I have a guess but also like input


Top 2 same deer. Bottom 2 same deer









Top deer right bottom deer left

Top 5 1/2 at best
Bottom 4 1/2 at best

Really hard to come to a confident year age with a couple of b&w cam pics. To properly age on the hoof you need to observe the deer as he moves/walks and from more detail of his body, face, head,, etc.
On these two they are " mature" as generally speaking. One (top) a little more than the other.
To go further would be a guess range of 4.5 to a possible 6.5.
Nice deer. Look healthy.

looks like covid super seniors...choot 'em jr...and enjoy hunting without the regret!!!

Top I have at 5 or 6, bottom looks to be younger.

Agree with the previous comments.

I agree with these guys

Top. Minimum 5.

Bottom. Minimum 4.

Maybe older.

Top is old enough to take. Bottom is younger. I'd say 6 and 4 but like NW80 said, you got young, mature, post mature. Putting a number too it is impossible without knowing them since birth. That said, top deer is mature enough to shoot,

Yeah, I would shoot the top one and let the bottom one walk.

Yall are really good. I believe they are 5 and 4

It also proves you can judge them on hoof and be extremely close even with a couple of black and white early season pictures.

I have both the deers going back 3 and 4 years. To what I assume is thier first set of distinct character antlers.

Low fence small acreage.

You are very fortunate to have been able to watch those deer grow up on a small acreage low fence place. Don't know where you are at, or what size places your neighbors have and the hunting pressure they put on the deer, but deer like that would usually have been killed by your average week end Joe lease hunter and never would've made it to maturity. Good going that you have let them mature.

Guessing age range of "mature" deer gives you an age range of 4.5-6.5. 6.5-8.5 "old" and 2.5-4.5 "young" age ranges are typically much harder to accurately age without observing more detail.

I think top is 6

Bottom is 5

Besides other traits, typical features of 6.5 or > deer are:
1.) Sway back or beginning of
2.) Legs look too short for the body
3.) Butts are squared off and no longer rounded.

I don't see the above in either of these two deer…..what say you guys?

On the tall tined main frame 8:

1. bedding marks on his front knees, visible in two different pics
2. rear hips much more triangular than his counterpart
3. Look at the way his rear hips collapse in that last pic

That all tells me 6+, but obviously camera history trumps that.

Night time pics smooth out a lot of things that a daytime pic will show. The sway back is very camera angle dependent in my experience, don't see it as much when a deer is feeding, more so when they are standing and head up.

The point I made exactly on my first post. To have some confidence of aging on the hoof the deer needs to be evaluated in live motion and looked at in detail from different body angles and positions and studied if possible with a good set of binocs.
Studies and data have shown that many on hoof agings are influenced by area/locality, range conditions, body conditions, etc and are typically skewed. Even more so with still pictures alone.

6/5 or 7/6