Sorry if this has been posted already, but this is nuts.

https://www.ammoland.com/2022/07/fbi-arrest-of-florida-man-for-short-barreled-rifle-showcases-absurdity-of-nfa/

Imagine the man hours and tax dollars spent on this "sting", to put a man with no criminal record who already has paid nfa taxes on other items behind bars.

All for using one piece of plastic called a stock on his gun instead of a different piece of plastic called a brace even though they look and function essentially identically.

Now remember how many previous mass shooters have extensive histories of social media posts full of crazy threats, criminal records, etc and remember the FBI chose this guy as a target worthy of their time and your money.

Boy howdy, dont you feel safe and free?

We're all good guys until someone decides we aren't.

Is there any way a case like this can gain traction to become super high profile to the point that some high speed legal counsel can get him off? Is there any legal protection for a good guy like this? Surely there is some argument for infringement or something. That's what these slimy lawyers do. It's what they are for.

It seems this is one of those esoteric type of things a lot of people would be pissed off over if they knew it was a thing. Sure, we know it's a thing, it's in our back yard, but there are a lot of folks to where this is 'out of sight, out of mind".

I'm afraid to say anything about how I truly feel just because I don't want to be on any additional watch lists.

Wonderful use of resources and tax dollars.

He plead guilty thinking he'd get probation and the judge threw the book at him. So no real opportunity to run this up the court system.

The DOJ will threaten to throw the book at you if you don't agree to their relatively light plea bargain deals. They don't want you to go to trial and potentially set precedent that will hurt their efforts to infringe on your 2nd amendment rights going forward. So they offer a deal that leaves you no choice compared to the risk of losing at trial. Example (2 years vs 20 years) They still get their conviction with not much risk for them.

It's such a screwed up system, when fighting for your innocence could ruin your life. Especially when we're talking about victimless crimes but otherwise law abiding citizens.

That sucks.

So, serious question, how does one go about legallly fixing crap like this? Of course the best thing is to vote such that it never starts but now that it's a thing, how do you get it undone? I'm talking about the NFA. Obviously, mounting an armed resistance isn't going to be appropriate, so, what is. How to you vote this kind of crap away?

Speaking of awesome atf rules, this pistol brace limbo is ridiculous. The fact that any day now they can make a few 100k people instant felons is nuts

This!
I am afraid this will become the norm if we don't change our present gov. Imagine how the red flag laws will be abused.
At the end of the day the law abiding citizen is the victim and who they want to disarm.
It has nothing to do with " saving lives".

What it also does is stifle those who the 2nd amendment really matters to. I don't know about y'all, but stuff like this makes me indelibly weary to talk about guns I may or may not have. So then the narrative becomes the one spewed by the anti gun nuts, who think a semi AR shoots 30 rounds per second, and not the one by actual gun users.

Hide your butthole, boys, bc it looks like the ATF is trying to **** us

Did I read that correctly that the FBI was using an illegal immigrant as an informant allowing him to avoid prosecution by ICE??

cslifer said:

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Did I read that correctly that the FBI was using an illegal immigrant as an informant allowing him to avoid prosecution by ICE??

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You did.

Overstaying your visa? No problem, you can work for the stasi as an informant and stay.

American citizen not paying a $200 tax on an arbitrary law? Dude is lucky he is only going to jail instead of watching an FBI sniper murder his wife in front of him.

Spot on. Their end goal is to make all good guys with guns look like we are all bad guys with guns to the people who have no guns....

I have to wonder if the recent slap down of the EPA in regards to making its own rules beyond the specific mandates of congress imposed in the law itself might have application with the ATF making up its own rules regarding how it will interpret and enforce gun law?

We have some ohe absolute dumbest gun laws on the books. Flat out ******ed in every aspect, and it is maddening that we cannot get any actual logic applied.

The NFA makes zero sense and saves no lives, but it is an incredible tool that the anti gun commies in the ATF can use to club supporters of their political opposition. The anti-gun lobby has their own federal enforcement agency, which is absolutely insane!