I know what I think they are but the location is off. Cedar and mesquite dry hill top in Burleson County. Thinking I might clear the cedars from around them and fertilize.
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Oak Tree ID?
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It looks similar to a live oak. Did it just drop all of it's leaves and pollen pods in the last couple of months? If so, probably live oak.
Water oak
Some leaf pics are similar to live oak but I agree with BQ98, water oak. Live oak doesn't have that upper smooth bark on a tree that big.
Kind of weird to have the odd out of place tree around. I've got a few on my ranch that are interesting. I've always just attributed them to a bird crapping out a seed?
Get rid of cedar, undergrowth and trim up the canopy and it will likely take off big time. Those cedars are like a cancer sucking all the water away.
The leaves and bark do look like water oak. But it does seem odd with that crown form and on that site.
May be on a spring?
May be on a spring?
I thought they were water oak but there's some Texas oaks I'm not familiar with so didn't know 100%. I found three of them in about a 100 yard area. Might be more once I look around better. Rocky sandy soil with clay and solid rock not far below.
Looks like tomorrows project will involve firing up the saw on the cedars.
Im assuming if they are growing there then planting more should work well. My luck, someone planted them 50 years ago and they're just now 20ft high.
How susceptible are they to oak wilt?
Looks like tomorrows project will involve firing up the saw on the cedars.
Im assuming if they are growing there then planting more should work well. My luck, someone planted them 50 years ago and they're just now 20ft high.
How susceptible are they to oak wilt?
Water oaks can grow very fast. I have some In my backyard that started to sprout last spring. I flagged them and started to take care of them, eventually creating some diversity in size and age. I have about five trees that are well over 70' tall, but no "young" ones.
First pic of from Easter 2019. Second pic is from yesterday. One year of growth. Crazy ...
First pic of from Easter 2019. Second pic is from yesterday. One year of growth. Crazy ...
There are some water oaks in my parents back yard I planted that were a twig with two or three leaves on them when I was about 8 or 9. 35 years later, they are 20 inches in diameter and probably 60 feet tall.
What are thoughts on fertilizing my new found friends? I have a bag of triple 13.
Stay away from triple 13-have you ever done soil samples out there? If you get too much phosphorus in the soil it will take years to correct. I've used Lesco 28-3-10 for the past 25 plus years on water oaks in tree farms I've managed in Harris and Ft Bend county. Also use it on my tree farm in fayette county with great results to date.
what would happen to them if they get too much phosphorus? I've got several different variety of oaks I planted in south tx and have been using T13........some are absolutely kicking A and others are not thriving as expected.
I got my degree in Forestry in 92 but haven't been in the industry for a long, long time. that being said, occasionally interesting little tidbits from that time are always percolating in my brain. I remember from one class a professor made note that when you are walking through the woods and you come across a group of trees that don't seem to belong, keep a close eye out. Most likely someone planted them. Look for signs of a dwelling of some kind. You never know what you might find. I came across some interesting remains of cabins and whatnot on occasion thanks to that little bit of info.
The same with things like finding day lilies growing. It can indicate a grave site. We found a grave in a proposed right-of-way because of a little patch of day lilies in the middle of nowhere.Quote:
I remember from one class a professor made note that when you are walking through the woods and you come across a group of trees that don't seem to belong, keep a close eye out. Most likely someone planted them. Look for signs of a dwelling of some kind. You never know what you might find. I came across some interesting remains of cabins and whatnot on occasion thanks to that little bit of info.
Excess soil phosphorus ties up iron, zinc and other micronutrients in compounds that can't cross plant cell wall. Typically the trees will exhibit reduced vigor and chlorotic (pale to yellow) foliage. Makes them susceptible to secondary pathogens.
water oak
I like them but haven't had long term success with mine. The water oaks at the park in College Station are really nice however
I like them but haven't had long term success with mine. The water oaks at the park in College Station are really nice however
Cleared everything from around them today. Felt bad knocking down some post oaks but no shortage there. I actually found about 10 total but all small. Makes me wonder how old they are.
Holding off on any fertilizer for now. Took soil samples to get tested.
Holding off on any fertilizer for now. Took soil samples to get tested.
But can it be used to smoke meat tho?
DP
Water oak doesn't impart too much smokiness in my experience, but it's great for fire places.
Another what type of oak is it? Found in a bottom area next to the navasota river. It has survived two floods so far including being totally submerged during the growing season for 3-4 straight weeks. The only thing that grows around it is swamp privet. Would like to ID so I can plant more.
Surrounding vegetation to give an idea of the area.
Surrounding vegetation to give an idea of the area.
My uneducated eye says water oak.
Oaks are notoriously hard to ID when they're very young. Look for other mature oaks nearby to ID.
OP: Looks like water oak, which is definitely weird, but not unheard of. I wouldn't do anything to fertilize at first, unless it's really mild and organic. Something that's been there that long has probably adapted to natural conditions and could be shocked by too big of a change. Just clearing around them and limbing them up will probably do a lot more than you think. Maybe a little extra watering if you want to really get crazy!
OP: Looks like water oak, which is definitely weird, but not unheard of. I wouldn't do anything to fertilize at first, unless it's really mild and organic. Something that's been there that long has probably adapted to natural conditions and could be shocked by too big of a change. Just clearing around them and limbing them up will probably do a lot more than you think. Maybe a little extra watering if you want to really get crazy!
pants said:
Oaks are notoriously hard to ID when they're very young. Look for other mature oaks nearby to ID
This is true but that looks like post oak or black jack oak. The Navasota bottom has a lot of post oak all the way to the water's edge from 30 to 6.
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