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Can anyone ID this gun and saber

1,934 Views | 8 Replies | Last: 3 yr ago by TXCAV
Big Al 1992
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From great great grandfather. Believe it is civil war era. Been hanging up at folks house for years and have know idea - and don't know any good stories to go with it.




Cannon Crew Ag
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Pictures of the engravings just above the hilt could help. Manufacturers of the era often times stamped their markings there since it generally got the least damage and stayed with the steel if the handle or blade guard were swapped.
schmellba99
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Saber looks like a M1840 wrist breaker. There should be some samps on the blade just above the bass hanguard, if you can get a pic of those it would help.
Gunny456
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It's pretty hard to identify, with any certainty,
the rifle with the pictures you have supplied here. I will say that it appears to be of small caliber... most likely .36. It is a rifled barrel rather than a smooth bore.... and has a set trigger for accuracy. These type of rifles were built and used for hunting and gathering food for survival.... but of course also used for protection. These were manufactured by quite a few craftsman in the Pennsylvania/ Connecticut area during that era..... The smaller calibers were used mainly as small game hunting calibers because frankly the smaller calibers used less lead and gun powder And those two items were at a premium on the frontier.
It would not have been really a preferred battle weapon in the civil war... but that's not to say it was not used.
Cool original piece of American firearm history for sure.
Typically... somewhere on the barrel by the breech end or on the lock would be an engraving of the name of the craftsman who built it.... and perhaps the location like Lancaster Penn. etc.
Big Al 1992
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Thanks all - great info!!
TdoubleH
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I don't know much about it but let me call a guy to come down here and check it out.
RM76
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The lock system looks odd to me. It's possible it may have been modified from a flint lock to percussion cap lock.
texags08
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TdoubleH said:

I don't know much about it but let me call a guy to come down here and check it out.


Let me have a buddy come check it out.

I'll give you $5. I gotta sell it. How many people walk in off the strip to buy civil war era arms? It's gonna sit in the case for a year.
TXCAV
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Contact the guys over at Collector's Firearms if you want a true appraisal. Sword is def a cavalry pattern, possibly an M1840. Gun looks like it could be a flint conversion Kentucky style rifle, possibly from the 1830/40s.
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