Hop wrote a few articles for The Firearm Blog the past couple years, but I think they must have parted ways recently. Usually he was stuck reviewing the latest offering of Taurus or other also-rans.

Anyway I really enjoyed this and thought it was a pretty unbiased take on a beloved platform.

That was awesome

"You are a stupid person" and "clone ***" for the win

I much prefer my APC9 Pro over my 9CT. No fault of PTR...it's a good clone and shoots fine. I just really like the B&T ergonomics better...so much so that I SBR'd mine. I'd really like a MPX as well and will probably sell the PTR at that point.

javajaws said:

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I much prefer my APC9 Pro over my 9CT. No fault of PTR...it's a good clone and shoots fine. I just really like the B&T ergonomics better...so much so that I SBR'd mine. I'd really like a MPX as well and will probably sell the PTR at that point.

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These type of videos really make me recognize how well setup the AR platform really is.

I want an AK but, rock and lock mags, right-side charging handles, closed bolt, and 2-3 MOA if it's good, make me question if it's worth it from a performance stand point.

javajaws said:

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I much prefer my APC9 Pro over my 9CT. No fault of PTR...it's a good clone and shoots fine. I just really like the B&T ergonomics better...so much so that I SBR'd mine. I'd really like a MPX as well and will probably sell the PTR at that point.

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Yeah, you have to be careful with B&Ts.... I'm on my 4th right now... It's become CZ level obsession for me.

I'm a B&T fan, and B&T is a big improvement but really for one critical reason - the rails; second is cocking

But All subguns suffer the same issues by design - going SBR solves one problem (as the gun was intended).

And I don't think subguns were intended to be NV mall-ninja accessory gatherers so rails etc are lipstick on a pig

Can you get an mp5 clone in .45?

Sully Dog said:

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Can you get an mp5 clone in .45?

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They are out there

texrover91 said:

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That was awesome

"You are a stupid person" and "clone ***" for the win

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Came across him a couple of weeks ago and I love it. I know his dry commentary is not for everyone but it is tailor made for people like me.

Thanks,


Let me rephrase. Any mp5 clones or carbine pistols people would recommend in .45?


ETA: It's a highly effective round inside 100 yd, cheap ammo, and subsonic

Eliminatus said:

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texrover91 said:

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That was awesome

"You are a stupid person" and "clone ***" for the win

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Came across him a couple of weeks ago and I love it. I know his dry commentary is not for everyone but it is tailor made for people like me.

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Yeah this is my first time viewing him definitely book marked!

TSJ said:

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These type of videos really make me recognize how well setup the AR platform really is.

I want an AK but, rock and lock mags, right-side charging handles, closed bolt, and 2-3 MOA if it's good, make me question if it's worth it from a performance stand point.

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The more time you spend with any other semi auto rifles, the more you'll appreciate the AR.

That being said, every American should own one AK. Know how to run it to better appreciate how much better we have it with ARs, and its fun buying a former symbol of communist oppression on the free market as a private citizen.

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Thanks,


Let me rephrase. Any mp5 clones on carbine pistols people would recommend in .45?


ETA: It's a highly effective round inside 100 yd, cheap ammo, and subsonic

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HK never made a factory .45 MP5. Your only option that I'm aware of would be the SW45, but Special Weapons stopped making them 10-15 years ago. IIRC, they used grease gun mags. You might be able to find someone willing to sell on hkpro.

The UMP does come in .45 if you want to go that route.

There's a group called Thor doing a 45 MP5 clone but I know nothing about them

The best option for a production roller delayed .45 is LWRCI SMG 45 - about $3k

Cheapest available option for Non roller delayed is buy a USC 45 and do the UMP conversion, or, find an Omega shadow 45ACP ( if you can find one)

Or you can go non-delayed B&T APC45


Roller delayed makes for a smoother shooter but you'll pay more but for a .45 it's nice - but if you aren't shooting full auto you may not need it

Any opinions on the CMMG Banshee in 45? I kinda want something like that as well...

Thanks

Aero95 said:

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Any opinions on the CMMG Banshee in 45? I kinda want something like that as well...

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Haven't shot the Banshee but I'd buy one

https://www.sportsmansoutdoorsuperstore.com/category.cfm/sportsman/ar-15-pistols-for-sale/brand/cmmg

Man these posts are really making me want a B&T apc10 more and more!

cledus6150 said:

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Man these posts are really making me want a B&T apc10 more and more!

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Just gonna leave this in stock link here...

https://www.rainierarms.com/b-t-apc10-pro-10mm-pistol/