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Elk in Texas

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Apache
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Elk were once native all over at least the Western half of Texas. Currently they are free ranging in from New Mexico. They are considered "exotics" by TP&W: "any animal that is not indigenous to Texas".

Can anyone shed some light on this? Why doesn't TP&W reclassify elk & get the ball rolling on an actual season & maybe restocking some? Is the exotic animal "lobby" really that influential?
ursusguy
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The elk we have now were brought in years ago.

Now due to CWD issues, I would not support intentionally bringing in elk from out of state.

And yes, the livestock lobby does not want them under the purview of tpwd.
NW80
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Tale of West Texas Elk as told to me by a man born and raised in Alpine a a former student.
Elk were first reintroduced in the Davis Mountains by the Long X ranch in the 1940s. The did "ok." Then in or about 1983 TPWD traded Rio Grande Turkeys with Utah for Elk. The Elk were transplanted to the Davis Mountains ( an original habitat in antiquity). The Elk flourished and were planned to be a "game animal" until TPWD "told" the ranchers that they'd have to allow permit holders to hunt on their ranches.
The ranchers balked (as to be expected given their nature) essentially telling TPWD to go Butt a stump. Subsequently a "rider" showed up on a Bill (allegedly not wildlife related) designating Elk as Exotics. Hence, even if I'd wanted to, I couldn't register my 400" Bull I shot out there in the B&C record book ( he'd of made it both ways).
The interesting thing is Elk were just as much a part of native Texas wild game as the Desert Bighorns. But, TPWD ignores that. Hence there is no closed season and no bag limit. They're primarily managed by ranchers ( arguably better than Austin would/could) who've enjoyed a nice windfall from the herd.
One other bull**** move by a San Antonio ( non-resident landowner) was introducing them to the Sierra Diablos. Never any Elk in that range historically, only Mule Deer and Bighorns. The Elk interfere significantly with the Bighorns ( a MUCH bigger payday for the rancher that gets a tag). Most ranchers through Texas Bighorn Assn and privately have put in "guzzlers" for the sheep. You can only imagine what a moderate sized Elk herd would do to your rainwater guzzler (cistern). Needless to say, neither the Elk or the ranch owner are very well liked in the Diablos!
SunrayAg
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A friend got a very nice one in Hartley County SW of Dalhart last year.
Apache
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None coming in from New Mexico at all?
ttha_aggie_09
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Can you post a pic of your mount again, so I can remember how much I hate you?
NW80
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Apache said:

None coming in from New Mexico at all?


Don't need or want them.
I PMed you, check out the message.
FSGuide
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Very well put for someone who has been drinking wine coolers for 19 hours straight!
Apache
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I saw that, I'll have to touch base you tomorrow. Just curious if elk were coming in from NM. S
drred4
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Coming in from the Canadian river basin and dispersing in Canyons
ursusguy
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Not considered to be particularly prevalent much beyond the Guadalupes, and a couple other small ranges.
NW80
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I'm working!
NW80
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I don't know how.....
ttha_aggie_09
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You lie!
ttha_aggie_09
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NW80 said:

I don't know how.....



FishingAggie
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Wow. Awesome animal.

I like that whitetail too.
phorizt
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http://circleranchtx.com/are-elk-native-to-texas-yes/
BurrOak
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I'd love to see a side view of that bull.

If you can figure out how to post it.
ttha_aggie_09
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Didn't send me a side profile... that bull is a monster!
NW80
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You couldn't get your fingers around the main beam until you got past the "saber" point/ "whale tail."
The fronts were 23" long.
And, he was VERY old! The chin bone ( mentum) had a fracture through the midline and was free floating.
Build It
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Have the elk out by easterwood airport been mounted or captured yet? Or are they still roaming around Brazos valley?
MAROON
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I had to lock up my brakes one morning as I drove on hwy 385 from Marathon to Fort Stockton. A nice 6x6 was standing broad side in the middle of the highway.
dave99ag
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This bull came through our place south of Alpine last fall. They should start showing up pretty soon and I'll be checking my cams as I head down there next weekend.


JD05AG
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Just north of Marathon
NW80
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Nice little Bull.
NW80
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There's a nice healthy herd in the Glass Mountains.
JD05AG
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Yessir, that was on my wife's cousin's ranch. Biggest herd we saw driving the ranch that day was about 25.
NW80
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I would expect the herd in West Texas to flourish and continue to produce monster bulls as long as TPWD doesn't get envolved and some ranchers or outfitters don't get too greedy!!!
As long as hunters are limited and little bulls like the one above aren't killed, there should be a healthy trophy population that's sustainable in West Texas for a long time.
BurrOak
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I always look for elk when I'm driving out in the Trans Pecos area. Have yet to ever see any though.
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