular 2,4-d to suppress China berries that floated in from emerging. I don't normally buy the P+D mix but mix 2,4-d and Tordon myself for the areas that it is warranted. Sort of like weed and feed on a lawn; I want each chemical only when needed, so I fertilize and spray separately. But that's me.

ShinerDunk93 said:

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I use Crossbow for vines and broadleaf. It is water based triclopyr and 2-4D

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Does it work on balloon vine?

Anyone have any other recommendations?

In hay ground. TIA.

I repeat my suggestion…

Duracor

No license requirement and the stuff works well on a lot of things

Love all the input…with exception of remedy and sendero they all require an applicators license which i do not have. Effectiveness of remedy on vines and briars?

I have had great success with sendero on mesquite and locust with foliage spraying

All the discussion is great

Remedy doesn't work great as a foliar treatment on greenbrier; there's not enough leaf and those leaves are pretty tough. However, the diesel/remedy basal treatment is deadly on them, and it doesn't take much. A little squirt of the mix on the stem close to the ground, and they're toast. Remedy does work well on other vines as a foliar spray.