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I have a new home with an aerobic system and a little knowledge gleaned from Youtube. Give me your aerobic system advice please.

I am told that after a few weeks, the ph and bacteria get in a groove and the septic sprinklers will smell less septic?
mandevilleag
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Biggest piece of advice is absolutely no sink disposal and no grease down the drain. You might also be careful if the wife uses bleach in the wash or any type of bleach based or antibacterial toilet cleaner (not that you couldn't do a wash or clean toilets too, but this is Texags and men don't do those things).
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Does your county burden you with the required "maintenance contract" (which typically provides zero maintenance, just reports data to the bureaucrats)?

Hopefully your chlorine tablets can be user-supplied.

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schmellba99
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It's really not a big deal.

Limit grease, fats, etc. down the drain. I have a grease container I pour as much as I can when I use oils in cooking in before I wash pots and pans in the sink.

Use septic safe toilet paper (almost all of it is). No wipes of any kind, even if they claim they are septic safe (they aren't). No rags, femine products, etc. Basically don't be an idiot.

Once a month use Rid-X or a couple of teaspoons of baker's yeast - flush down the toilet. Helps keep the good bacteria in your aerator and digester alive and doing what it does.

Once a month check your chlorine in your finish water tank. Odds are it is a liquid chlorine eductor system, fill the chlorine tube up with bleach. Periodically check to make sure the suction line isn't clogged. Your maintenance contract should leave a report when they come letting you know what your residual is or if any extra things need to be done.

Once every 6 months or so clean the air filter on your air compressor to keep it running.

Once every 5 years or so pay the $250 and get your sludge tank vacuumed out, new bugs put in and any sludge in your finish tank vacuumed out.

Don't run over your spray heads. I ended up lowering mine so that they were flush with the ground when they weren't spraying - makes mowing easy. Just have to be a little more careful when I'm mowing the back acre to make sure one doesn't pop up on me while I"m on the mower. Hasn't happened yet.
Deats99
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If you have a mixer, toss it when goes out and replace it with a bubbler.
A good plan violently executed now is better than a perfect plan executed next week.
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n_dagley
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Make sure your washing machine is high efficiency. The regular washers use too much water for an aerobic system.
Kenneth_2003
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Never understood the need for RidX etc. Your daily ritual should be putting plenty of the needed bacteria in the system.

Like others said, no fat/grease and avoid using the disposal as much as possible. The only solids should be TP and your daily constitutional.
sunchaser
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Have never used one RidX in 30 years. If you have spray heads set the timer to go off when you are sleeping.
MouthBQ98
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We rid-x ours just to give it extra help. We have some wonky sewer line issues because the clay sands we are on move a lot when it is very wet or dry, so we bulk order RV paper that breaks down much easier.

The inspection regime is pretty lame, but the guy did come out once and help me find where I had knocked loose an air tube that set off the alarm while I was weed trimming.
Charlie Murphy
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There is a home improvement board
schmellba99
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Kenneth_2003 said:

Never understood the need for RidX etc. Your daily ritual should be putting plenty of the needed bacteria in the system.

Like others said, no fat/grease and avoid using the disposal as much as possible. The only solids should be TP and your daily constitutional.


Cheap insurance to help keep your bugs alive.

Dont use if if you dont want to. I do, and I probably have more experiwnce with WWT than anybody on this board, but thats just me.
Newoldarmy
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schmellba99 said:

Kenneth_2003 said:

Never understood the need for RidX etc. Your daily ritual should be putting plenty of the needed bacteria in the system.

Like others said, no fat/grease and avoid using the disposal as much as possible. The only solids should be TP and your daily constitutional.


Cheap insurance to help keep your bugs alive.

Dont use if if you dont want to. I do, and I probably have more experiwnce with WWT than anybody on this board, but thats just me.

Humble brag?
WheelinAg
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Lol, the poop master is here!
skelso
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Glad to see you chime in about this one, especially on Rid-X. This has been an ongoing debate around here because the house we just bought has an aerobic system.

My dad, licensed master plumber for over 50 years, has had an aerobic system at his house for about 12 years. He puts Rid-X in his once a month and recommended we do the same. However, one of the stipulations to us closing on this house was the sellers had to have a septic person come out and get everything working because the system had been off for a year while the house sat vacant. Dad was here with me when the septic man came out and they got into a pretty good dick swinging contest over who's been in the industry longer, knows more, etc. The septic guy who came out has been doing this about 10 years and holds a chemistry degree from TAMU. He told me that Rid-X is absolutely not necessary and is actually harmful for an aerobic system. And... that's when it all started... He tried to convince us, using a lot of scientific terms, why Rid-X is bad and that there is another product similar to Rid-X that is made specifically for aerobic systems.

After their blow up, I was still a bit confused about use or not use. But at the end of the day, my old man has rarely steered me wrong so I dumped a box in... Knowing your background, and seeing as you agree it's cheap insurance, I'll continue the practice.

What are your thoughts on tabs vs liquid injector?

Septic man is trying to get me to buy an injector. Dad told me if he was in my shoes he would keep using tabs...
reagan1k
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Study from Wash. state showed no benefit (or damage) to adding RidEx to AEROBIC systems.

A lot of people apply ideas learned from dealing with conventional systems to aerobic systems and they aren't necessarily the same in all aspects.

Unless you damage your existing colony with something like a chemical or anti bacterial waste being dumped, you don't need to assist Mother Nature.

One of the biggest claims by ridex is that it helps eliminate solids that would clog your drain field. Most aerobic systems are spray systems so there isn't a drainfield to clog. Another issue is that Ridex breaks down grease but breaking it down and making it pass through your pump and sprinklers puts it in your lawn.

Leaving grease floating in your trash tank in the scum layer is fine, considering that your trash tank should be pumped anyway.

We're i to inherit a conventional system that was failing due to a lack of maintenance I'd probably use ridex to help it in the event it couldn't be pumped expediently- but in a properly maintained and cared for aerobic system there's no tangible benefit that will be noticed. It won't damage it either so if you feel better with the placebo effect, flush away.
Kenneth_2003
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My folks have been on a tab system for just over 15 years now. 3x500gal tanks, finally needed the 1st and i think 2nd tank pumped a year or so ago. Other than that zero issues, and no major repairs in that time. Spray never smells.
Col. Steve Austin
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Kenneth_2003 said:

Never understood the need for RidX etc. Your daily ritual should be putting plenty of the needed bacteria in the system.

Like others said, no fat/grease and avoid using the disposal as much as possible. The only solids should be TP and your daily constitutional.
Yep, we've been in our house with aerobic system for almost 16 years. The only time we put an additive in is when we are leaving home for a week or more. Our original septic guy told us to put a cup or two of dog food the toilet to feed the good bugs while gone but the last several years we have used a packaged product and toss a pod in before we leave on our trip. We've had our tank pumped out twice.

The biggest issues we've had:

1) damaged controller due to lightning strikes, twice. 1st time the septic guy had an extra board that he put in at a discounted price. 2nd time, had him put in an old school electro-mechanical controller (at his recommendation). That's been going strong for 10 years plus.

2) failed air pump, twice for sure maybe 3 times (off the top of my head I am not sure). Just had one replaced last week to the tune of $600. When your system has been working fine and you suddenly start smelling "sewer water" when the sprinkler pump kicks in, check the air pump and line from it to the aerator (I've knocked it loose several times). Your system should go into alarm if pump is not running or the line is off.

Chlorine for the finish tank sanitizes the final output but doesn't have much if any bearing on the smell in my experience (after inadvertently letting the chlorine run out for a while).
Col. Steve Austin
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n_dagley said:

Make sure your washing machine is high efficiency. The regular washers use too much water for an aerobic system.
What is that based on? Our washing machine is not high efficiency. Water goes into the system and gets pumped out as the level in the finish tank comes up. Where is the problem? Almost 16 years at our current home with aerobic system and excess water has never been an issue.
n_dagley
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Doing a lot of washes in a row causes the 1st tank to overflow to the second tank before the gray water has a chance to settle thus sending more solids to your second tank. These solids will toast your lift pump quicker than it should. We have two young kids so tons of laundry. Might be different in your situation. There's lots of info online about it.
Edit to add: Also, I'm on well water so I prefer the HE washer's use of a fraction of water as our old one did.
Naveronski
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No idea what he's talking about, unless he's actually outputting so much water that it's overloading his system?

Most systems are designed around a "X gal per day" type volume.

Most of the advice here is pretty good. Rid-x isn't needed in most systems, but won't hurt anything either. It's more useful in conventional systems than aerobic.

I did inspections/service around BCS after A&M, but I'm glad to be out of that now.
n_dagley
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Yes sir that's what can happen. My system is a 600 GPD system. I should have said, depending on your system and family situation, you might want to consider a HE washer.
Cibalo
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I will just add that you should put in a transfer switch to keep your system running off of a generator if there is a power outage.
PorkEatingCrusader
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Glad this was posted Just moved to our new house with an aerobic system as well
fooz
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GSS said:

Does your county burden you with the required "maintenance contract" (which typically provides zero maintenance, just reports data to the bureaucrats)?

Hopefully your chlorine tablets can be user-supplied.


Mine reports only. They always say low on chlorine, even when it's full. I use the chlorine pucks.
schmellba99
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Newoldarmy said:

schmellba99 said:

Kenneth_2003 said:

Never understood the need for RidX etc. Your daily ritual should be putting plenty of the needed bacteria in the system.

Like others said, no fat/grease and avoid using the disposal as much as possible. The only solids should be TP and your daily constitutional.


Cheap insurance to help keep your bugs alive.

Dont use if if you dont want to. I do, and I probably have more experiwnce with WWT than anybody on this board, but thats just me.

Humble brag?
Only if you want to take it that way I guess.
schmellba99
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skelso said:

Glad to see you chime in about this one, especially on Rid-X. This has been an ongoing debate around here because the house we just bought has an aerobic system.

My dad, licensed master plumber for over 50 years, has had an aerobic system at his house for about 12 years. He puts Rid-X in his once a month and recommended we do the same. However, one of the stipulations to us closing on this house was the sellers had to have a septic person come out and get everything working because the system had been off for a year while the house sat vacant. Dad was here with me when the septic man came out and they got into a pretty good dick swinging contest over who's been in the industry longer, knows more, etc. The septic guy who came out has been doing this about 10 years and holds a chemistry degree from TAMU. He told me that Rid-X is absolutely not necessary and is actually harmful for an aerobic system. And... that's when it all started... He tried to convince us, using a lot of scientific terms, why Rid-X is bad and that there is another product similar to Rid-X that is made specifically for aerobic systems.

After their blow up, I was still a bit confused about use or not use. But at the end of the day, my old man has rarely steered me wrong so I dumped a box in... Knowing your background, and seeing as you agree it's cheap insurance, I'll continue the practice.

What are your thoughts on tabs vs liquid injector?

Septic man is trying to get me to buy an injector. Dad told me if he was in my shoes he would keep using tabs...
My system is liquid. I don't think either are better or worse. I've had to repair my eductor suction tube once, so I added a good filter to the end of it to keep debris out. Outside of that, no issues.
schmellba99
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n_dagley said:

Doing a lot of washes in a row causes the 1st tank to overflow to the second tank before the gray water has a chance to settle thus sending more solids to your second tank. These solids will toast your lift pump quicker than it should. We have two young kids so tons of laundry. Might be different in your situation. There's lots of info online about it.
Edit to add: Also, I'm on well water so I prefer the HE washer's use of a fraction of water as our old one did.
Have 2 girls plus the wife at home. Have never had an issue with too much water volume. If your system is sized properly, this shouldnt' be an issue.

Only time I've ever heard of problems is during flood events - in which case you need to shut your pumps off so they don't burn up trying to pump flood water.
expresswrittenconsent
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schmellba99 said:

It's really not a big deal.

Limit grease, fats, etc. down the drain. I have a grease container I pour as much as I can when I use oils in cooking in before I wash pots and pans in the sink.

Use septic safe toilet paper (almost all of it is). No wipes of any kind, even if they claim they are septic safe (they aren't). No rags, femine products, etc. Basically don't be an idiot.

Once a month use Rid-X or a couple of teaspoons of baker's yeast - flush down the toilet. Helps keep the good bacteria in your aerator and digester alive and doing what it does.

Once a month check your chlorine in your finish water tank. Odds are it is a liquid chlorine eductor system, fill the chlorine tube up with bleach. Periodically check to make sure the suction line isn't clogged. Your maintenance contract should leave a report when they come letting you know what your residual is or if any extra things need to be done.

Once every 6 months or so clean the air filter on your air compressor to keep it running.

Once every 5 years or so pay the $250 and get your sludge tank vacuumed out, new bugs put in and any sludge in your finish tank vacuumed out.

Don't run over your spray heads. I ended up lowering mine so that they were flush with the ground when they weren't spraying - makes mowing easy. Just have to be a little more careful when I'm mowing the back acre to make sure one doesn't pop up on me while I"m on the mower. Hasn't happened yet.

Yeah, see, not really a big deal at all. Best part is you get to be the person who has to tell your guests that they cant use the kitchen or the bathroom normally while visiting you, and then deal with the awkwardness when the guest forgets that they cannot use the kitchen or sink normally.
Col. Steve Austin
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schmellba99 said:

n_dagley said:

Doing a lot of washes in a row causes the 1st tank to overflow to the second tank before the gray water has a chance to settle thus sending more solids to your second tank. These solids will toast your lift pump quicker than it should. We have two young kids so tons of laundry. Might be different in your situation. There's lots of info online about it.
Edit to add: Also, I'm on well water so I prefer the HE washer's use of a fraction of water as our old one did.
Have 2 girls plus the wife at home. Have never had an issue with too much water volume. If your system is sized properly, this shouldnt' be an issue.

Only time I've ever heard of problems is during flood events - in which case you need to shut your pumps off so they don't burn up trying to pump flood water.
It's only 2 of us in our house most of the time, but the system that was put in was based on the size of the home (3200 sq ft) not the normal number of occupants. Our laundry gets done in "spurts" with a lot of loads done consecutively and we've never had a problem. In 16 years, the lift pump is about the only active element that hasn't failed.

Good point about the well water.
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