Anyone else follow Randy's schedule for San Augustine and have great results for their grass but also always the hit the hardest by seasonal bugs?

I am still in my starter home and its not the best neigboorhood. So many houses around me dont give an F about their yard. When my grass is peaked I have the best in the whole hood.

however, every year I get slammed by some kind of bug that destroys my yard. and my neighbors who I know dont lay a bit of fertilizer, are green right now. Drives me insane.

my buddy who I put onto Lemmon, has a very similar situation.

Do you have pictures? Is it destroyed to the point you have to re-sod or is it mostly brown patch? Have you applied a fungicide?

My first thought given the time of year would be brown patch.

https://thelawncarenut.com/blogs/news/brown-patch-large-patch-lawn-disease

I have no idea but the part that is straight brown(a lot) will easily pull up from the roots.

as of now I have just left it as is. I dont have time to resod right now(if thats the only fix) and I dont even know if its the right time of year for it.

Bugs love to swarm to thr healthiest greenest lawns and setup shop. Chinch annihilated me this year.

St Augustine is a ***** and will look for creative ways to die no matter how well you treat it. Too much water? Fungus. Too little water? Stress and fungus. No reason at all? Take all root rot just because.

It does really seem to be a time sink. The more time and effort you put in, the more time and effort it requires.

Milwaukees Best Light said:

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It does really seem to be a time sink. The more time and effort you put in, the more time and effort it requires.

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This is so much how I feel right now. At this point I'm just going to throw maybe a generic Scott's next spring and that's it.

Cromagnum said:

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Bugs love to swarm to thr healthiest greenest lawns and setup shop. Chinch annihilated me this year.

St Augustine is a ***** and will look for creative ways to die no matter how well you treat it. Too much water? Fungus. Too little water? Stress and fungus. No reason at all? Take all root rot just because.

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It freakin sucks. Especially bc I work so hard on it.

TommyGun said:

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Do you have pictures? Is it destroyed to the point you have to re-sod or is it mostly brown patch? Have you applied a fungicide?

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I will post a picture after work.

no fungicide..I am so sick of applying crap lol. But I will do that if you think I need it.

You could still have sod worms. I noticed those SOBs still flying around my yard.

October (Optional) Fungicide for brownpatch

October to November Fall feeding or winterizer (Use ratios with higher-than-normal potassium - the third number - such as Nitro-Phos Fall Special 8-12-16)

Where are you generally? It could be that St. Augustine isn't really suited for your area and you'd have better results with something else.

aggiedata said:

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You could still have sod worms. I noticed those SOBs still flying around my yard.

October (Optional) Fungicide for brownpatch

October to November Fall feeding or winterizer (Use ratios with higher-than-normal potassium - the third number - such as Nitro-Phos Fall Special 8-12-16)

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I've been battling the moths/sod worms every year with my San Augustine grass. If you don't catch them early, they will decimate your yard!

gigemJTH12 said:

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Milwaukees Best Light said:

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It does really seem to be a time sink. The more time and effort you put in, the more time and effort it requires.

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This is so much how I feel right now. At this point I'm just going to throw maybe a generic Scott's next spring and that's it.

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A light layer of compost works better than anything I've ever used

Cromagnum said:

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St Augustine is a ***** and will look for creative ways to die no matter how well you treat it.

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based on previous threads and comments, it sounds like St Augustine is the sheep of the groundcover world...

DOCAG79 said:

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aggiedata said:

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You could still have sod worms. I noticed those SOBs still flying around my yard.

October (Optional) Fungicide for brownpatch

October to November Fall feeding or winterizer (Use ratios with higher-than-normal potassium - the third number - such as Nitro-Phos Fall Special 8-12-16)

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I've been battling the moths/sod worms every year with my San Augustine grass. If you don't catch them early, they will decimate your yard!

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Even if you do catch them early, they come back later on from neighboring properties or the back of your own acreage property because treating every square inch is not practical from a financial standpoint. Seems to be a no win situation the last few years since that plague began.

Webworms in Ft Bend are effing horrible this year. This is first year ive ever had them. I did the 3x spray in 14 day window plan and still had some. *******s.

DOCAG79 said:

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aggiedata said:

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You could still have sod worms. I noticed those SOBs still flying around my yard.

October (Optional) Fungicide for brownpatch

October to November Fall feeding or winterizer (Use ratios with higher-than-normal potassium - the third number - such as Nitro-Phos Fall Special 8-12-16)

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I've been battling the moths/sod worms every year with my San Augustine grass. If you don't catch them early, they will decimate your yard!

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I saw moths fly out of my yard last week. I'm mounting a full attack early this year. I put down Bug Out granulars. I see BT on the shelves still. Buy it now while you still can. It's a war out there!!

I am 100% convinced his schedule gives you the best yard in the neighborhood when its at its peak but the absolute worst when it gets bad.

me and one buddy do his stuff to the T and we both have incredibly embarrassing yards right now.

my neighbors who don't fertilize at all have pretty decent grass right now. I have almost none. Horrible weeds and clover too.

I am done with Lemmon.

gigemJTH12 said:

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I am 100% convinced his schedule gives you the best yard in the neighborhood when its at its peak but the absolute worst when it gets bad.

me and one buddy do his stuff to the T and we both have incredibly embarrassing yards right now.

my neighbors who don't fertilize at all have pretty decent grass right now. I have almost none. Horrible weeds and clover too.

I am done with Lemmon.

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I am staying with a modified Lemmon. It is heresy, but I am using the Scott's fertilizer and schedule and using Lemmon for herbicides. I also aerate and compost once per year. But, the webworms destroyed me last year. Lost 1/4 of my yard and will be laying new sod in a couple of weeks.

The best my yard has ever looked is back when I used Scott's stuff from Home Depot. The worst? Following Lemmon's organic schedule.

so good to read someone else on here say it.

its depressing.

I don't think Lemmon recommends organic over his synthetic. He has an organic schedule for organic people, but always notes it will not out perform the synthetic schedule.

Quick deep green use: Nitro-Phos Sweet Green

Yard needs help: use Medina liquid fertilizer; alternate every month between Medina Hasta Grow Grass and Medina Plus Soil Activator