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96AustinAg
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The Rib and I are starting to look at rural acreage that I can hunt on now, and we can retire to eventually. Anyone in real estate or financing that could give me a rough estimate on the going interest rates for a longer term loan (20-30 years)? No credit issues.

Thanks!
Daddy-O5
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I've looked at these off and on for years. Usually around 6%, I've talked to Capital Farms a couple of times.

(Also in, just "in" to follow if anymore/updated info)
mosdefn14
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Not sure on a rural land loan, but I'm familiar with alternative sources depending on equity situation...cash-out refi's can be had in the low 3s. Securities backed lines mid 2s to 4s.
CapitalFarmCredit
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SanAntoneAg
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I've got a current preapproval letter from both Capitol Farm Credit and Texas Farm Credit for a possible rural
land purchase. Both have interest rates in the 4s. Both also pay patronage which may get you down a point or two annually.

Don't expect to get rural land interest rates that are comparable with home interest rates.
Gig 'em! '90
upgrayedd!
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I recently got 3.75% on a 30 year term with 25% down on a variable term that can adjust every 5 years. Fixed was 4.5%.
upgrayedd!
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I actually did and saw similar rates from another lender as well. Ag America and Lone Star Ag Credit.
KALALL
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First Liberty National Bank gave a family member of mine 3.099% on a 15 year note for rural land.
GasPasser97
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Wish I had 20% down for a purchase
96AustinAg
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Yeah I'm not going to be able to cough up 20 or 25% on 250-300k of land. Using my existing house for collateral, etc. would be no issue.
SteveBott
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If you have significant equity in your home do a cash out for down payment.
texrover91
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upgradedd said:

I recently got 3.75% on a 30 year term with 25% down on a variable term that can adjust every 5 years. Fixed was 4.5%.


On unimproved average? That's insanely good

And not a lot of people lending 30-yr fixed at 4.5% for raw land
texrover91
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kaleb_allison said:

First Liberty National Bank gave a family member of mine 3.099% on a 15 year note for rural land.


That's a good rate but how much down?

texrover91
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GasPasser97 said:

Wish I had 20% down for a purchase



You should be able to find 15% down if it's qualified AG land with production (grazing lease, hay, etc)

But you might be limited to a 15-year term and maybe not the lowest rate
96AustinAg
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SteveBott said:

If you have significant equity in your home do a cash out for down payment.


That... is an idea. We probably have 150-200k in equity
GarryowenAg
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Forgive me if I'm detailing the thread. I have been wanting to buy a small spread (200-300 acres), but I don't see how we could possibly afford it. How do y'all make it work on top of a mortgage and other fixed payments?
SteveBott
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Take your appraised value of home. Times that at 80%. Subtract mortgage balance= available equity or cash out.

I can do a 80% cash out on a 30 year fixed for 2.875-3.0, no points.
KALALL
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25%
texrover91
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08N.Ftw.Ag
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In for updates as well. Didn't realize 25% was the std down payment for unimproved land....
Alta
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Are the interest rates being quoted in this thread for raw land with no improvements? They seem quite high from what I've been quoted and others I know who recently bought say 40-200 acres. All of those have had some improvements such as roads, etc. on them and in one case a house as well.
texrover91
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Alta said:

Are the interest rates being quoted in this thread for raw land with no improvements? They seem quite high from what I've been quoted and others I know who recently bought say 40-200 acres. All of those have had some improvements such as roads, etc. on them and in one case a house as well.


House makes a huge difference - improvements like a barn or barndo as well. Just depends on the lenders policy and if they accommodate for recreational land as a consumer purchase. Most banks will put it in one of a few buckets - consumer / recreational purpose, commercial or AG production

Land with a home or plans to build would generally qualify as a consumer purchase loan with terms closer to a primary mortgage on a homestead. If it's a second home the rate might be slightly higher. Max LTV should be around 80%-85% and most banks will go out to 30 years depending on the LTV

Also the land banks are going treat land differently for obvious reasons. Many of those are also coop so you qualify for an annual dividend if he bank declares a dividend. Most are pretty consistent with the dividend but some might miss a year or two based on income

Banks look at it based on the security interest (the collateral) - land with a house has less risk of default and easier for the the bank to unload in the event the borrower defaults.

Also depends on the market. If you buy raw land in Collin County where the valuation is much higher than the AG income can support you'll probably get more questions from the lender. The regulatory requirement for non-state banks is 65% loan to value if it's perceived to be a speculative investment

Alta
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Very helpful - thank you.
96AustinAg
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We would probably be a minimum of 6 years out from building a house on it. Some of the parcels I have been looking at have water, electricity, or both available from the road that the land borders. Do either of these factor in whether it would be considered improved vs unimproved, or does the threshold for being "improved" require a structure in place on it? Smallest I have looked at is 16+ acres, the largest was ~37 acres.

If I have read correctly, improved vs unimproved can have a substantial impact on required % down as well as interest rates.
CapitalFarmCredit
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96AustinAg
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CapitalFarmCredit said:

What you can find with Capital Farm Credit:

  • Up to 85% financing is available
  • 5-30 year terms with fixed rates
  • Simple process (digital application)
  • One on one banking relationship
  • Significant history of strong patronage performance
  • Loans | Capital Farm Credit




I reached out to one of your local offices late last week but have received a callback yet.
New Boot Goofin
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Have you tried Heritage Land Bank?

We recently did a cash out refi to take advantage of the low interest rates.
AgLA06
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Say we're pretty interested in a .5 to 1 acre parcel that backs up to National Forest in a neighborhood in New Mexico. Can I use a Texas lender or would it need to be a New Mexico lender?

Probably looking to do a house in 5 years.
texrover91
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96AustinAg said:

We would probably be a minimum of 6 years out from building a house on it. Some of the parcels I have been looking at have water, electricity, or both available from the road that the land borders. Do either of these factor in whether it would be considered improved vs unimproved, or does the threshold for being "improved" require a structure in place on it? Smallest I have looked at is 16+ acres, the largest was ~37 acres.

If I have read correctly, improved vs unimproved can have a substantial impact on required % down as well as interest rates.


Those can be used to qualify the land as "improved land".

I think the land /AG banks (such as Capital, Heritage, Lone Star) and possibly a community bank in that area will be the strongest lending options. The land banks will probably be the most favorable for getting you what you want in terms of LTV and maturity.


Goof luck!


Cowboy Curtis
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Dumb_Loggy said:

Forgive me if I'm detailing the thread. I have been wanting to buy a small spread (200-300 acres), but I don't see how we could possibly afford it. How do y'all make it work on top of a mortgage and other fixed payments?

Stop paying for health insurance
texrover91
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AgLA06 said:

Say we're pretty interested in a .5 to 1 acre parcel that backs up to National Forest in a neighborhood in New Mexico. Can I use a Texas lender or would it need to be a New Mexico lender?

Probably looking to do a house in 5 years.



Depends on the Bank's loan policy - if New Mex is in their "trade area" I'm sure they'd consider it - or make and exception to their policy. Helps to have a relationship at that bank to get an exception to policy but not necessarily required at all banks -

So answer is "check with your bank".

AgLA06
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Anyone have suggestions for a bank in New Mexico then? This would be Ruidoso/ Cloudcroft area.
texrover91
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Where are you located?
AgLA06
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Houston.
texrover91
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I can make a couple of introductions to Houston lenders but I can check for New Mex and see if I have a contact
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