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Opinions on these 3 gun safes?

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MrJonMan
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Looked at this one over the weekend, got the guy down to $725 from $800, no tax if I pay cash, but ultimately didn't pull the trigger.

https://www.stack-on.com/product/total-defense-40-gun-safe/

They now have this one now as well. Didn't haggle at all yet, but was told $700.

https://www.stack-on.com/product/elite-69-gun-safe/

Obviously one is much bigger, and I know everyone says go big, just wasn't sure if I would be sacrificing quality for for size.

There was a 3rd one but I'd never heard of it before, but that's not saying much

https://www.walmart.com/ip/Mesa-Safe-36-Gun-Safe-MGL36C-30-Min-Fire-Security-Mechanical-Lock/43351205

Stasco
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Stack-on gets crapped on quite a bit for the lock quality on some of their safes, but I am not sure the quality of these safes specifically. Personally, I wouldn't trust the company at all.

That said, it's tough to find anyone really endorse the quality and safety of any large gun safe under $1,500 or so.
MrJonMan
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Interesting to know. I've previously been looking st the $600-$800 Cannon Safes and figured they were equals or that these might be slightly better since they are heavier.
P.H. Dexippus
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I learned a lot here:

https://gunsafereviewsguy.com/buyers-guide/
https://gunsafereviewsguy.com/articles/what-to-look-for-in-a-gun-safe/
MrJonMan
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Thanks
putu
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also depends on what your end goal is. Is it to protect your investments or to just keep them out of kids reach, etc.
MrJonMan
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putu said:

also depends on what your end goal is. Is it to protect your investments or to just keep them out of kids reach, etc.


Main thing is to have the guns behind lock and key. Only currently have 5. Would also put some jewelry and important docs in it.

I figure it needs to be strong enough that a random robber can't easily gain access but if someone shows up with the intention of breaking into a safe, then I don't expect it to withstand that. Figure I've got bigger issues at that point.

And also want it heavy enough it can't just be walked out the door
MrJonMan
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I liked the smaller stack on because of the waterproof feature and that it has a plug inside. Good fire rating too.

Of course I like the size of the bigger one.

Eventually I would like to get a very nice Liberty or something similar in the $3500-$5k range, but that's not in the budget at the moment. So, simply looking for good enough or decent for the time being.
Old Sarge
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I originally went with a smaller "budget safe" the first time for the kiddo factor, and a slight deterrent to a smash and grab kinda thief. About 5 years later, I bought a large (not the biggest at the time, but large) Liberty Lincoln. I moved the smaller budget safe to a small closet and now use it for storing ammunition. Put a lock on the closet door, and that is my "gun/hunting" closet. The wife unit no longer gives me crap about having my hunting stuff (except for clothes) spread out in the house in other closets, cabinets, etc., and she stays out of it.

I will say this, no matter the safe, bolt it down. The easiest access to break a safe is the bottom. The holes are already there (to bolt it down), and a battery operated recip saw and a short, quality blade can open them up pretty quick. Knock it over, cut away, and pull the guns right out the bottom.

The budget safe only had a combo option. The Liberty had a choice of combo or electronic lock and all the dealer had was electronic for my model, but I custom ordered mine with a brass innards combo. I am in mine about once a day, sometimes more. Once you do it daily for a while, it is a snap to get in quickly. The locksmith that installed mine told me he installed about 200 safes a year, and only a handful ever wanted a combo lock. He asked why I ORDERED mine that way. EMP or other electronic failure and I still get in no matter what with no delays after mistakes in input was my response, and that I keep what I'd need for immediate defense stashed close but undetectable anyway. He smiled and said he used electronic himself only because of his poor vision. He said I could work the lock 10's of thousands of times with brass innards and still hand off the safe to my kids, and them to theirs, as long as the combo was not abused, and the chance of failure would be slim to none.

Something else to consider. Once you get a "larger, nicer" safe, width is key. Many folks say get larger than you think you'll need, and there is some validity to that, depending on several factors. Beginning a gun collection, or only plan to add one every once in a while, kids moving on and taking theirs with them, etc. If you stack correctly, alternating rifles/shotguns, bolt orientations, and the vertical alignment of the bolt action guns, you might find you can get more guns than you think possible into your safe, as was the case for me. The width comes in handy because of this, and the ability to store a few more down the backside/outside of the guns in the traditional arrangement.

"Green" is the new RED.
MrJonMan
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Failed to mention that part of what I liked about the smaller Stack On was that is had a combo lock rather than electronic.

I'm hesitating to bolt it down bc the room it will be in has hardwoods in it. Actually our whole house is either hardwood or tile, not sure on making holes in the wood.

Appreciate the input
The Anchor
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Academy is having a sale on this safe:

https://www.academy.com/shop/pdp/cannon-safe-valley-forge-series-42-gun-safe-112053844p#repChildCatid=4208421
OaklandAg06
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I was looking at this safe system for about the same number of guns- I like that it is modular and designed for the guns to be accessed directly instead of having to pull a gun over another. More interested in getting the guns behind a lock and combo/key than needing a big heavy duty safe.

https://www.secureitgunstorage.com/product/gun-cabinet-ultralight-gun-safe/

Still haven't decided on this or an under bed safe. Wife doesn't think a gun locker/safe is an elegant decoration. Looking at a monster vault (http://www.monstervault.org/) for under the bed, just not sure I can fit my 5 guns in it comfortably.

Anyone have a better option for under the bed?
putu
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I'm in the same boat as OP. I have small, but growing collection.

My main goal right now is to keep it out of kids reach. Wife doesnt want it in house unless it fits in a closet out of sight.

I struggle with buying a $500 safe, but have to spend $200-250 for it to be "delivered" (some only drop at curb).

I do have another question. How many people have moved with their safe? Do moving companies move them? If so, is there a surcharge? Just something else I"m trying to factor in on which model to get.

thanks OB!
Horse with No Name
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I bought the Total Defense model you have listed here. Fire rating and water rating were a good value for the money. Something else I like is that when I called Stackon I was able to speak with a knowledgeable csr who was a native English speaker.

Just so you know, I don't think your stackon is water proof if you don't bolt it down as the bolts seal the the bottom of the safe.

Edit. I did move my safe with help from two friends. Had the store load it on a small trailer I have and backed it as close to the basement door as I could. Then used cardboard to slide across 100 or so feet of hard floors. I think safe was listed as 580lbs.
Ridin' 'cross the desert. . .
MrJonMan
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Glad to hear from someone with the safe.
Build It
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I like an old school combo as well. Should last forever.
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