Gentlemen I need to ship a black powder gun from NM to NC. Any words of advice would be much appreciated.

Not a firearm. Ship as you would anything else.

My understanding is if has a removable breach plug, it's considered a firearm and must be transferred via FFL. If it doesn't have a removable breach plug and can't be modified to a regular firearm, ship away. I had a Thompson Center Thunderhawk shipped from Texas up to Ohio by my brother. I checked with a FFL first and they stated it wasn't considered a firearm, as CS78 stated. Eyeguy or someone else can confirm.

OhAggie98 said:

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My understanding is if has a removable breach plug, it's considered a firearm and must be transferred via FFL. If it doesn't have a removable breach plug and can't be modified to a regular firearm, ship away. I had a Thompson Center Thunderhawk shipped from Texas up to Ohio by my brother. I checked with a FFL first and they stated it wasn't considered a firearm, as CS78 stated. Eyeguy or someone else can confirm.

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Who did you use for shipping?

CS78 said:

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Not a firearm. Ship as you would anything else.

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This^

I don't recall. I think it was UPS, but not sure.

It is completely legal to ship them, and I have zero indication that a removable breech plug has any impact. I have been on the receiving end of a Knight muzzleloader and shipped an 1848 musket. Both were sent via US postal service.

That said, I would advise that you not to mention the contents to the person at the counter. My dad was too chatty when he tried to ship the first time--the USPS guy was emphatic that it was illegal and almost started a ****storm. After leaving and being reassured that it was legal, he sent the package with my much less talkative mother, and she had no problems.

Of course it's legal. You can order new ones and have them delivered straight to your house. It's not considered a firearm.

Horse with No Name said:

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It is completely legal to ship them, and I have zero indication that a removable breech plug has any impact. I have been on the receiving end of a Knight muzzleloader and shipped an 1848 musket. Both were sent via US postal service.

That said, I would advise that you not to mention the contents to the person at the counter. My dad was too chatty when he tried to ship the first time--the USPS guy was emphatic that it was illegal and almost started a ****storm. After leaving and being reassured that it was legal, he sent the package with my much less talkative mother, and she had no problems.

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This is why it may not matter that it is legal. I don't have time to debate some USPS official. It isn't a firearm? Of course it isn't - to you. But to the dude at the counter..

These conversations were not what I was interested in and I spoke with a local FFL who I had done business with. He said he has had all sorts of issues with UPS and sometimes with USPS. So he boxes stuff up and says something it isn't, long range tool or some such, and off it goes.

As a follow up here were my two best options:

1. Ship to self care of friend in NC through USPS

2. I have an extremely long gun. Conventional cases do not fit this thing. But I went and got a ski hard case for $149 and boom, I plan to check it on a plane anyhow. Problem solved with a ski case

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