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Taken from Texas Game Wardens FB page:

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Denton County Man Admits to Poaching Record Whitetail Buck
AUSTIN The second largest whitetail buck ever in Texas could be headed to the record books with an asterisk: poached. Earlier this week, a Denton County man pleaded no contest to illegally taking the trophy deer, which scored 278 points under the Boone & Crockett scoring system, last October near Pilot Point, Texas.
Travis D. Johnson of Aubrey, Texas, was sentenced in Denton County Criminal Court on Monday, Jan. 22, to two years of probation and 40 hours community service, plus court costs. He also faces in excess of $53,000 in civil restitution fines from the Texas Parks and Wildlife Department, and is prohibited from purchasing a hunting license for the duration of his deferred adjudication period.
"What an ill-fated legacy for what could have been, and should have been, a remarkable testament to Texas whitetail deer," said Col. Grahame Jones, TPWD Law Enforcement Director. "It's tragic that in the pursuit of this magnificent specimen, Mr. Johnson chose to violate hunting's code of ethics and the game laws designed to protect our state's precious wildlife resources. It's something he'll have to live with."
Almost immediately after news of the huge buck broke on Sunday, Oct. 8, 2017, Texas game wardens became aware of rumors alleging Johnson may have harvested the buck after legal hunting hours the night before. Based on a photo being circulated online that showed Johnson posing with the field dressed deer during daylight hours, along with comments that he had taken it with a bow the previous evening, wardens had concerns about the care and disposition of the venison considering the warm temperatures. Hunters are required to keep the meat of harvested game in edible condition.
Denton County game warden Stormy McCuistion met with Johnson at his residence the afternoon of Oct. 8 to inspect the carcass, and was informed it had been discarded at a different location due to concerns about the meat possibly being infected. Johnson claimed to have wounded the buck on Sept. 30, but was unable to retrieve it. When he saw the deer on images captured by his game trail camera a few days later, it exhibited entry and exit wounds. Since then, Johnson explained he began pursuing the animal in earnest in hopes of putting an end to its suffering, going so far as to spend the night in his hunting stand to avoid spooking deer. He said he got his opportunity at about 7:30 p.m. on Saturday, Oct. 7, 2017 and dispatched the buck with his bow.
After inspecting the deer carcass, game wardens then went to the area where Johnson claimed to have killed the big deer to confirm the details of his story. During a conversation with the landowner adjacent to the property where Johnson hunted, game wardens became suspicious about the timeline. The landowner recalled texting Johnson at about an hour past dark on Oct. 7 asking if he was okay since he noticed he had not returned to his vehicle. Johnson replied that he was safe, but made no mention of having successfully taken the big buck an hour earlier.

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FrontPorchAg
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I wonder if he still has that smile.
All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others
Texas 1836
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Any more details besides "after hours"?
DVM97
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So theoretically he could have arrowed the buck the night before, found it the following morning. Field dressed it, taken pictures, skinned it and found the meat to be spoiled, discarded the carcass and all of those occurrences would be legal? I'm still trying to figure out how they "know" what time he arrowed it? Unless he told them the time and it was past "legal" shooting hours per the sunset time. I know I don't usually look at my watch when deer hunting to know when legal shooting begins? Duck hunting I do.

DVM
powerbelly
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DVM97 said:

So theoretically he could have arrowed the buck the night before, found it the following morning. Field dressed it, taken pictures, skinned it and found the meat to be spoiled, discarded the carcass and all of those occurrences would be legal? I'm still trying to figure out how they "know" what time he arrowed it? Unless he told them the time and it was past "legal" shooting hours per the sunset time. I know I don't usually look at my watch when deer hunting to know when legal shooting begins? Duck hunting I do.

DVM
The write-up didn't really answer any of the question I have.
Brush Country
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Def NOT the full story.
BurrOak
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If you have the book of faces:

https://www.facebook.com/lonestaroutdoorshow/posts/1938743659487987

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The poached Travis Johnson Denton County buck from early October. Scored 278 inches by Boone and Crockett scorer Ken Witt. Would have been a state record. The buck was shot at night and the treestand/feeder was 70 yds onto the neighboring property which he didn't have permission to hunt.
I caught alot of hell for reporting this story at the time. Sometimes however, you have to report what you know is true even if it hurts or is tough to say. I know Travis personally and he is a good human being, but big bucks make good men do unethical and often illegal things. They call it the UGLY TRUTH for a reason.
You can hear the full story and case TPWD built against Travis from Denton County Game Warden Stormy McCuistion on an upcoming episode. We spoke today and Travis entered a plea deal for a class A misdemeanor. Civil Restitution will be around $53,000

Comments say he straight up admitted to everything.
BurrOak
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Brush Country said:

Def NOT the full story.
Title misleading. Ban OP.
Texmid
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edited
OldCamp
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Quote:

Did we break the law by dispatching the Elk once we found it?
Yes



But I would have done the same



Except I wouldnt post about it on TexAgs
Brush Country
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We can prob let it slide.
AggieGunslinger
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Watch the TX game warden show on NatGeo everyone comes clean every time. It is shocking how little the GWs have to push to get people to admit to something that the GW literally has no proof of beyond someone calling in and saying they heard something. I mean it is great for the GW but it just shocks me.
1989
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GWs don't show up questioning without more info than you know. Just like they don't show up at random and without having watched and observed you or a group of hunters in advance. Be honest and upfront and things tend to work out better. Tell a verifiable fib and you are likely going to suffer max consequences. That's why most people are straight up at the beginning. Just my opinion and worth what you paid for it.
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Texmid said:

I'm very interested in how this played out. While Elk hunting in New Mexico my cousin took a legal shot at an Elk on the last day of the season. The Elk was wounded and ran off. We followed the blood trail as long as we could with flashlights and called it a night. The next morning we went back, picked up where we left off and eventually located the Elk. It was mortally wounded and the shot occurred on the last day of the season during legal shooting hours. The Elk was still very much alive but there is no way it would have survived another night. Did we break the law by dispatching the Elk once we found it?


First of all, a "mortally wounded" elk won't be "very much alive" the next day. You'd be amazed what animals can live through. And if he made it through the night and was just fine the next day, you definitely don't know if he would die. I'd put money he'd survive a heck of a lot longer than you'd think.

And yes, you broke the law. It's not wise to post a hypothetical on TexAgs when you're clearly in the wrong.
Pignorant
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So this dude took a deer with a bow while spotlighting it?
OnlyForNow
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I've always used the "if you can see it shoot it" for deer hunting. That goes without saying that it has to be unaided by artificial light(s).

But if it's light enough to see through my scope and get a good shot on a deer, I'm taking it. Pretty sure the Texas regs Don't say sunrise to sunset for deer.
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OnlyForNow said:

I've always used the "if you can see it shoot it" for deer hunting. That goes without saying that it has to be unaided by artificial light(s).

But if it's light enough to see through my scope and get a good shot on a deer, I'm taking it. Pretty sure the Texas regs Don't say sunrise to sunset for deer.

Texas does specify...

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Legal Shooting Hours for All Game Animals and Nonmigratory Game Birds

The period from one-half hour before sunrise to one-half hour after sunset.

https://tpwd.texas.gov/regulations/outdoor-annual/hunting/general-regulations/overview
redass1876
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Pignorant said:

So this dude took a deer with a bow while spotlighting it?



Could have been a clear full moon night. Can see everything
OnlyForNow
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Ah! There we go. Ok. I am wrong.

So ya, I imagine early oct you could see pretty well after true sunset for about an hour.
redass1876
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giddings_ag_06 said:

Texmid said:

I'm very interested in how this played out. While Elk hunting in New Mexico my cousin took a legal shot at an Elk on the last day of the season. The Elk was wounded and ran off. We followed the blood trail as long as we could with flashlights and called it a night. The next morning we went back, picked up where we left off and eventually located the Elk. It was mortally wounded and the shot occurred on the last day of the season during legal shooting hours. The Elk was still very much alive but there is no way it would have survived another night. Did we break the law by dispatching the Elk once we found it?


First of all, a "mortally wounded" elk won't be "very much alive" the next day. You'd be amazed what animals can live through. And if he made it through the night and was just fine the next day, you definitely don't know if he would die. I'd put money he'd survive a heck of a lot longer than you'd think.

And yes, you broke the law. It's not wise to post a hypothetical on TexAgs when you're clearly in the wrong.


Had a yearling in the 2016 season with a hole in its leg about 2" around just above the foot. Couldn't put any weight on it. Ended up letting him go a few times. This year we shot a spike that turned out to be the same deer. Hole was still there but sealed up on the edges. Bone was exposed almost all the way up to the knee along a gash but that was sealed up too. Never had a clue he was injured until we got to the body

Quite resilient animals
rwv2055
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Ok, this got me thinking.

I run a hunting ranch in Polk county and I had a customer wound a fallow buck with a bow. About 10 days later, I found it holed up next to a creek bank covered in flies but unable to stand up. I shot him with my pistol, then called the customer to see if he wanted me to ship him the cape and skull. He declined and just wanted me to hang the head in a tree and he would pick it up when he comes next year. The deer stunk like it had been dead for days so I just hauled the meat off.

Now, since it was an exotic, TPWD couldn't care less, but what if it had been a whitetail? What if it had been archery season when he first shot it but gun season when I finished it off? Do I get him to mail me his tag, or is it legally "my" deer?

Brush Country
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Pretty sure it's your animal at that point. You killed it.
Agnzona
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What if you hit a deer with your vehicle and its not dead but just laying their all mangled are you allowed to euthanize it?
texrover91
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That's when you call the GW, even more so if you are running a commercial hunting operation

OnlyForNow
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I figure they would relinquish a tag to you at that point in the case you find the deer it can be properly tagged.
AggieChemist
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I am acquainted with a fellow who arrowed what would have been the WV archery record whitetail. The problem? He had already killed a buck in this one buck county where he was hunting. He telechecked it in KY and then drove it to Ohio to a processor/taxidermist. Somebody who knew the real story tattled on him and the natural resources popo nailed his hide to the wall. Because he crossed state lines, he committed a Lacey Act violation, as well.

Now this was seven or eight years ago and the guy has recently come out from under his rock and gotten active in the pseudo-political facebook/dnr/game scene... he's pushing for wanton waste laws, and other things. I guess he's trying to clear his name.

A lot of the fresh faced 20- and 30-somethings don't know about his past, but the old farts do.

... and every time he puts his name to something, I see that buck that's in the DNR wall of shame taxidermy display.
fishag04
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I saw this on another page.......

As the mother of Travis D. Johnson, I tell each and everyone of you, I am proud of my son and will stand behind him 100%. He made one (1) mistake, admitted his wrong, and will carry this with him the rest of his life. He was threatened with multiple felonies, none of which in my opinion were legitimate charges. But we all know just how JUST our criminal justice system really is. I served as a law enforcement officer for over 25years and my boys were raised right.

In high school, when other parents knew their kids were out with either of my boys, they didn't worry. Why? Because they knew neither of my boys drank, smoked, or did drugs, and if they got in trouble, I and their dad would be harder on them than the law could ever be. Ask around Aubrey & Pilot Point. Ask about Travis & Matthew Johnson. Matthew was killed in 2003 from an electrical "accident" while working for CoServ. The man responsible was fired, and CoServ was fined $2,000 by OSHA. Yep! My sons life was worth a whole $2,000. Nobody was prosecuted for that! Yet I forgave him. And this deer, this HUGE deer, which was shot once legally with a bow & arrow, then a week later was shot again with a bow & arrow, whose insides were rotting and unedible, was finally put out of its misery. This deers life is worth $51,000 and a good mans reputation. I do NOT condone the shooting of the deer after dark, illegally. Travis knows this and has ask forgiveness of all including God's. So perhaps before you sit in judgement of my son, examine your own house. Put yourself in his shoes. What length would YOU have gone to put this deer out of his misery? What length would YOU have gone to track and kill an already dying trophy deer? Ask yourself these questions and answer truthfully. It's always easy to point a finger and condemn another, until you find yourself in their shoes.

I can say without doubt, that Travis has never done anything like this before and never will again. Can you say the same about you or your children?
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Knowing the fines, I wouldn't even have taken the shot. BUT...if I wasn't really paying much attention to the time, and I did take the shot, I wouldn't have said **** to anyone. I know people say that if the GW is questioning you, he knows more than he is letting on, but in my talking to game wardens, that's a risk and bluff I'm more than willing to take. Nothing to lose at that point in my opinion. I'm also the person that gets super pissed when a fat game warden hauls ass across a field stressing out a four wheeler's suspension in order to waste 30 minutes of my time trying to figure out if I have a license and dick around with my shotgun to find out if it has a plug. F--- you. Sit and wait until I'm done hunting and you can check.
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fishag04 said:

I saw this on another page.......

As the mother of Travis D. Johnson, I tell each and everyone of you, I am proud of my son and will stand behind him 100%. He made one (1) mistake, admitted his wrong, and will carry this with him the rest of his life. He was threatened with multiple felonies, none of which in my opinion were legitimate charges. But we all know just how JUST our criminal justice system really is. I served as a law enforcement officer for over 25years and my boys were raised right.

In high school, when other parents knew their kids were out with either of my boys, they didn't worry. Why? Because they knew neither of my boys drank, smoked, or did drugs, and if they got in trouble, I and their dad would be harder on them than the law could ever be. Ask around Aubrey & Pilot Point. Ask about Travis & Matthew Johnson. Matthew was killed in 2003 from an electrical "accident" while working for CoServ. The man responsible was fired, and CoServ was fined $2,000 by OSHA. Yep! My sons life was worth a whole $2,000. Nobody was prosecuted for that! Yet I forgave him. And this deer, this HUGE deer, which was shot once legally with a bow & arrow, then a week later was shot again with a bow & arrow, whose insides were rotting and unedible, was finally put out of its misery. This deers life is worth $51,000 and a good mans reputation. I do NOT condone the shooting of the deer after dark, illegally. Travis knows this and has ask forgiveness of all including God's. So perhaps before you sit in judgement of my son, examine your own house. Put yourself in his shoes. What length would YOU have gone to put this deer out of his misery? What length would YOU have gone to track and kill an already dying trophy deer? Ask yourself these questions and answer truthfully. It's always easy to point a finger and condemn another, until you find yourself in their shoes.

I can say without doubt, that Travis has never done anything like this before and never will again. Can you say the same about you or your children?
He knew the law.

What you will do when nobody is looking says everything about you. Mom's empassioned pleas don't move my needle on this an inch.
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fishag04 said:

I saw this on another page.......

As the mother of Travis D. Johnson, I tell each and everyone of you, I am proud of my son and will stand behind him 100%. He made one (1) mistake, admitted his wrong, and will carry this with him the rest of his life. He was threatened with multiple felonies, none of which in my opinion were legitimate charges. But we all know just how JUST our criminal justice system really is. I served as a law enforcement officer for over 25years and my boys were raised right.

In high school, when other parents knew their kids were out with either of my boys, they didn't worry. Why? Because they knew neither of my boys drank, smoked, or did drugs, and if they got in trouble, I and their dad would be harder on them than the law could ever be. Ask around Aubrey & Pilot Point. Ask about Travis & Matthew Johnson. Matthew was killed in 2003 from an electrical "accident" while working for CoServ. The man responsible was fired, and CoServ was fined $2,000 by OSHA. Yep! My sons life was worth a whole $2,000. Nobody was prosecuted for that! Yet I forgave him. And this deer, this HUGE deer, which was shot once legally with a bow & arrow, then a week later was shot again with a bow & arrow, whose insides were rotting and unedible, was finally put out of its misery. This deers life is worth $51,000 and a good mans reputation. I do NOT condone the shooting of the deer after dark, illegally. Travis knows this and has ask forgiveness of all including God's. So perhaps before you sit in judgement of my son, examine your own house. Put yourself in his shoes. What length would YOU have gone to put this deer out of his misery? What length would YOU have gone to track and kill an already dying trophy deer? Ask yourself these questions and answer truthfully. It's always easy to point a finger and condemn another, until you find yourself in their shoes.

I can say without doubt, that Travis has never done anything like this before and never will again. Can you say the same about you or your children?
With a mom making excuses like that I can see how the guy thought laws didn't apply to him.
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BrazosDog02 said:

Knowing the fines, I wouldn't even have taken the shot. BUT...if I wasn't really paying much attention to the time, and I did take the shot, I wouldn't have said **** to anyone. I know people say that if the GW is questioning you, he knows more than he is letting on, but in my talking to game wardens, that's a risk and bluff I'm more than willing to take. Nothing to lose at that point in my opinion. I'm also the person that gets super pissed when a fat game warden hauls ass across a field stressing out a four wheeler's suspension in order to waste 30 minutes of my time trying to figure out if I have a license and dick around with my shotgun to find out if it has a plug. F--- you. Sit and wait until I'm done hunting and you can check.
This was my thought thought the whole time through reading the story and comments. I wouldn't have taken the shot knowing it was illegal ( i have painfully watched several monster bucks walk down the wrong side of a fence in my years of hunting) but if i did accidentally take an illegal shot, come up with a much better cover story (more believable and harder to verify), and then shut up about it. But as we have seen before many times, the 3rd "S" is always the hardest to follow...
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Agnzona said:

What if you hit a deer with your vehicle and its not dead but just laying their all mangled are you allowed to euthanize it?
No. Contact local PD or your GW. That deer belongs to the state of Texas. They can release the deer to you once it is dead though if they chose to.
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raidernarizona said:

Agnzona said:

What if you hit a deer with your vehicle and its not dead but just laying their all mangled are you allowed to euthanize it?
No. Contact local PD or your GW. That deer belongs to the state of Texas. They can release the deer to you once it is dead though if they chose to.
You are absolutely right, but **** that. It's a personal decision, I get that. But I'm euthanizing it. I'm not waiting for local PD or GW to finish his coffee and doughnuts while I wait around with my thumb up my ass. Where I drive in the morning, I can actually euthanize it, and then stop by the gas station where they all hang out and tell them...not that I would...not after seeing this story. LOL. I watched a girl hit a deer on the way to work one morning and nearly put her car in the ditch. It took f-ing 15 minutes for the local PD to finally show up. All the while there was a doe frantically trying to escape with two broken legs...she basically circled in the street sliding on her own blood. I did not have my pistol that day, but I would have shot her. I will never again question a decision like that. Fines and Law be damned. It was terrible.
raidernarizona
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So what time are they saying he actually arrowed the buck? Google says sunset was 7:03 PM that day in Pilot Point.

AC & powerbelly..you guys are funny! Tell me you've never once broken the law? I thought Mom's explanation actually put things into perspective. But I don't know if we're talking an 8 pm shot or full darkness.
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