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EskimoJoe
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My 9 year got to drive his winter project around the neighborhood for the first time.

Yes, it needs a bath. 180 miles at 70 mph won't get rid of 10 years worth of shop dust.



Sound up!

coolerguy12
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She's a beaut Clark!
Rexter
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He looks like he's been out workin all day. Got that farmer's stare...
Gunny456
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Outstanding. Very cool.
CanyonAg77
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Nice. What year is the D? Obviously it's 1938 or older, and is it a spoker or anything fun?
EskimoJoe
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Rexter said:

He looks like he's been out workin all day. Got that farmer's stare...


It's bred into him, on both sides. Tractors and steam engines are what trips his trigger. One hobby is way more affordable than the other so we play with our tractors and enjoy looking at other folks' steam engines.

EskimoJoe
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It's a 1930. Nothing too special about it other than being one of the 2 that Dad had, the one he never could get running. A serial number search leads to the registery on yesterdaystractor.com where a guy in Texas bought it in 1999.

In the garage is a '38 D I bought last month that was directly behind 3 industrial Ds on the assembly line.
EskimoJoe
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Thanks! He is pretty proud of it!
tx1c
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Sounds like the 1919 tractor we saw entered into one of the Ag Mech shows we went to last year.
It's crazy knowing these things are 100 years old (or close to it in your case) and can still run.
So impressive!
BurnetAggie99
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I have my grandfathers Ford 8N tractor.
EskimoJoe
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tx1c said:


It's crazy knowing these things are 100 years old (or close to it in your case) and can still run.
So impressive!

The beauty of these old machines is the simplicity. This tractor only has 2 wires on it: one going to each spark plug. The motor is a 501 cubic inch (8.2L) 2 cylinder that you start manually by hand. It only turns at 800 rpm wide open, so it is only making roughly 1/3 the revolutions as a modern machine and therefore 1/3 the wear. It is a very analog machine. It was not built with gauges. It does have a rod that raises up out of the crankcase when it has oil pressure. You will know it is overheating when coolant starts coming out of the radiator cap. You need to be in tune with the machine to start and run it.

95 years ago, the carburetor was built with a coark float which was prone to becoming saturated and sinking. Along the line they switched to a brass float, but it could crack when you try to adjust the setting, which happened to me. Strangely enough, the carburetor is quite similar to what was used on Indian motorcycles back in the day. The antique motorcycle guys have developed a float made of nitrophyl, which works quite well. I wound up using one and am very pleased with the latest technology in the 95 year old carburetor.
CanyonAg77
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I think it was common "back in the day" for manufacturers like Deere to source parts from other makers. Lots of the old ones had Zenith carbs, so no surprise that Zenith made carbs for other companies

I've got a 38 JD unstyled L, and the engine is made by Hercules. Deere didn't make their own engine for the L for another 3 years or so
EskimoJoe
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You're probably right. Remember the mini Screaming Jimmy in the 435?
CanyonAg77
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Was that the Detroit Diesel? Seems like that was model 435?
EskimoJoe
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Yes, it was a 2-53 Detroit

"Made more noise than horsepower"



edited to get the correct video link
jtp01
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Obligatory picture from the Museum in Dumas. This collection belonged to my wife's great uncle. We still have several projects that are in various states of restoration.
CanyonAg77
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Here's my collection of restored tractors, the John Deere Unstyled L, and the Gibson Super D2.

Can be seen at the Hale County Farm and Ranch Museum, Hale Center, Texas



And the L with some old guy at the helm, pulling a trailer with all of our kids, their spouses, and all four grandkids, as well as three great-nieces in a 4th of July parade.

Trailer is a JD chassis from the 1920s or 1930s

EskimoJoe
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Those are cute! I have a similar family pic from 2023 when the inlaws had their first reunion since the grandparents passed. In the mean time we had found and bought the 1940 B that was on the farm when my father in law was growing up. The boys all learned to drive on it. None of them had seen it in close to 40 years. We hooked it on the trailer and one of the wife's cousins gave rides around the park.

This is the current collection except for the '28 D that is down at Mom's.

CanyonAg77
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Dad had a collection of about 30 tractors. When he passed, we didn't have the time or money to deal with his collection, my brother wasn't interested, and the storage was not secure. If you want to see what he had, here's the web site we put up for the auction, and never took down.

https://www.troystractors.com/
EskimoJoe
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BurnetAggie99 said:

I have my grandfathers Ford 8N tractor.


It's nice to have that connection. It's like Roger Creager's song "I got the guns".

It looks like my neighbor has taken up restoring N series tractors.

EskimoJoe
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Nice collection!
EskimoJoe
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CanyonAg77 said:

Dad had a collection of about 30 tractors. When he passed, we didn't have the time or money to deal with his collection, my brother wasn't interested, and the storage was not secure. If you want to see what he had, here's the web site we put up for the auction, and never took down.

https://www.troystractors.com/


I remember you posting about the auction. He had quite the nice collection. The Averys are not something we see up here. It would have been nice to snag one. At the time we were saving up $$$ for some projects we had going, so $$$ responsibility had to happen. I sure wanted to bid though.

vin1041
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That is awesome!
Centerpole90
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The influence of Texags on my behavior is accepted practice in my household. This '38D has been collecting dirt and sparrow droppings in the back of the shed long enough that when MrsCP saw me pulling a DLTX carb body out of the ultrasonic cleaner yesterday evening... she knew some outside influence had bumped it up the project que:

"TexAgs?"
"EskimoJoe."
"Dinner will be ready at 8."

2 1938 Models: My Dad, and the D.

EskimoJoe
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Glad to be a positive-ish influence!
BenTheGoodAg
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jtp01 said:

Obligatory picture from the Museum in Dumas. This collection belonged to my wife's great uncle. We still have several projects that are in various states of restoration.

I was scrolling past this... And I could swear I caught a glimpse of my grandaddy's farm truck at the end of the picture. And that's because it is! In fact, that building was named after him (c/o '55).

I've shared this story on the Auto Board, but I didn't know his truck ended up there. I took my kids up to Dumas to look at some of our old tractors there and rounded the corner and was overwhelmingly surprised to see it sitting there. When no-one was looking, I opened the door and just the smell made so many memories come flooding back. They even kept all the stuff in the bed just like he had it (buckets, shovels, baling wire, etc). It was like being teleported back in time.

It's like he was right there with me for just a moment. I don't think my kids understood, but dang allergies. Such a great surprise. He never suffered, so I was always at peace with him passing away and not having a chance to say goodbye, but that was a nice moment of closure I didn't even know I needed.

There's a great story posted on the windshield. One day, he was out working on a center pivot irrigation sprinkler, and he parked his truck and was walking down the sprinkler, trying to find an issue. He got about a quarter mile away, found and fixed the issue, and then started walking back to his pickup. What he forgot about was that he parked directly in the path of one of the towers, and so he got to slowly watch it mount itself on top of the hood of his truck. He refused to carry a cell phone and was in his 70's, so he couldn't do much about it from so far away.

Eddie was a good man and a great Aggie. There's a lot of great legacies left by people who have things in that ended up in that museum.
Centerpole90
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Keeping this party going:

I've kept up with Eskimojoe and his two older D's for a while and when he added the '38 I was in a project hole. Since I also had a '38 this seemed like a good time to dust it off; it's always good to have someone to bounce stuff off. This tractor has always been hard to pull through when starting and the engine compression doesn't seem the same on each cylinder. The second thing could be due to valve adjustment, valve seating, piston/ring seal in the cylinder... et. al., but the fist thing always stymied me. I was told by the PO that he bought the tractor from someone using it in antique tractor pulls, so let's get into it and see what we have. Into the shop we go after a good pressure washing. Pulling the hood and fuel tank was just the start of the madness.



I fiddled with the carb a little and had it running again in the shop but the old problems persisted and a new one showed up (leaky carb float)... going to be down a few days waiting on parts, why stop now; better to just totally disassemble it. lol. Off with the radiator (6 fasteners).



Now we are getting somewhere, looking down the double barrel bore of the horizontal 2 cylinder design that Deere used from its early days until 1959 (Dubuque production tractors protected). That's 6.75" bore/side comin' at ya.



To this point I have used exactly these size wrenches: 9/16, 3/4, 7/8, and 1-1/4 for the head bolts. That's it, 4 tool sizes and I could have the pistons out. It's almost comical to compare it to rummaging through the toolbox for 16 wrenches and 2 specialty tools to change the headlight of a modern car - and you can practically, wait ACTUALLY, overhaul this tractor with 6 wrenches.

Mystery number one solved: why this tractor was so hard to pull though when starting it - these inserts were bolted to the face of the the flat-top pistons to raise the compression ratio. Little doubt the PO^2 did this for their antique tractor pulling - but I am going to do away with them and happily go back to the stock 3.9:1 compression ratio. I don't know what the resulting compression ratio was with these in there but I know it's enough to make your guts hurt if the tractor doesn't start with a few turns of the flywheel. The cylinder bores look good - which makes sense, these pistons are 0.090" over indicating a rebore sometime along the way.



That's where I stopped for now, one piston out.

Next I'll give the head/valves a really close eye to see if I can decipher the differential in compression between cylinders.

Deerdude
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BurnetAggie99 said:

I have my grandfathers Ford 8N tractor.


I just bought my wife's grandfathers 8N. Paid a great uncle way too much but just wanted it.
agenjake
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I thought this was going to be about Green Jay's.

But this is better.
Gunny456
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Sure enjoy your pics! Thanks for sharing!
Gunny456
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Very cool.
EskimoJoe
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Deerdude said:

BurnetAggie99 said:

I have my grandfathers Ford 8N tractor.


I just bought my wife's grandfathers 8N. Paid a great uncle way too much but just wanted it.


You didn't overpay. Had it been any other 8n you might have, but you didn't over pay on this one.
B-1 83
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Morris?
Being in TexAgs jail changes a man……..no, not really
jtp01
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Morton
Centerpole90
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Because I shared shop pictures just yesterday I'll leave this here: what a shop view today...


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