I've never considered a red dot on a pistol. I can see how it's useful but my question is whether it's intended for use as a carry pistol? I ask because many have a motion activated system but it seems like as a carry pistol it would be in motion all the time and the battery is likely to die at the most inopportune time.

I'm bringing this up because I see Sig is coming out with the 365X, which is basically the 365XL lower with the 365 slide length and a red dot. Trying to decide if that's a reasonable new CC option. I like the idea of the 365XL lower and 365 length, just not familiar with the red dot for a carry pistol.

The battery life on any quality red dot for a pistol will be fine. I have several RMRs I leave on all the time.

Change batteries on your birthday or with the time change if it bothers you.

I held one of those 365s you are talking about.

I am sure some people will disagree with me, but I have never given much thought to the sights of my carry gun. All I carre about is how fast I can pull it out of my pants, holster, whatever and shoot it three times accurately at a mass from fifteen feet. I have always judged my carry guns on how much of an extension of my hand they feel, if that makes any sense.

Dont get me wrong, sights are important, but how much faster could that be over regular sights in when you have half a second to move?

I thikn red dot scopes on carry guns are for the most part just tacticool. And thats great and would be fun to own and shoot. But they would make zero impact on what I would actually want in my hand the next time I really needed a gun to defend my life. Give me a gun that draws easy, fits good in my shooting hand and is accurate out of one hand, and is relatively powerful.

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I held one of those 365s you are talking about.

I am sure some people will disagree with me, but I have never given much thought to the sights of my carry gun. All I carre about is how fast I can pull it out of my pants, holster, whatever and shoot it three times accurately at a mass from fifteen feet. I have always judged my carry guns on how much of an extension of my hand they feel, if that makes any sense.

Dont get me wrong, sights are important, but how much faster could that be over regular sights in when you have half a second to move?

I thikn red dot scopes on carry guns are for the most part just tacticool. And thats great and would be fun to own and shoot. But they would make zero impact on what I would actually want in my hand the next time I really needed a gun to defend my life. Give me a gun that draws easy, fits good in my shooting hand and is accurate out of one hand, and is relatively powerful.

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I completely agree.

If it's an every day conceal carry, for self defense, most real life uses will be within 6-10 feet. Right?

This is worth a read.

http://docs.wixstatic.com/ugd/7dc128_50a7c57f2d284e53bca8584a7f7925b1.pdf

Long and short of it is that when actually tested in live fire drills and force on force with simunitions, red dot pistols did demonstrate a clear advantage over irons.

People commonly create a hypothetical scenario to justify why what they are carrying is sufficient. It's reassuring to do.

A red dot is not a replacement for training and practice. If you can afford either a class this year or a red dot, I would pick the class every single time.

That being said, having done force on force classes, low light classes, etc with both irons and red dots: I'm slowly converting most guns I would actually carry over to red dots as funds and time allow.

They're better, and I think its safe to say most anyone whos done much serious training with them agree. Irons aren't awful, but red dots are really good.

BenderRodriguez said:

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A red dot is not a replacement for training and practice. If you can afford either a class this year or a red dot, I would pick the class every single time.

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This.

Read and re-read this before just putting a red dot on your gun.

https://www.modernsamuraiproject.com/reddotpistol

Trijicon RM02 6.5 MOA. It is light activated and auto adjusting. It comes on when exposed to light, then automatically adjusts to ambient lighting conditions. Battery life is two years under carry situations.

I have used the type 1 for years, until it died and Trijicon replaced for free, out of warranty. The specific advantage of this sight iver any other I know of is the self adjusting brightness; it regulates in the blink of an eye. The only functional downsides are if I used it with a weapon mounted light, in the dark, the dot got washed out by the light, and when shooting from a darker position at a target in a much brighter target (think Champion's indoor range).

With my older one did have intermittent flickering, which Trijicon foxed for me. I don't have any actual range time with the Type 2, but my son is a cop and has been carrying one since they first came out and has not experienced any of the reliability issues I had with the Type 1, he also says the lighting mismatch is better with the Type 2.

If I were going carry a red dot, this is the only one I would consider.

Shooting with a red sot is different than with irons, and there is a steep learning curve. You must practice a lot- but dry fire will suffice for the most of that.

Got Ty e Romeo1Pro for my p320x

Is my first red dot on a pistol and I ain't going back

I only have one eye and and am fortunate that it is my naturally dominant eye. Red dots are at godsend.