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Photography is a hobby of mine and Texags is one resource that I have used to get better at it. There are some real professionals on here that do this for a living and have tons of experience and knowledge. There are also some of us who just take a bunch and hope one turns out ok. I like to share my pictures that I've taken on here and I really like seeing other people's pictures that are outdoors related or involve a hunting trip of some kind. One thing I always see posted on these threads is a "what did you use to take that?" type question or a "I'm not a good photographer" type statement. My hope is that this thread can answer a few of those questions for people and maybe some of the really talented photographers on this site can share some knowledge or tips. I want to try and break it down into a couple of topics and anyone who has any input please jump in. Hopefully we can all reap the rewards of better picture taking abilities. I'm not a professional by any means but the following is what I have to offer.

1. The Equipment

I think the best camera is the one you have with you. I know a lot of people with really nice cameras that sit on shelves in closets and gather dust. If you're using your phone as a camera, that works. If you've got a super nice DSLR and a giant lens, that works as well. The point is to use whatever you have, you'll want those memories one day. I do think that for low light conditions your phone just can't quite compete with the bigger sensors on some of the quality cameras out there. I think if you start carrying a camera with you, you'll be glad you did.



The picture above is what I use most of the time. A Nikon d5300, which is a low/mid level DSLR and a Sony a5100. The Sony isn't exactly a point and shoot, it's classified as a mirrorless camera. It has the ability to interchange lenses just like the Nikon. I also use the go pro's for time lapse stuff and carry a Manfrotto tripod around. Each of the cameras has a quick connection to the tripod that works for me but would probably be frowned upon by photography purists. I like the ability to take the camera off the tripod quickly if necessary. The cameras that I use both put out RAW files and JPEG files. I prefer the raw setting because it allows you to edit the picture afterwards if necessary.

A few pro's and cons about each....

The Nikon d5300. It is a good camera for me. It takes quality pictures and isn't so expensive that I'm afraid to use it. It was my first DSLR purchase and is very user friendly. It isn't weather sealed which will eventually lead to it's demise in my hands because I'm rough on it but so far it hasn't blinked. It takes a 24 megapixel picture and does good work on videos.It has wifi, a flip up screen and plenty of other capabilities. I don't have any super expensive lenses, just some options that work for me. I haven't bought any more expensive lenses yet because I think I will probably transition to a different platform in the near future. ( reasons for that later) The Nikon is too big to fit in a pocket but usually rides around in a dust proof bag next to me on the side by side or around my neck and tucked in a jacket. There are plenty of comparable options but in the research I did, this camera was the best in my price range. It isn't a full frame sensor so it will suffer in low light compared to some of the full frame options. The battery life on this camera seems to be pretty good but I don't like that you have to remove the battery to charge it. I have a small remote that works great on this camera but it might be in my washing machine at the moment. Check your pockets. This camera has a quiet mode but is still audible when you take a picture.

The Sony a5100. I love this thing. This camera is small enough to fit in my jacket pocket and can be deployed at a moment's notice. Despite the small size, this camera has a big sensor and does a great job in low light compared to a cell phone. It also takes 24 megapixel pictures so that gives you plenty of photo to work with for cropping and editing. This camera has a flip up screen and an easy self timer which makes it perfect for taking pictures of a big fish or a big deer when you hunt by yourself. It has a wifi capability so you can send the pic straight from your camera to your phone and then scoreboard all your buddies. The battery life is great and I really like the fact that it takes a USB C charger so it is easy to charge while heading down the road. The ability to change lenses means that this camera can do just about everything the big guys can. This camera has made me such a big fan of Sony that my next purchase will be a Sony a7iii full frame camera.


A synopsis .... I think any of the Sony alpha series cameras (a5100, a6000, a6300) would be a perfect camera to keep in a tackle box, hunting pack or vehicle and would double as a family memory maker. They offer a superior auto mode that takes care of a lot of the work for you. I'm sure there are plenty of other options in this range but these are the only ones I have hands on experience with. People who really know what they are talking about have recommended the Sony rx100 series of cameras to me and I have no doubt that they are awesome as well. They are a little smaller so that might be a more desirable option to some.


I would love to hear other people's experiences with different platforms or camera types.




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2. Taking the pictures.






I offer the 2 pictures above as an example. The 2 pictures are the same subject (me) and the same speed goat. I may be crazy but one looks a lot better than the other. I think if I'm gonna go through all the trouble and expense of going on a hunt, I want it to be remembered as best as I can.

My tips for taking a flattering grip and grin,,,,

1. Clean up the trophy. No one wants to see a picture of a bloody mess with it's tongue hanging out. Carry a rag or some paper towels and make the animal look nice. Tuck the tongue in or cut it off if you must, but don't leave it hanging out. If you've got a big entry or exit wound, position the animal the other way, it'll just look better.

2. Choose your location wisely. I like to try and take a good picture of the animal that shows it's best characteristics and gives a representation of where he lived. I don't want my best picture of a good deer to be in the back of my pickup truck. Take a little time, find a good spot and make it worth your while. I try and have the antler or horns or whatever in front of a clear background. This makes for a cleaner picture and allows little details to really stand out. The crest of a hill, a cliff or a dirt road in a pasture usually work really well.

3. Position yourself wisely. I'm not saying to get 20 feet behind the animal and make some sort of forced perspective... but I am saying get behind it or at least even with it. Get out from behind the horns so you don't blend in with them.

4. Take a bunch of pictures. If you're going through all this trouble, make sure to take a bunch of pictures just in case you get a good one. Familiarize yourself with the self timer on your camera and have a small tripod if you hunt alone. If you hunt with a buddy, make them keep taking till you get the one you want. Try a few different angles and see what looks best. Smile in some, frown in some, take your hat off, put your hat on...You only get so many trophies in your lifetime, make sure you get a good picture of them.



5. Get other people in the picture with you if they were there or helped in any way. I have some pictures with my dad or good friends that will hang on the wall until I'm gone and someone else takes them down. Every single time I see those pictures i get good memories and think of where it happened and who was with me. That's the goal.





The other pictures....

If you hunt or fish with me you figure out pretty quick that you're probably gonna get photographed. Pictures with people in them just look better. The following are my best tips for getting good action shots.

1. Focus on the eyes. I don't care if you're taking a picture of a dog or a person, their eyes tell a story. Steven Drake is a professional expedition photographer and he says something like "emotion is most prevalent in people's faces." I think he's probably right. Happy or sad, the eyes give it away.



2. Tell a story. If you take a picture it should tell someone something about what you were doing. The picture below of the decoys... I was watching a lifeless spread on a windless, duckless morning and enjoying the sunrise. A bad hunt turned into a picture I liked, that's the way it goes sometimes.



3. Get the behind the scenes stuff. Everyone has a picture of a deer they shot, not everyone has a few pictures that tell the story of how they got it. Where'd you stay? What'd you eat ? Who was there? What hardships did you endure? Those are the pictures that will stick with you for a long time.









4. Just try it. It may seem stupid to walk up that hill and take a picture of your camp but try it ad see what it looks like. A little effort usually shows up in your pictures. Try something from several different angles and then see which one works best. Photo storage is cheap and battery life is better than ever. Zoom in, zoom out, less exposure, more exposure try it and learn. I don't know much about cameras but I'll try it until I figure out what works.






My last bit of wisdom is to utilize every resource available. There are plenty of people on this site that have forgotten more than I know and you tube is full of helpful people. Try it out and see what works for you!

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Great post and amazing photos! That Hereford bull and Aggie ring sunrise are my favorites. Thanks for sharing. You're positioning yourself to be the Agrams and Caladan of photography. That's a compliment.
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Best camera to take with you outdoors would depend greatly on your budget, but I would unquestionably go with a used pro-body, especially over Sony because they are so much more durable and much better sealed. Sony's are notoriously poorly sealed, which lets in dust, moisture, etc.

The other problem with Sony is availability. Really easy to find Nikon stuff and really easy to find used Nikon lenses at a great discount. Plus there are big service advantages.

Best values in photography for price to performance are the Nikon D4 for anything moving and the Nikon D800 for anything still (portraits, landscapes)

But the most important thing is having the camera with you.
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I'm glad to hear you weigh in on the subject because I definitely value your opinion.

I am leaning towards the a7iii mainly because of the silent shutter. I try to get as close as possible to animals and bow hunt a lot and that shutter sound is sometimes hard to work around. I feel like I can do things to mitigate the exposure risk but I can't do much about the sound. Thanks again!

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Thanks for sharing this amigo, the OB is better for it! Merry Christmas.
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Appreciate your insight. I recently stepped up and got an A6000 a few weeks ago. I've enjoyed taking photos with it so far.
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Speaking of eyes! What in the hell is this anyway?

Blue Duck
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Thanks for the kind words.

That bull was standing on the road outside of Las Vegas, New Mexico and reminded me of my favorite Robert Earl Keen song.

That Aggie ring picture was down by the Devils River in my favorite spot on one of my favorite ranches. You can't beat a good sunset down there.

Blue Duck
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Merry Christmas to you and yours, glad you enjoyed it.
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I almost pulled the trigger on an a6000 a couple of weeks ago but it isn't that much different than the a5100 so I held off. I think they are great cameras.
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Mr.Diesel has a used DSLR sitting under the tree right now. He constantly talks about shooting pics outdoors and a photog friend was selling a used canon. It worked out great for him and I'll be sure to post pics. I'll be happy when he figures it out and can take great pics of our boys and pups.
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Blue Duck said:

I'm glad to hear you weigh in on the subject because I definitely value your opinion.

I am leaning towards the a7iii mainly because of the silent shutter. I try to get as close as possible to animals and bow hunt a lot and that shutter sound is sometimes hard to work around. I feel like I can do things to mitigate the exposure risk but I can't do much about the sound. Thanks again!


Yeah, the D4 and D800 shutters are much louder.

But you have a TON more options on long lenses and can find good used long lenses pretty easily with Nikon.

The 200-500 f5.6 lens is pretty fantastic at a great price. For wildlife I would absolutely use it.


Article I wrote on how to shoot sports in the rain. Would work for wildlife/hunting as well.

https://fstoppers.com/education/how-prepare-shoot-sports-rain-288085
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D7100. Occasionally I take a a6100 when I want to hike light. I use a capture camera to keep the camera accessible when hiking.
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If he needs another gift check out the book "Understanding Exposure." It breaks down a lot of the elements of the camera and how they function together. I found it really helpful when starting out.
Blue Duck
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I read your article and enjoyed it. It does seem like that the worse the elements are, the better the pictures turn out!
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Blue Duck said:

I read your article and enjoyed it. It does seem like that the worse the elements are, the better the pictures turn out!
guitarsoup nailed it. Some of my favorite shots of my sons sports were in the driving rain. The kids loved playing in it and the water added an extra element.
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What's your recommendation on a smallish, lightish, all-in-oneish for backpacking/deep woods? I'm not hauling the DSLR and lenses out with me.
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Ol Jock 99 said:

What's your recommendation on a smallish, lightish, all-in-oneish for backpacking/deep woods? I'm not hauling the DSLR and lenses out with me.

Nikon P1000 came out this year if you want the camera that zooms the most. Save some money and get the Nikon P900. My mom got the P900 before she went on a safari last year.

Did a pretty solid job. You will probably want something for stabilization and possibly a remote shutter release to cut on vibrations. These things zoom in stupidly far.



If you are looking for more compact, light weight and able to get lower-light pics but sacrificing zoom range (which is always the trade off in point and shoots) look at the Canon G-series. The G7 X Mark II is a good performer and probably the way to go. The G1X Mark III has a bigger sensor, so even better with low light, but also twice the cost.
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That is a double crested cormorant.
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What's your recommendation on a smallish, lightish, all-in-oneish for backpacking/deep woods?

I would recommend comparing that Nikon GS listed to the latest Panasonic GX series camera that you can find/afford. You can put a 14, 20, or 25 (2x crop compared to DSLR) lens on there, or a zoom, without really noticing it. Don't be shy about buying used. The Nikon may be a little more rugged (not familiar with that one but Nikons have always held the edge in rugged cameras) but the Panny is one heck of a camera for all sorts of uses. Great glass and great video applications.
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Very good.
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I got a Rebel T6i this summer and have been occasionally playing with it. This was first used of a 55-200mm EFS lens.



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Key to good pictures is good subject matter. Either needs to be unique or tell a story. Here are some I took in Africa with a Nikon D7000 w/ a 70-300dx lens.




This was a new born Giraffe who sees it first guinea hen
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If you mainly want to do video with some stills as a bonus, go with the Panasonic GH5 or GH5s. I'll probably get one or two this year, just to have for dedicated video stuff.


As said before, if you are getting into photography, read the book Understanding Exposure. You need to use it as a text book, because if you are just throwing the camera in an automatic mode, you might as well just use your cell phone.
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3. Get the behind the scenes stuff. Everyone has a picture of a deer they shot, not everyone has a few pictures that tell the story of how they got it. Where'd you stay? What'd you eat ? Who was there?

Here's my corollaries to that. Don't take the shots everyone takes. I do that some, you can't go to Yellowstone, for instance, and not take Old Faithful. But get your family in the shot, or get some side photos off the beaten path.

When I look at some old photos, I get frustrated when grandad is pictured in front of an old car or tractor...and you can't tell what kind it is. Car and antique tractor guys like me love to see the equipment, as well as the people. And if you farm, you know the equipment is a huge part of your life and the story you want to tell your grandkids. Also, it helps date the photos. So widen the shot a little, get the grill of the pickup in the shot.

Do the same for places. Photos of you or your friends and family at A&M are great. But A&M changes. How great will it be to have photos of your old dorm...when its no longer there. Or if your ancestor was A&M class of 1919, wouldn't you have loved to have photos of the dorms, uniforms, academic buildings, etc.?


I've been doing this since the early 70s, I'll never be as good as some of you. But I've got a few good shots, I've shared them on here. Currently using Canon T5i.

I think the best advice so far is to simply have the camera with you as much as possible. Great shots outdoors are ephemeral. You have to be ready to get them. iPhones are adequate, but a real camera with a zoom lens is so much better.


EDIT to add one of my better ones. Intentionally set the ISO low, ended up with a 1.3 second exposure.


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Great post! Your pics are really fantastic Blue Duck! I'm anxious to see your turkey pics come spring!
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Playing with my camera but it's time for a new body I fear..












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A body is just a box. As long as it still works, money is usually better spent on better lenses.
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Mr. Dubi said:

A body is just a box. As long as it still works, money is usually better spent on better lenses.


Chips don't help?
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Deats said:

Mr. Dubi said:

A body is just a box. As long as it still works, money is usually better spent on better lenses.


Chips don't help?


Depends on the upgrade but most body upgrades are incremental and for things other than the sensor.

Going from crop to full frame can be a big upgrade but going from a 2013 camera to a 2018 camera will be very incremental as far as the sensor goes
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I shoot a D7000 and a couple different Nikon lenses. Still not guitarsoup status but I learn every time I shoot.
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Another bit of advice for someone starting out is to learn to use the camera off auto mode.
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Blue Duck
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I'm ready to get out and chase the ol' thunder chickens!
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